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  • is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « on: May 18, 2018, 08:14:50 PM »
    i hear someone on this forum, i remember it's master KevinChan said that Water Daymaster is not problem with root or without root, so if DM Water has strong DM without root it still Strong DM, not weak... is it true?


    what do you think of my chart that have excessive supporter and strong DM but without DM?


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    so if i don't have root my favourable element still Fire and Wood, or Metal and Water?


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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #1 on: May 18, 2018, 08:21:39 PM »
    DM is strong so I don't see a problem. Metal controlling Wood is nice dynamic in your chart, represents creativity and education https://talenthero.io/analysis/nikmat1255991602/
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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #2 on: May 18, 2018, 11:55:34 PM »
    @johnyqi thank you johny.... but many masters said if the chart doesn't have root (means, self element not appear on earthly branch or hhs) it means the DM is weak? is that really true?


    many masters said my DM is weak because there's no ROOT. but master 'Kevin Chan' said on the thread about Water Day Master is doesn't affected by root, it means if you have strong water by support or in season even don't have a root it still strong water DM.


    what do you think? do you have opinion about my DM is strong or weak? or opinion about root in general or root for water DM?



    thanks for your help johny, i hope GOD bless you always

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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #3 on: May 19, 2018, 12:01:52 AM »
    You have two roots in Rooster, additional Water and Metal on the stem, your DM is not weak.
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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #4 on: May 19, 2018, 12:07:35 AM »
    i hear someone on this forum, i remember it's master KevinChan said that Water Daymaster is not problem with root or without root, so if DM Water has strong DM without root it still Strong DM, not weak... is it true?


    what do you think of my chart that have excessive supporter and strong DM but without DM?


    hour day month year
    Bing Ren You Gui
    Wu Yin You You


    18 September 1993
    Male
    11:15 AM

    Longitude: 106

    GMT +7

    Jakarta, Indonesia



    so if i don't have root my favourable element still Fire and Wood, or Metal and Water?

     True enough whatever said by the master. What I have being taught, Bazi is not about the DM only. It is the whole chart. We need to take the whole chart elements and compare to each other.

    Like your case xin metal is very strong rooted. And it is controlling the rooted Fire. So we need to strengthen the fire to put a fight with strong metal. Ren and Gui not in play since it is not rooted. So your Yongshen is fire and it is coming soon I think! :)

    Anyway I am not specialise in this area so let other masters have their words here.

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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #5 on: May 19, 2018, 01:32:30 AM »
    @johnyqi oh my goodness, i think all masters believe about root or not rooted. and i think you're one of masters that believe whole chart interaction. and thank you you pinpoint that my chart is strong, so i'm not confused.


    so even i don't have water element on hidden stem and earthly branch, i'm still strong DM? sorry if i ask again like doubt person...


    @Xkfan yeah i have feeling since learning bazi, that fire is favourable to me.... and it will weaken my too excessive metal, right?


    but i still fear because fire next LP will burn my eating god which is wood element, because i know that eating god is about mental, social skills, communication, expressive, extrovert, creativity.


    i hope my fire next LP just burn my metal, not wood hahahaha

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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #6 on: May 19, 2018, 01:49:23 AM »
    @johnyqi oh my goodness, i think all masters believe about root or not rooted. and i think you're one of masters that believe whole chart interaction. and thank you you pinpoint that my chart is strong, so i'm not confused.


    so even i don't have water element on hidden stem and earthly branch, i'm still strong DM? sorry if i ask again like doubt person...


    @Xkfan yeah i have feeling since learning bazi, that fire is favourable to me.... and it will weaken my too excessive metal, right?


    but i still fear because fire next LP will burn my eating god which is wood element, because i know that eating god is about mental, social skills, communication, expressive, extrovert, creativity.


    i hope my fire next LP just burn my metal, not wood hahahaha

    One has to always look entire chart, and see what is dynamic. The strength of DM is not even that important, but I did develop a quite sophisticated algorithm to measure the strength of every DM, and as you can see in your case, it's solid in the middle https://talenthero.io/analysis/nikmat1255991602/
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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #7 on: May 19, 2018, 07:49:19 AM »
    How was last year for you? 2017.

    Good stable or problematic?
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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #8 on: May 19, 2018, 11:54:59 AM »
    Hi Nikmat, since you already heard so much from us ... mind to intro yourself> What are you doing. What is family background. education. JOb and etc.

    Thanks :)

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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #9 on: May 19, 2018, 01:10:39 PM »
    @j27945 problematic. Problematic since 2016-2018. I think it because metal on annual pillar 2016, 2017, and earth on 2018.

    @Xkfan okay. I'm right now work on my dad store, it is optical eyewear store.

    My education is high school.

    My mom and dad from sumatera and they go to jakarta for living and stay. My dad owned small business, and i super rarely talk about my emotion and life with him. I just close to my mother since young. But dad still good person, he is just person who not good at emotional talking to their children, but he is really smart when it comes to survive and making tons money.

    In near end of the month 2011, i have schizophrenia symptoms and my parents make appointment with psychiatrist, and i've got anti-psychotic drugs, on november 2012 i'm cured, all the schizophrenia symptoms is gone. And i'm happy since then and i've got many lessons from that event.

    Right now, i'm always depressed because my problem in the past and all the traumatic event. I know it's because my past sin that i commit and God want me to pay my karma, i guess.

    And i don't have any friends since 2011, rarely socializing, in 2014 and 2016 i met all my childhood friends and chat with them and drink eat with them.

    But my situation right now, my depression, my personality right now it makes me hard for socializing. I develop severe low self-esteem and i'm afraid socializing to people.

    And all thats event, i guess it is for paying my bad karma in the past. And i don't know when it finish.

    I have guts feeling that all my problem because earth LP since 14 y.o and finally 34 y.o i'm out earth LP. And i believe hard socializing because my metal destroy my eating god wood.

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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #10 on: May 19, 2018, 02:05:03 PM »
    @j27945 problematic. Problematic since 2016-2018. I think it because metal on annual pillar 2016, 2017, and earth on 2018.

    @Xkfan okay. I'm right now work on my dad store, it is optical eyewear store.

    My education is high school.

    My mom and dad from sumatera and they go to jakarta for living and stay. My dad owned small business, and i super rarely talk about my emotion and life with him. I just close to my mother since young. But dad still good person, he is just person who not good at emotional talking to their children, but he is really smart when it comes to survive and making tons money.

    In near end of the month 2011, i have schizophrenia symptoms and my parents make appointment with psychiatrist, and i've got anti-psychotic drugs, on november 2012 i'm cured, all the schizophrenia symptoms is gone. And i'm happy since then and i've got many lessons from that event.

    Right now, i'm always depressed because my problem in the past and all the traumatic event. I know it's because my past sin that i commit and God want me to pay my karma, i guess.

    And i don't have any friends since 2011, rarely socializing, in 2014 and 2016 i met all my childhood friends and chat with them and drink eat with them.

    But my situation right now, my depression, my personality right now it makes me hard for socializing. I develop severe low self-esteem and i'm afraid socializing to people.

    And all thats event, i guess it is for paying my bad karma in the past. And i don't know when it finish.

    I have guts feeling that all my problem because earth LP since 14 y.o and finally 34 y.o i'm out earth LP. And i believe hard socializing because my metal destroy my eating god wood.

    Thanks for sharing. I really appreciate that.

    Don' t worry about the past as the God will help those who help themselves. About your Bazi as I said your favourable element is fire, so it will come soon. By then do your best and dont waste time. Do more good deeds from time to time.

    Your bazi is a good bazi. Strong bazi. You can be somebody in the society. But dont be complacent. Work hard is a must.

    Cheers :)
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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #11 on: May 19, 2018, 02:59:06 PM »
    @Xkfan when i will enter fire ? 2022 or 2027?

    Thanks xkfan you give me hope

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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #12 on: May 19, 2018, 06:01:26 PM »
    Ren born in You month, You Year. Metal and Water are self-supporting and strong. You metal holds the position of 沐浴 in 12Life Stage.
    Ren is strong You is 沐浴, show's that you are a person who finds it hard to grow up. 

    When Ren becomes strong can become capricious.
    Meaning your mood could fluctuate greatly.

    Your chart is not bad just that you are not going through the right luck phase right now.
    戊午 is not a good luck phase for you fortunately good times will come slowly starting in 丁巳.

    A lot has to do with your own ego.
    戊午 makes you want to pursue goals that are impossible to obtain, and it is all because of how you want people to see you as.
    When you let that go maybe in a couple years and just get down to earth you will start getting the luck you want.

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    « Reply #13 on: May 19, 2018, 07:51:32 PM »
    @TheModernTaoist wow i'm shocking with your bazi reading skill and i think you have good psychic ability too...

    thank you very much tao, and what you said about my personality, bazi chart, and my situation right now is 100% true or maybe 99% hahaha


    okay i want make comment and couple of questions if you don't mind it...


    "When Ren becomes strong can become capricious.
    Meaning your mood could fluctuate greatly. "

    yes indeed, i'm bipolar person who can change mood automatically and i can't control it, i think it just my chemical works in my brain


    "fortunately good times will come slowly starting in 丁巳. "

    what do you mean it come slowly? why slowly? it because my real favourable element is wood and second fire, that's why it really slow to go to wood luck pillar? or i'm wrong?



    "戊午 makes you want to pursue goals that are impossible to obtain, and it is all because of how you want people to see you as."

    and this is important comment on your words, i shock that you know that my situation right now, or my mind right now always think about pursue goals that are impossible to obtain, and i think it start on/since 14 y.o and that thinking bigger and at constant level right now that i always thinking about dream that actually impossible to obrain.


    do you have a cure for thinking about dream that impossible to obtain? i really need, because i can control that... do you think it really disappeared whet i'm entering fire luck pillar, and my thinking about dream that hard to obtain all gone because i'm entering fire LP??



    i hope i find the light at the end of the tunnel when i'm entering fire luck pillar.....


    why i'm entering fire Luck pillar Ding Si on 2027?? why not Wu Fire? 5 years from now i will entering 5 years fire WU luck pillar? or not?


    thank you Tao, and sorry if i have many request or questions, because i really need help because depression and frustrated since 2016


    oh my god sorry, i'm forget to ask, why you think that my bazi chart is good just meet bad LP... why you think my Bazi Chart is good?
    « Last Edit: May 19, 2018, 07:58:52 PM by nikmat »

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  • Re: is it true Water Day Master without root is not problem?
    « Reply #14 on: May 20, 2018, 04:38:51 AM »
    Hi @nikmat,
    Continue to stress the point to yourself that you are depressed and frustrated will not do you any good. Very important for you to meditate everyday and calm yourself.
    You have to face reality and get down to earth and focus your mind on your bettering your self and state. Procrastinating will not get you anywhere.

    Knowing that your mood can fluctuate what can you do about that to stop yourself? Happiness and Depression are mental states that you can control.

    You don't need anyone to tell you to be positive you just got to be positive.

    Keep a positive outlook as much as you can meditate when you feel your mood fluctuating. This is the biggest cure and recommendation i can give to you.

    You can also carry a white jade with you wear as a necklace and have it touch your heart, best if is white jade Guan Yin, or Buddha.

    Nevertheless the pendant won't do you much good unless you set your mind to overcoming your depression. So first and foremost meditation.

    Also treat your mom better and take her out to dinner sometime make her feel good.
    Will do you much good luck wise to keep the female authority figures in your life happy.

    -Tao

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