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  • Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #30 on: February 28, 2017, 10:04:30 AM »
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  • Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #31 on: March 21, 2017, 10:53:03 PM »
    Interesting!
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  • Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #32 on: April 07, 2017, 12:33:28 PM »
    Hi guys, can somebody enlighten me a little bit.
    Imagine if we dont know this bazi is jackie chan's bazi and we dont know chan story.

    From the mathematic discussion is using xu hour to fit the story although i read somewhere he is born in evening.
    Does xu hour really fit this bazi as very rich person??

    This case is different with li ka shing case which very believe in bazi, because one of his bazi adviser saying he will be the richest in hk.

    But for chan case he definitely not believe in astrology.
    Well.. To deduce this mindset in a simple way i think quite easy.
    Of course this is only part of my imagination of possibilities.

    If someone not believe in this thing, maybe in the past he asks many master regarding his bazi, for example he will die young because many kw or this is some ordinary class bazi. But in the end he become very rich and not die young. So this is what creates his mindset that he not believe in astrology.
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  • Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #33 on: April 07, 2017, 01:12:49 PM »
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  • Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #34 on: April 07, 2017, 02:02:58 PM »
    Hi guys, can somebody enlighten me a little bit.
    Imagine if we dont know this bazi is jackie chan's bazi and we dont know chan story.

    From the mathematic discussion is using xu hour to fit the story although i read somewhere he is born in evening.
    Does xu hour really fit this bazi as very rich person??
    The question is: If we don't know this is Jacky Chan, what the reading will be?
    Answer:
    The configuration tells whether someone is doing useful work in life or just an error life.

    Sorry friends.. My early post discuss this Jacky Chen BaZi is still too shallow. The correct method to identify its pattern is from the configuration of self-combining pillar in all 4 pillars, and obtain season strength is this BaZi key. This telling about how big is the work.

    So, when you can read, you don't predict. You see the work is big then you straightly say it is the BaZi of big figure, without knowing if this is Jacky Chen.

    He can become the Jacky Chen is by his own effort.
    Luck & BaZi only support his choise. To give the destiny for his way up.
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  • Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #35 on: April 07, 2017, 02:10:32 PM »
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    @guhai
    Believe or not, Must happen will happen. So not relevant.
    If Kong Wang fail, its mean not perfect in ba zi theory.
    If you have potency to be very rich, i will pretend to be tell you can very rich,
    if i wrong, you will forgive me, if i right, in future its pay back time, its marketing fortune teller scheme.
    But always remember our Ancestor never claim all theory in Ba zi, zwds, other CM its perfect,they call its Art of Prediction  :)
    When you only understand how to ride a motorcycle, and now you handle an airplane = That is you in condition to predict how to make an airplane running.

    When you study & have pilot licence, you understand the plane work. At that time you cannot be called as predict to run an airplane anymore.

    BaZi is not the art of prediction. Only one cannot read said that.


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    « Reply #36 on: April 07, 2017, 02:24:29 PM »
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  • Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #37 on: April 07, 2017, 04:37:05 PM »
    Dear han & bokeksiansu

    Thanks for your enlightenment. Do you mind if i elaborate a little bit further?

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    Hmm can we do a little research fellow Friends?
    To search evidence that anyone who born in the same date with Jackie but hour HS is not Fire, DM should be die young at previous LP Geng-Wu (1973-1983) or at 19-29 yr. Especially die/attacked by cannot be cure sickness at 1980 & 1981 all Metal year.

    How about the research progress?
    Since chan must use xu hour to fit big work story
    But he not have hs fire. With 3 kw how is the impact?

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    He can become the Jacky Chen is by his own effort.
    Luck & BaZi only support his choise. To give the destiny for his way up
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    This is a very risky chart, fellow Fivearts! 

    I agree with the bold one, but since this is a very risky chart. I think the probability of chan good luck life among 200-30000 baby who born in same minute n hour is very small right?

    Many of the baby is failed in the middle of the way too or die young because kw.
    If so, then can this bazi suitable with big achievement sample?

    To get big achievement at least need the smooth road. But since this is a very risky chart, how can this suit chan story?

    Ah i am sorry, my skill in bazi is naive and below the elementary, please dont laugh master2 in here.



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    « Reply #38 on: April 07, 2017, 04:50:58 PM »
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  • Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #39 on: April 07, 2017, 05:21:21 PM »
    @guhai haha I'm sorry.. Like I said, my early post in this topic is still too shallow. The way to read it is not like that. It is not a risky chart.

    Just a simple explanation:
    Xu entombed all Fire. Capability is big. Have work.
    It is Chen who is DM root & obtain season who Clash Xu open. Chen capability or acomplishment is also big.

    But when you plus self-combine pillar in all 4 palace pillar, there you go! Everybody around him are busy doing work image. You can say that when you encounter and related to this owner of BaZi, you will cannot just sit still, somehow you must also busy to work. Because when you are related to the owner of BaZi, you become part of his BaZi inside elements. And all elements inside his BaZi are busy to self-combine. A very busy life image.

    Sorry.. only a brief explanation.. Masters in Forum already complain me for not too much exposure MangPai for free. Aah what can I do.. Looks like I need to take a break for a while.
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  • Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #40 on: April 07, 2017, 06:54:37 PM »
    My turn , fr classical bazi perspective...

    命主姓名:Jacky Chan。
    出生公历:1954年4月7日? 时?分 ,星期三。
    出生农历:甲午年 三月 初五日 ? 时。

        伤    官    日元   财    
    乾造  甲    戊    癸    ? (日空午、未)
        午(KW)    辰    巳    ? 

    大运   己巳  庚午KW  辛未KW       壬申    癸酉   甲戌   乙亥   丙子  
    岁数     10     20            30          40      50    60     70      80    
    年份    1963  1973       1983      1993  2003  2013  2023  2033  

    Actually, i dunno how Jacky's bazi gets 4 KW. What i get is just 1KW at YP Wu. Noticed, after he sailed thru his KW LPs, his career just rocketed . Since he is such a superstar, i really doubt his HP is KW. Anyway, with so many different types of Gui Ren (天乙 太极), how bad can this chart be? If really 4 KW maybe 6' underground liao... ?Interestingly 1 yr during his 辛未KW LP, he nearly died.  KW is like tayar puncit, no chi to jalan properly... but this guy can jump, can sommersault, can flying kick, hv broken  every bone in his body yet very much alive & kicking ass... And he is no monk, how can whole life Kong Kong? :P  Food for tot?...





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  • Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #41 on: April 07, 2017, 08:07:01 PM »
    OMG,  today is Jackie Chan's birthday!  Happy Birthday,  hero! 

    « Last Edit: April 07, 2017, 08:11:49 PM by Kikilala »
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  • Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #42 on: April 07, 2017, 08:27:39 PM »
    Well.. I almost reach the conclusion of bazi dogma.
    But it need sample someone like chan or richard li.
    Question mark is in his hour, i read everywhere is 09.45 am.
    Then many people change it into xu hour or other hour to suit their analyze.
    My question will be how is the accuracy of the hour.
    Because people can easily change bad chart into good chart using hour only, this will depend on the achievement of the person after we know who they are.

    A good picture posting by kikilala,
    This is some connection of his character with his viewpoint that he doesnt believe astrology thing.

    Still in my mind this strong character from him related with this astrology thing.
    Chan scale definitely different with andy lau bazi. Andy lau bazi fits this big performance very well.
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    Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #43 on: April 07, 2017, 10:32:35 PM »
    What if the Jackie chan birthday is not reported accurately in wiki? Or any other sources? Just saying.....

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  • Re: Jacky Chan - 4 Kong Wang - A very strange life journey
    « Reply #44 on: April 08, 2017, 01:12:30 AM »
    What if the Jackie chan birthday is not reported accurately in wiki? Or any other sources? Just saying.....
    Yes its possible. So better for research, use real case from person and you already know about his or her background than use public figure in internet.

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