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  • change of period ?
    « on: May 16, 2018, 02:20:08 AM »
    Hi,

    My apartment (and the entire building ) will undergo big renovations during 2 months this summer : new Windows, ceilings, asbestos removal... Me and my family will be relocated during this work. The building is period 6, will it change to period 8 ?

    Thanks for your answers.

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  • Re: change of period ?
    « Reply #1 on: May 16, 2018, 03:08:16 AM »
    In theory, yes.

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  • Re: change of period ?
    « Reply #2 on: May 16, 2018, 03:44:29 AM »
    Even if the roof isn't removed ?

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  • Re: change of period ?
    « Reply #3 on: May 16, 2018, 05:15:30 AM »
    Even if the roof isn't removed ?


    I've seen the idea it needs structural change in door and ceiling(or door and roof), but how much exactly I do not know as we never had house that was build in period 7 or below that had enough changes to qualify.

    However I would guess there are ways to see once its done, even without waiting few months for events. People when back should change direction of furniture, beds etc. as influences will be different, pets will stay around other parts of the house etc.
    Just a guess, but I will be surprised if period is changed and that doesn't happen.

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    Re: change of period ?
    « Reply #4 on: May 16, 2018, 11:28:20 AM »
    I guess no one really can testify that.(how? Is there a gadget to test? Is all unsustainable guess, what about a person luck and the annual flying star that may affect the testifying of the stars?)....unless you are talking about removing the whole houses and build from scratch....the rest(major renovation such as removing the roof are just not certifiable....

    But one point to note about passed period house.....u notice some of the rich men live in the same house from 50 to 60 years ago and they are still doing good after 2 to 3 cycles of periods.

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    « Reply #5 on: May 16, 2018, 04:25:30 PM »
    I guess no one really can testify that.(how? Is there a gadget to test? Is all unsustainable guess, what about a person luck and the annual flying star that may affect the testifying of the stars?)....unless you are talking about removing the whole houses and build from scratch....the rest(major renovation such as removing the roof are just not certifiable....

    But one point to note about passed period house.....u notice some of the rich men live in the same house from 50 to 60 years ago and they are still doing good after 2 to 3 cycles of periods.

    Takes around 3-4 periods for a good star to turn destructive. For example in 2023, star 2 will start to wake up. And it will be healthy in default situation until period 4, so we have 5x20 = 100 years where it will be helpful.

    Considering the same time Ais are working on cures for many illnesses and star 2 is usually related to illness, it could be good guess, that in health industry there may be advancements at that time, that make it less of a problem, at least for the 100 years coming after 2023.

    When it comes to creating events, flying star is usually very accurate. However it will still need time to observe. So few months after people are back in the house it should be possible to just see from the map in a more sure way, then what I posted. I do still think that would work as well and it can be done in a few days, won't have to wait.
    If we think about it as prediction = guess, then a lot of the five arts are based on guessing. However that doesn't mean it is always unsustainable.

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  • Re: change of period ?
    « Reply #6 on: May 16, 2018, 08:08:30 PM »
    Thanks for your answers,

    I'd prefer the chart to stay unchanged because my facing is S1 and in period 8 there are many areas with 5-2 combinations which would fall in my main door, living room... 2017 has been very hard and unlucky so I'm a little worried about these changes.


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    « Reply #7 on: May 16, 2018, 11:22:01 PM »
    Thanks for your answers,

    I'd prefer the chart to stay unchanged because my facing is S1 and in period 8 there are many areas with 5-2 combinations which would fall in my main door, living room... 2017 has been very hard and unlucky so I'm a little worried about these changes.

    I just noticed you didn't mention anything about front door. In what I have seen around, the idea is it can reset only if there is structural change to main door.

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  • Re: change of period ?
    « Reply #8 on: May 17, 2018, 02:44:22 AM »
    My unit's main door won't be modified but the building has different glass doors that will be removed and changed.

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    « Reply #9 on: May 17, 2018, 09:29:05 AM »
    I guess no one really can testify that.(how? Is there a gadget to test? Is all unsustainable guess, what about a person luck and the annual flying star that may affect the testifying of the stars?)....unless you are talking about removing the whole houses and build from scratch....the rest(major renovation such as removing the roof are just not certifiable....

    But one point to note about passed period house.....u notice some of the rich men live in the same house from 50 to 60 years ago and they are still doing good after 2 to 3 cycles of periods.

    Takes around 3-4 periods for a good star to turn destructive. For example in 2023, star 2 will start to wake up. And it will be healthy in default situation until period 4, so we have 5x20 = 100 years where it will be helpful.

    Considering the same time Ais are working on cures for many illnesses and star 2 is usually related to illness, it could be good guess, that in health industry there may be advancements at that time, that make it less of a problem, at least for the 100 years coming after 2023.

    When it comes to creating events, flying star is usually very accurate. However it will still need time to observe. So few months after people are back in the house it should be possible to just see from the map in a more sure way, then what I posted. I do still think that would work as well and it can be done in a few days, won't have to wait.
    If we think about it as prediction = guess, then a lot of the five arts are based on guessing. However that doesn't mean it is always unsustainable.

    Thanks for the details explainations. Good explainations with regards to the changes of periods base on a 100 years benchmark. Make sense.

    But pertaining to observations, sickness sometime dont just related to star 2, and (i added this point) and robbery/ theft not necessary related to star 7. And what other signs and events can allow one to conclude affirmatively  that the house natal stars is changed upon renovation with considerations of annual/monthly up to daily star changes and personal luck that might alter or deter the studies?

    It may not be appropriate to compare the changes of a house natal star and other five arts usage..as other five arts are used to study/guess of a person natal chart such as bazi with no changes or only times differences.   We see a lot of discussion about some famous/deceased people bazi with references(dob without timing) on the web where the best decipherer is one that make good analysis . But still it does not give a solid conclusion on whether the dob is correct or has the hour is correctly pinned. But of course for fivearts we respect that and it is widely accepted that there will some plus and minus in accuaracy.

    Whereas for changes of natal stars after renovations...how do one really testify it with consideration of the criterias stated above? And base on what can we conclude what renovations of which portion of the house change the star?

    Note that i myself is observing changes of annual and monthly flying star effect on my family by shifting beds and movable cupboards/work desks and even fans. That is just to share that i am convinced of how flying stars works.

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  • Re: change of period ?
    « Reply #10 on: May 17, 2018, 12:20:46 PM »
    Hi,

    My apartment (and the entire building ) will undergo big renovations during 2 months this summer : new Windows, ceilings, asbestos removal... Me and my family will be relocated during this work. The building is period 6, will it change to period 8 ?

    Thanks for your answers.

    In theory (course note from YCH) as long we expose the roof for 7 days and some reno at home will change the Period. You do not need to change the floor tiles. But you need to leave it vacant for 100 days. This is the theory for flying star.

    Anywway I am not a big fan of Flying star so never try before.... :)

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    « Reply #11 on: May 17, 2018, 01:42:51 PM »
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    « Reply #12 on: May 17, 2018, 02:02:21 PM »
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    « Reply #13 on: May 17, 2018, 05:46:58 PM »

    Whereas for changes of natal stars after renovations...how do one really testify it with consideration of the criterias stated above? And base on what can we conclude what renovations of which portion of the house change the star?

    In the way I'm familiar with, we create map of events based on stars interacting with forms in the house. Turning Stars into Trigrams and using their Images(8 Wing of Yi jing is best way to get very familiar with how Trigrams work in my view, then can always check WWG app for many images of the Trigrams if needed). Then using Yearly and Monthly stars as activating them.
    If we can't make it work with Trigrams we can try the 81 star combinations, some of them should work, some I really don't think will. But all this can be correlated and seen from the Trigrams as well.

    It can be very accurate. If events start to mismatch from the map, while they were accurate before, then period has changed. If they were not accurate to begin with then facing may be wrong - take front door. If all this doesn't work, then something in the theory how the system works is missing.



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    « Reply #14 on: May 17, 2018, 09:41:22 PM »

    Whereas for changes of natal stars after renovations...how do one really testify it with consideration of the criterias stated above? And base on what can we conclude what renovations of which portion of the house change the star?

    In the way I'm familiar with, we create map of events based on stars interacting with forms in the house. Turning Stars into Trigrams and using their Images(8 Wing of Yi jing is best way to get very familiar with how Trigrams work in my view, then can always check WWG app for many images of the Trigrams if needed). Then using Yearly and Monthly stars as activating them.
    If we can't make it work with Trigrams we can try the 81 star combinations, some of them should work, some I really don't think will. But all this can be correlated and seen from the Trigrams as well.

    It can be very accurate. If events start to mismatch from the map, while they were accurate before, then period has changed. If they were not accurate to begin with then facing may be wrong - take front door. If all this doesn't work, then something in the theory how the system works is missing.

    Now this is giving me a understanding how one can work it out!  Although i have yet to totally convince in it...but i can figure out what you said...perhap one day i can experience it to be convinced ..thank you for the discussion.

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