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  • List of people (exact bazi opposite destiny)
    « on: May 10, 2017, 07:35:11 PM »
    Feel free to add the list  8)

    List 1.

    Warren buffet
    http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Buffett,_Warren_E.

    Paul poupard, warren buffet twin.
    http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Poupard,_Paul

    With rodden rating aa.
    Dunno need adjustment or not.

    One is the second richest person.
    Another one is a cardinal.

    Total opposite but still have some similarity like philantrophy character and enjoy old age.

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  • Re: List of people (exact bazi opposite destiny)
    « Reply #1 on: May 10, 2017, 07:47:53 PM »
    List 2.

    Donald trump. Successful business man + president
    http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Trump,_Donald

    Timothy. Trump twin. Death at young age because tumor.
    http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Getty,_Timothy

    Fried howard. Fine art artist.
    http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Fried,_Howard

    Rodden rating : aa.
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  • Re: List of people (exact bazi opposite destiny)
    « Reply #2 on: May 10, 2017, 07:50:54 PM »
    http://www.wofs.com/index.php/forum/10-four-pillars/7971-same-chart-different-destiny

    I think many bazi enthusiasts who read Chinese know of this story,which happened in olden China.
    These 2 persons had identical bazi charts,and were born near each other.But their destinies were very different.One became a high government official,the other was a blacksmith throughout his life.
    This bazi analyst chanced upon this phenomenon,and went to great lengths to find out the truth about these two persons' birth circumstances.He felt that this was something very important in the world of bazi-analysis.First,he ascertained very carefully that their birth data were absolutely accurate and correct.He personally "interviewed" their parents at their homes.Next,he took great trouble to find out the circumstances of their birth,asking even very elderly neighbours.
    What he noted was that in both charts,water was desperately needed(water was the "yong shen"(critical element)in the two charts).Water was almost non-existent in both charts.
    When that government official was born,his mother had given birth to him aboard a boat moored along the bank of a river.The blacksmith was born at the blacksmith's shop,with blazing fire close by.
    So,although the official lacked water(which he needed)in his chart,he was born very close to real,physical water(on the river).The blacksmith came to this earth in an environment that was unfavourable to him(surrounded by fire in the blacksmith's shop).
    Oddly,though their destinies were quite different,both married around the same time........
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  • Re: List of people (exact bazi opposite destiny)
    « Reply #3 on: May 10, 2017, 07:58:36 PM »
    List 4.

    Bill gates. World richest
    http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Gates,_Bill

    Luc vercryusse. Dancer.
    http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Vercruysse,_Luc

    Many are using hai hour for gates. One of my friend here using xu hour.
    Luc using xu hour. So the arguments of xu hour can't be used.
    Only hai hour.

    I personally look forward appear another person with hai hour.  :)

    *credit: this discovery from master jlim.
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  • Re: List of people (exact bazi opposite destiny)
    « Reply #4 on: May 11, 2017, 12:04:42 PM »
    List 5

    Dalai lama xiv. Tibetan monk.
    http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Dalai_Lama_XIV

    Candy barr. American exotic dancer  ???
    http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Barr,_Candy
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  • Re: List of people (exact bazi opposite destiny)
    « Reply #5 on: May 11, 2017, 12:29:45 PM »
    Dalai lama xiv. Tibetan monk.
    http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Dalai_Lama_XIV
    This one is rated C. 

    Candy barr. American exotic dancer  ???
    http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Barr,_Candy
    This one is rated AA (highest rating).

    Please look at "Source notes" in the Dalai Lama info in astro-databank. It's a one-page long info revealing other possible birth hours, even other dates too. 

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  • Re: List of people (exact bazi opposite destiny)
    « Reply #6 on: May 11, 2017, 12:41:00 PM »
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    « Reply #7 on: May 11, 2017, 12:52:27 PM »
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  • Re: List of people (exact bazi opposite destiny)
    « Reply #8 on: May 12, 2017, 10:23:47 AM »
    I do find 3 people with exact bazi, these 3 future are all same, the athlete.
    Bazi accuracy is incredible.

    I am more interest in exact bazi, opposite destiny sample. The minority.
    From 5 billion human population everything is possible.
    Lucky this is internet era, convenient to research.
    How these minority do fascinating me a lot.

    I try to narrow all available option that can made difference in destiny.
    If i forget unseen factor like karma or god help, i believe this but hard to prove.
    I try to think deeper, it is parents influence since kid and human character them self.
    However there are quite many orphan but be a worthy person.
    Seems like the character is the root.

    In the past i had read enough many successful individual biography from history.
    All of them have same key. "Character".
    I always list character as the most important part.
    My fav is abraham lincoln. To this person, all kind of problem can't stop him.

    "Cultivation". "fighter spirit". "Endurance". "Positive mindset". "Smart". "Dicipline". "Human choice". "Will power"

    All of these are part of "character".
    But this is only my opinion, a beginner discovery.

    Looking at warren buffet is top 3 richest person in the world, but his twin paul poupard is a cardinal. Total opposite.
    Although their destiny quite different but they do share some similarity.

    Very interesting, everything is possible.










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  • Re: List of people (exact bazi opposite destiny)
    « Reply #10 on: October 27, 2017, 11:41:25 AM »
    Source from one of famous bazi master in Indonesia : https://hongsui.net/2016/03/28/kehidupan-berbeda-dari-dua-data-lahir-sama-persis-台港同生辰八字兩個命/

    Christine Hung, seorang praktisi Hasta Aksara memaparkan sebuah kasus, dua orang dengan tanggal lahir sama persis, Mr. T lahir dan hidup di Taiwan dan Mr.H yang lahir dan hidup di Hongkong. Mereka lahir pada Tahun, Bulan, Hari dan Jam yang sama persis, tetapi memiliki keadaan kehidupan yang berbeda, hanya sama dalam beberapa hal saja. Kenapa ?

    Keakuratan Hasta Aksara sudah tidak perlu diragukan, ia dapat memperlihatkan naik-turunnya grafik keberuntungan (kehidupan), sifat dasar seseorang, jenis pekerjaan, keadaan perkawinan serta keadaan umum anggota keluarganya, termasuk orang tua dan anak-anaknya dengan baik. Hal itu membuat Hasta Aksara dapat dipercaya sebagai pemandu untuk menyusun rencana masa depan, agar pemiliknya bisa memperoleh hasil yang maksimal.

    Namun demikian, segala keadaan yang berada di sekeliling seseorang sejak kecil, akan turut membentuk karakter, cara berfikir, gaya komunikasi dan cara mengambil keputusannya. Dari yang paling awal berupa bimbingan dari orang tua, latar belakang keluarga, keadaan hidup lingkungan setempat, adat istiadat kelompok masyarat, teman-teman sepermainan, pendidikan di sekolah, pendidikan agama, lingkungan kerja, lingkungan pergaulan dan lainnya, semuanya akan memberikan pengaruh signifikan, memberi rona dan warna dalam kehidupan kita selanjutnya, termasuk menentukan arah perkembangkan hidup ke depan. Itulah sebabnya tidak ada seorangpun di dunia ini yang memiliki keadaan hidup yang persis sama, sekalipun bersaudara kembar identik.

    Apa yang muncul dalam kehidupan kita, semuanya merupakan peluang dan kesempatan, bilamana kita berhasil mengambil kesempatan yang mendekat, maka kesempatan itu akan menjadi miliki kita, jika tidak mengambilnya, kesempatan itu akan melenggang pergi dari samping kita begitu saja. Untuk itu, kita harus menunggu kehadiran kesempatan yang berikutnya. Ingat! kesempatan yang sama tidak akan hadir untuk ke dua kalinya, karena itu kita harus bisa memanfaatkannya dengan baik.

    Mari kita lihat tanggal lahir Mr. T dan H, keduanya lahir pada tanggal 24 Juni 1966 jam Naga, Hasta aksaranya seperti di atas.

    Tempo kehidupan di Hongkong sangat cepat, rata-rata rakyat jelata hidup di bawah tekanan tinggi. Hal ini sangat berbeda dengan kehidupan desa di Taiwan tengah, jauh lebih ramah, bersahabat dan menyenangkan. Tekanan hidup secara otomatis akan mendegradasi kesehatan seorang, baik fisik maupun mentalitasnya, membuat orang menjadi lebih acuh dan mengalami robotisasi kepribadian yang hanya tau target dan kerja. Keadaan itulah yang membedakan antara Mr. T dan Mr. H, perhatian terhadap orang tua, tekanan hdiup orang tuanya sendiri, ditambah lagi Mr. H memiliki 9 bersaudara, jika ia berada pada urutan mendekati terakhir, maka kini (2016) orang tuanya sudah tidak ada adalah suatu hal yang wajar. Lain halnya dengan Mr. T yang hanya 3 bersaudara dan satu-satunya anak laki2, dimana saat ini ke dua orang tuanya masih hidup sehat, itu juga sangat wajar.

    Mengenai pernikahan, kita harus melihat sektor keluarga di rumaus dasar Hasta Aksara, yaitu Macan. Pada sistem terdapat dua Kuda yang mengikat (interaksi Banhe dengan) Macan, ke duanya adalah Kuda Api dan Kuda Kayu. Hal ini berindikasi terdapat dua orang wanita yang dekat dengan diri mereka. Bintang istri berada di pilar Jam, pertanda perkawinan mereka akan terjadi relatif tua. Namun begitu, pilar tahun juga terdapat sebuah Api besar, yang mana memiliki akar yang sama dengan bintang istri Tanah besar, itu berarti perkawinan juga bisa terjadi pada usia yang relatif masih muda.

    Kembali kepada takanan hidup, kemasyarakatan dan keadaan keluarga. Sebenarnya pada periode hidup Api kecil (sama dengan Kuda), teman wanita sudah muncul di sekitar dan siap mengajaknya untuk membentuk keluarga. Mr. H yang hidup di Hongkong dengan tempo hidup tinggi dan kebutuhan hidup yang lebih besar belum berani menambah beban untuk berkeluarga. Lain halnya dengan Mr. T, sebagai anak laki-laki satu-satunya yang bertanggung jawab meneruskan marga leluhur, sekalipun ia belum siap benar, orang tuanya juga akan mempersiapkan perkawinannya. Itulah sebabnya ia menikah pada tahun Monyet Air 1992. Mr. H baru menikah pada Naga Logam 2000, ketika periode hidup telah bergeser ke Tanah besar yang memunculkan bintang istrinya. Waktu pernikahan mereka berbeda cukup jauh.

    Dalam Hasta Aksara mereka tidak terdapat informasi tentang anak (tidak ada logam), bintang anak hanya muncul pada periode hidup Ayam api. Dengan kata lain, hanya Mr. T yang menikah pada periode tersebut dan bisa memperoleh anak, sedangkan Mr. H yang pelaksanaan pernikahannya telah bergeser dari periode hidup Ayam akan sulit memperoleh anak. Kenyataannya adalah Mr. T telah memiliki 3 orang anak, sedangkan Mr. H hingga saat ini (2016) masih bgelum memperoleh seorang anak pun, informasi ini sangat jelas.

    Selain itu, hal-hal lain yang terjadi pada mereka bisa dikatakan hampir sama. Kayu menghidupkan Api pada pilar Kuda Kayu di bulan, memberi informasi tentang fashion. Kenyataannya, keduanya berbisnis dalam bidang fashion dan juga melibatkan istrinya. Bedanya adalah: Mr. T hidup di lingkungan Taiwan yang konservatif (masih mengagungkan laki-laki), bisnisnya dipegang ia sendiri, istri hanya membantu. Sedangkan Mr. H yang hidup di bekas kolonia Inggris dengan ratunya sebagai kepala pemerintahan, bisnis mereka dipegang oleh istri dan ia membantunya.

    Saat periode hidup mereka menunculkan Anjing Tanah yang berhubungan dengan sinyal properti, ke duanya memperoleh keuntungan dari nilai kenaikan property. Mr. H untung lebih besar karena kenaikan property di Hongkong terjadi gila-gilaan, sedangkan keuntungan Mr. T lebih sedikit sesuai dengan kenaikan property di Negaranya.

    Dari sini jelas, bahwa prediksi Hasta Aksara perlu dilakukan empat mata sebagaimana sedang berobat ke dokter, karena perlu mengkonfirmasi beberpa hal yang telah pernah terjadi sebelumnya, dengan demikian prediksi masa depan baru memiliki jaminan. Itulah sebabnya kenapa Xiangyi selalu menekankan kehadiran langsung si penanya saat analisa Hasta Aksara berlangsung.

    台港同生辰八字兩個命

    祿命法,可以精準地解剝出,一個人的人生運勢起伏,個人性格,包括工作類象,婚姻機緣和狀況,六親的大概情況等等,還有很多很多的訊息,都可以從那八個字裡,一一的挖出來。八字雖然只是預測學的一種,但是準確可靠,足於給人們用來做為安排個人人生計畫的藍圖。就是因為八字是祿命預測學,所以提供的只是一種訊息和事象,個人人生的發展,必須配合出身背景,其中包括父母家庭狀況,居住環境,當地民生(族群風俗)等;還有教育,朋友,倫理宗教等的影響,進入中學後、慢慢形成的個人獨有思維,成為其後待人處事的作風;還有,大學時選擇的科系,出社會後處身環境狀況與及所做出的判決,那時所面對的,都是機緣和自己的選擇,自己所做出的每一個決定,足於影響終身,其中包括婚姻及工作,甚至健康等等都影響良深。

    由於上面種種的因素,所以祥瑜常說:「世界上沒有絕對一樣的兩個人。」這種情形,甚至同卵雙生的兄弟或姊妹,都不會完全一樣,他們各有各的人生,各有各的福分。有些事情有時會有略同,但是大多數都不會一模一樣的。針對雙生的問題,八字上另有一種辦法,可以精準區別雙生兄弟或姊妹,各人不同的運成及人生發展,包括事業的象都可以清楚辨認。下面是Christine Hung在八字會天機面頁中提供的一份資料:兩位先生、Mr.H及Mr.T,兩個的八字完全相同,Mr.H 出生於香港,Mr.T出生於台灣中部。這相同八字的兩個人,他們的人生完全不一樣,為什麼?讓我們來借題分析一下。

    有單獨去過香港的朋友都知道,如果你不懂香港方言(廣東話),他們一定會給你翻白眼,連想問路都非常困難(現在已改善很多,因為中國遊客多了,不配合講普通話就是笨蛋);若是你一到台灣,情形就不一樣了。那兒增加了很多人情味,這就是港台兩地不同的地方。由於兩地的環境,生活質素不同,包括生活緊張度及紓解生活壓力的程度不一樣,導致父母的存亡,婚姻的快慢和後代的情形都不會一樣。其他的如性格、學歷、工作類象、緣分等與象有關的事,大體上相差都不會太遠。至於運程的起落,那當然是絕對一樣的。

    此命日主甲木,連同地支的寅木,歸根於辰土之中,運喜行水火,忌金地。八字第一個干支食神傷官,雖然環境不太有利,但是生性聰明,有利讀書,讀完高中後,運限進入第二柱的比肩剋財,是需要找錢,所以棄學,沒有再繼續了。就是因為這樣,兩個人的學歷,都是高中程度而已。由於Mr.T在台中,生活比較傳統,生活壓力也沒有那麼大,所以能在適婚年齡結婚生子。大運走丁,那個「丁」可以代表他們的才能,也代表從家庭宮脫出天干的一點心意,丁的祿星午中,帶著財星老婆的訊息,想娶老婆,是一種結婚的機緣。1992年壬申,申沖動家庭宮寅,壬丁一合,那就是結婚的流年應期。

    那時他們的大運丁酉是金地,運程肯定不好,經濟條件還差著。生活在緊張都市、香港的Mr.H,自然不敢增加負擔,白白放棄了那個可以結婚的好機緣。而生活在傳統社會裡、台中的Mr.T,情形就不一樣了。男大當婚、女大當嫁,何況又是家中唯一可以傳宗接代的男兒,經濟再怎麼不好,父母也會為他準備結婚的一切,所以很自然就在那一年結婚了。再回到八字,甲寅甲午的排列,午寅合,指明甲午的午就是情人,丙午又是另一個情人。丙午在前,甲午在後,甲代表自己,所以甲午才是自己的老婆,而丙午的存在,即是他們結婚之前另一個情人,必須與丙午的情人分開後,才能與自己的老婆結婚。Mr.H的婚姻在1992年錯過了,兩年後1994甲戌年雙午入戌,辰沖酉穿,家庭宮有點壞,自此忙於事業,淡忘了結婚的事。直到2000年庚辰,大運脫離金地,進入戌地被是柱的辰沖開,釋放出關在戌中的午,到這時才結婚。本命原局沒有子女星,只有酉運時官星紮了根,所以在丁酉運結婚的Mr.T,可以得到三個子女,而遲到戊戌運才結婚的Mr.H,到目前(2016)老婆還沒生出一男半女。

    八字命局還有一個象,甲木生火為服裝。兩個人做的行業,剛好都是是衣服類,而且都是夫妻倆一起做生意。差別的是,生活在傳統社會中的Mr.T,尤其是受日本影響極深的台灣,能發揮大男人主義角色,生意是他主導的。而生活在深受英國影響的香港之Mr.H,生意反而是由老婆來主導了。當他們大運走進戊戌時,八字出現了土木工程的組合,所以都可以得到物業建築方面的利益。Mr.H夫妻聯名投資物業升值許多,Mr.T沒有這一方面的紀錄,但是若有投資,雖然沒有香港物值提升那麼高,但也可以得到升值的利益。台灣的房價,最高喊到五百萬已讓人驚訝。但在香港,每坪千萬,早已不是什麼新鮮新聞了。就是在我們印尼,近5年來房屋價的猛飛升值,也已有點令人吃不消了。

    環境、民情、生活壓力等等,對一個人健康有所影響,是眾所周知的事情,很自然地,也能影響及個人壽命的長短。Mr.H的父母生了九個兒女,加上在香港生活壓力及家庭的重擔,很自然會讓他們忽略對自身健康的保養。如果Mr.H在兄弟姊妹中排行老么或接近尾數,此時父母已經不在,也是合情合理的事;Mr.T的情形就不一樣了,台中的生活比起香港來,可就溫馨樸素多了,何況還是離都市偏遠的地方。從八字可以看到,他們的出生環境雖然房屋密度很大,但還可以看到很多樹木和水源,好像是出生在離市集不遠、比較偏僻近水的地方。Mr.T只有姐弟三人,所以至今父母尚在也並不奇怪。

    祥瑜批命時,一定要與問命者面對面,因為祥瑜需要當場求證以整頓思路。與求醫一樣,醫生必定為你量血壓、量溫度、測心跳,然後還要問你病情的發展及目前感受等。八字只有八個字,需要很清晰的思路,所以若在思考中出現任何疑點,可以當面求證,再重新思考。若是你隱瞞實情,以考問的方式來問命,那肯定有些地方不會準確,因為你已經誤導了祥瑜的思路。如果是這樣,則在運程方面還可以準確,但是人生過程情節方面,是一定不會準的。就像幾天前,一個認識不是很久的朋友問及兒子的命,其妻星在年柱,是早婚之象。但是全盤劫比,容易錯過姻緣,遇到這樣的事,祥瑜必須發問求證。但問了幾次是否已經結婚?沒有回應,還一定要祥瑜根據命理回答。照常,如果已婚又何必多此一問?所以祥瑜不耐煩地說,應該還沒未婚!可人家已有三個孩子了。沒想到對方誤認祥瑜為神,不明白命裡需要推算,不像物理數學般絕對的,被考倒了。這樣再看下去就沒有意思了,祥瑜馬上收攤,叫他先弄清楚生辰,下次再說好了。

    人生百態,歷變不息,問命就像看醫生,必須誠懇回饋才能幫你找出命中真正有用的元素,那才有用,否則何必多此一舉?免看也罷!
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