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  • Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « on: November 03, 2016, 02:59:34 PM »
    Is anyone interested in American politics?

    These are their charts based on astro.com:

    Hillary Clinton: 26 October 1947 8:02 am

                DM
    Bing     Wu      Geng     Ding
    Chen    Yin       Xu         Hai

    Currently undergoing Ding Si decade luck.

    Donald Trump: 14 June 1946 10:54 am

           DM
    Ji      Ji       Jia     Bing
    Si     Wei    Wu     Xu

    Currently undergoing Xin Chou decade luck.

    Feel free to adjust to solar time as u see fit,
    especially for Donald Trump whose hour
    is v close to the cusp.

    To get karma points, u need a basic understanding of
    the US presidential elections and the difference between
    popular vote & electoral college vote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016

    https://www.reference.com/government-politics/differences-between-popular-vote-vs-electoral-vote-electoral-college-e836b6714fcb49fd

    Here are the house rules:

    i) +1 karma given to correct guess of candidate who wins.

    ii) + 2 karma given to correct guess + astrological explanation.
    Any school of thought is acceptable.

    iii) + 3 karma given to accurate prediction of percentage win.

    Detailed explanation:

    A) Popular vote:

    1) Hillary wins 50.0% - 54.9%
    2) Hillary wins 55.0% - 59.9%
    3) Hillary wins 60.0% - 64.9%
    4) Hillary wins 65.0% - 69.9%
    5) Hillary wins 70.0% - 74.9%
    6) Hillary wins 75.0% - 79.9%
    7) Hillary wins 80% and above

    8 ) Trump wins 50.0% - 54.9%
    9) Trump wins 55.0% - 59.9%
    10) Trump wins 60.0% - 64.9%
    11) Trump wins 65.0% - 69.9%
    12) Trump wins 70.0% - 74.9%
    13) Trump wins 75.0% - 79.9%
    14) Trump wins 80% and above

    B) Electoral College vote:

    1) Hillary wins 50.0% - 54.9%
    2) Hillary wins 55.0% - 59.9%
    3) Hillary wins 60.0% - 64.9%
    4) Hillary wins 65.0% - 69.9%
    5) Hillary wins 70.0% - 74.9%
    6) Hillary wins 75.0% - 79.9%
    7) Hillary wins 80% and above

    8 ) Trump wins 50.0% - 54.9%
    9) Trump wins 55.0% - 59.9%
    10) Trump wins 60.0% - 64.9%
    11) Trump wins 65.0% - 69.9%
    12) Trump wins 70.0% - 74.9%
    13) Trump wins 75.0% - 79.9%
    14) Trump wins 80% and above

    Any school of divination
    like throwing of coin, hex, ice cream stick,
    dreams and visions, angelic / alien visitation,
    psychic phenomena, signs in the sky are acceptable.

    Just state A1 - 14. +3 karma given to correct guess.

    Then B1 - 14. Another +3 karma will be given.

    Remember that the candidate who wins the electoral college votes
    wins the entire election, even though he / she may lose out in the popular vote.
    So when u ask yr divination question,
    pls ask carefully.

    Pls don't just state yr guess. At least mention yr method briefly.
    Like yr departed aunt visited u in a dream and told u
    Hillary will win by 60% electoral etc.

    You may choose to participate in one or more of the above.
    As I'm only a lowly member here,
    I can only give u the karma points on a daily basis.

    Really not sure if anyone is interested in this game anyway.

    If you are interested, remember that election day is only 5 days away.
    CLOSING DATE IS TUESDAY 8TH NOVEMBER 2016.

    Let the predictions begin!  :D

    PS: I will also be participating in this quiz for fun.
    « Last Edit: December 28, 2016, 11:18:39 AM by Administrator »
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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #1 on: November 03, 2016, 06:56:25 PM »
    I'm always checking these type of events a day before they happen.
    I'm avoiding games lately, but if I get it right, the day before and it is interesting enough example, will post it.


    Farewell everyone. : )

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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #2 on: November 03, 2016, 07:28:46 PM »
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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #3 on: November 03, 2016, 07:33:15 PM »
    My guess is Trump win in popular vote A8 but  Hilary win electoral vote B1.

    Guess this year is the worst year for Americans as they have to choose the lesser evil btw the 2. Hilary is just a people pleaser promising this and that but delivering or not, hard to say.
    Trump is very entertaining but has the support of many middle-class white supporters who lost their manufacturing jobs. So I think it will be a close fight. Most cities with high population and highly educated female tend to vote Hilary while many blue collar and factory workers in lesser population states support Trump. I just read in the news today some will not vote for them but vote for another candidate.

    Surprisingly both of them are facing punishment. Hilary has Shen Yin Si ungrateful punishment this year and Trump has bullying punishment Xu Chou Wei. Both are facing tremendous stress as negative news of them are released.

    I prefer Hilary to win cos there be less financial market volatility. I reckon many in wall street will not vote for trump.

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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 07:39:49 PM »
    There are other candidates like

    Libertarian party Gary Johnson
    Green party Jill Stein

    [/quote]

    Can someone also verify
    if there's gonna be a third
    or fourth candidate?
    There might be a loophole in my quiz ...
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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 07:55:01 PM »
    Well, there are many more, but just 2 more had some chance...
    But I don't think they do now... Maybe if they were in the debates or something, but right now seems to be down to Trump or Hillary...


    Farewell everyone. : )

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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 08:34:28 PM »
    Without main parties support, the others candidates are just there to give voters a chance to vote for others.

    Well, there are many more, but just 2 more had some chance...
    But I don't think they do now... Maybe if they were in the debates or something, but right now seems to be down to Trump or Hillary...

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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 09:40:56 PM »
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    Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #8 on: November 03, 2016, 09:55:40 PM »
    It's better to check Their 12-Life Stage. You know the answer  ;D

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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #9 on: November 03, 2016, 10:12:52 PM »
    My 2 cents worth as a self-learning TBSS beginner....  :-X (Assuming the birth hour needs no adjustment)

    Using 后天卦八卦加则法, I drew this line for Trump:



    Calculations: (30 + 30 + 60 + 90 + 120 + 60) + (8  x 1000) - 3 - 96 - 96 = 8195

    English translation: "8195 Neither with academic qualifications nor military background, yet person would achieve a very high official post that is “1st grade” (ie; highest rank) and equivalent to “governor”."

    Verdict: I'm guessing Donald Trump is likely to become president. :-\
    By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #10 on: November 03, 2016, 10:46:11 PM »
    THANK U everyone for yr keen participation!
    I was thinking, what if I end up
    being the only person to reply
    to my own thread, and then
    make my own prediction,
    which won't come to pass anyway?

    Ok this impt post is in the event
    that there is a 3 corner fight,
    or horror of horror, 4 corner fight.

    A15) Hillary 45.0% ~ 49.9%
    A16) Hillary 40.0% ~ 44.9%
    A17) Hillary 35.0% ~ 39.9%
    A18) Hillary 30.0% ~ 34.9%
    A19) Hillary 25.0% ~ 29.9%
    A20) ~ A24) Same for Trump

    Same goes for B.
    If u think neither will win,
    state yr candidate and the percentage
    margin of victory.

    Ladies & gentlemen.
    I realize that the 5% range
    may be a bit too narrow.
    Out of 14 choices,
    yr chance of winning is only
    7.14%. Now even more choices.
    If u love a difficult challenge,
    by all means make the prediction.
    If u want to invent yr own range
    like 30 to 40 percent, by all means
    do so. Or if u want to stick to
    5% range but say 32 to 37%,
    go ahead. I want to encourage
    maximum participation
    and not scare u with too many
    technicalities like popular or electoral.
    If yr prediction is accurate enough,
    I will still give u the karma points.
    Most impt is listen to yr intuitive
    urges.
    Also some of u use natural
    powers of observation like knowledge
    of current affairs and American politics
    to make prediction.
    As astrology is the study of planets
    and planet earth is also a planet,
    yr observation is considered
    astrological too.
    Keep the answers coming
    and watch the news for
    any possible third candidate.

    May the force be with u! :)

    « Last Edit: November 03, 2016, 11:18:59 PM by existentialistalbert »
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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #11 on: November 03, 2016, 11:46:32 PM »
    Quote from: existentialistalbert
    These are their charts based on astro.com:

    Hillary Clinton: 26 October 1947 8:02 am

                DM
    Bing     Wu      Geng     Ding
    Chen    Yin       Xu         Hai

    Currently undergoing Ding Si decade luck.

    exist-albert! I went to astro.com and found at least 3 different birth times for Hillary.  are you referring to the same site? --->   http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Clinton,_Hillary... << So which one should we use? >>

    26 October 1947 at 08:02 (= 08:02 AM )
    26 October 1947 at 02:18 (= 02:18 AM )
    26 October 1947 at 20:00 (= 8:00 PM )

    there are probably some more birth times further down.  But thatt was too much info for me to readd...

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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #12 on: November 03, 2016, 11:56:13 PM »

    exist-albert! I went to astro.com and found at least 3 different birth times for Hillary.  are you referring to the same site? --->   http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Clinton,_Hillary... << So which one should we use? >>

    26 October 1947 at 08:02 (= 08:02 AM )
    26 October 1947 at 02:18 (= 02:18 AM )
    26 October 1947 at 20:00 (= 8:00 PM )

    there are probably some more birth times further down.  But thatt was too much info for me to readd...

    Different practitioners uses different birth hours for any given celebrity or famous person. They can quote tons of reasonings to back their choice of birth time (with or without time adjustment) as long as they are happy with what they're doing. Common for different practitioners to have different opinions. It would be really shocking for different people to have same opinion!

    No need to confuse and scream "Alamak!", just use the birth hour you think fits the person well. Other masters are entitled to their opinions, you too, we too, everyone too. ;D

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    @existentialistalbert : I don't care about politics, and don't know about what popular college, what electoral college, what institution, what congress... Just trying out TBSS for fun only. Even if got 3rd president-to-be, I'll just stick to my answer. Haha.. :P
    « Last Edit: November 04, 2016, 12:02:41 AM by ArtofFugue »
    By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #13 on: November 04, 2016, 12:02:36 AM »
    A. Popular vote: hillary wins 80% (7)
    B.Electoral vote: B3

    Just pure guess using liu yao :D

    How i derive it? I see the first upper trigram and compare it with lower trigram, and find the numbers on trigram, then i make a proportion, like 4:7 (ken:li)

    But it's just a crazy way to see it :D

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  • Re: Guess Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump?
    « Reply #14 on: November 04, 2016, 01:18:17 AM »
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