[ASK] Very Dark Future?

[fongwee768]

Dear All Masters,

Born in Yogyakarta (Central Java) on 18th January 2012, at around 3:08 am, female.

Please correct me if I'm wrong regarding this chart. Please don't be scared to tell me if this chart is truly bad as honesty is the best policy:-). I'm very open to all inputs as I'm still learning myself.

To my opinion, the chart above is not a good chart.

Ming: Tian Ji is dark, and it has super dark Tai Yin and dark Tian Ma from accross, which make it worse.

Wealth: Tian Tong & Ju Men are super dark, and Tian Tong + Ju Men is a bad combination, meaning the person earns very little money and she spends it harshly (very easily). She doesn't have anything left / can't save money. The position of Di Jie accross makes it worse as it empties her money.

She has to work super hard to get money (You Bi & Zuo Fu) but still only get very little money or no money.

Spouse/Marriage: This person will marry at least twice in her life. Tai Yang is also dark, meaning a bad & controlling husband (maybe abusive too? Please reconfirm). They will later divorce (signed by Di Kong strengthened by Di Jie from Happiness House and Zou Fu from Career House).

But later her second husband is Tian Liang (which is much older than her but still controlling).

By the way, what's the effect of dark Tai Yin and Tian Ma here on spouse palace?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, 1st husband is Tai Yang & 2nd husband is Tian Liang, which is better than first husband?

Children: Very difficult to control kids (dark Wu Qu) and Wen Chang + Hua Ji. Eeasy to have abortion, with Tuo Luo, Tian Xing, and dark Po Jun from accross. Even if she adopts a child, the child will be monstrous, weird, and difficult.

But what's the meaning of the star Tian Xiang (bright) here as the meaning is opposite to Wu Qu?

Children will have defect because of Hua Ji? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Happiness: She's not a happy person. She's extremely depressed (very dark Ju Men), escpeially because of money & marriage problem, can lead to unstable mental (may be crazy or commit suicide?)

Career: Her work doesn't give her enough money or no money at all.

Property: She will get property from her parents, but she will ruin/lose it and ending up a homeless person.

Health: She's considered quite healthy, no major health problem.

Friends: Though actually she's popular among her male friends, but ends up choosing the wrong guy to marry which can't make her happy and makes her depressed in her life.

Overall this is not a happy person (very depressed person): she has no money, no property, husband is not good, children are troublesome.

What about her sibling? Is her sibling in better condition than her or the same condition?

The above analysis might sound extreme, but please share your honest insight regarding the chart and tell me if I miss anything.

Thank you all in advance:-)

[windwheel]

1. Her character is good but a bit tempramental sometimes.
2. Her spouse palace is ok, she need good communication between her and her future spouse, also its sign objection from her parents related married, better get married late after 30. Her spouse has a good special skill in career.
3. She will have a good special skill but need effort to get this, and she will have a good career in the future.
4. She need good money management in the future.
5. Sign not smooth in pregnancy, or its sign a bit late get children.
6. Btw this chart is not bad chart. She will have a good future.
7. Because she has sign to be a freedom woman so before married she need build commitment between her and her spouse.
8. Her property palace is good, so its sign her property investment will be good too.

[fongwee768]

Thank you for contributing :-)

1. Tai Yang is dark in spouse palace. I read from somewhere that a dark Tai Yang in spouse palace indicates that the husband will hurt the woman, especially there is Hua Quan (the controling) star with it?
2. Po Jun is a ruinous star. She has extremely dark Po Jun in her property palace. Doesn't it mean that she will ruin the property she gets from the parents and ending up no home (homeless)?
3. I agree with you that her career is in better condition and she needs to management her money wisely.
4. Dark Ju Men reflected in Happiness (Karma) palace is a sign of very depressed lady? Moreover dark Tian Tong which is also reflected in Karma palace signs that she gets hurt easily?
5. What does bright Tian Xiang in Children palace together with dark Wu Qu mean as its meaning is opposite to dark Wu Qu which is also found in children palace?

Thank you so much :-)

For other masters who want to contribute, please don't hesitate to say what your opinions are as we can prepare this person to get more closely to spiritual/religious matters so that she'll be more receptive of her destiny and be able to grow good karma for her future life, and also to make understanding that her destiny in present is the result of past life.

[windwheel]

Hello,

I dont use your style too read the chart. So i cannot answer your question. Hope the other master can help you with your method.

[Snow]

@fongwee768

1. Tai Yang is dark in spouse palace. I read from somewhere that a dark Tai Yang in spouse palace indicates that the husband will hurt the woman, especially there is Hua Quan (the controling) star with it?

Tai Yang in spouse palace is at its brightest level, not dark

[chary]

The chart is below average, nothing special 
Many charts are worser than this, just enjoy life.

[hanzzo]

Hello Fungwee

your reading remind me not along ago.
thats not the way (at least in my opinion) to do zwds readings.

I will advise you to take at least the Foundation course provided by Aoe Fengshui Master.

First this chart is almost between hours 3Am so we cant tell wich chart might be.

second its allways recomended to cross events to check wich chart should we apply in this case.

Third, you are reading in a SAN HE style.
wich in my personal opinion its very hard and confusing and might not even get good results.

fourth, unless you really really i mean really good, its better you dont guide by brightness levels and only stars descriptions.

Because in some points Di jie can be good or really bad. i've read that void stars are good in health btw.

One of my friends have QI sha with Di jie di kong and hou xing all in ming, and hes one of the luckiest person i know.

Better learn Flying huas for better chart comprehension.

Now the chart itself.

Not overly great but not overly bad either. Ju men its not the problem  (my opinion) but di jie in happiness might give mean mood swings since its something fast, but at the same time it have hua lu to opposite with lifa hua lu in wealth, dont recall if it means lu out in this case,
Master aoe Fengshui can tell.

Po Jun in Property (Po Jun its never a good sign) sending hua ji to wealth, might mean she will sell property or items below the cost loosing some value on the transaction (my opinion).

Not a bad spouse palace at all, but with di kong there, it might delay the marriage a bit (Not by the chart owner choice)

too early to tell how this chart might turn out. and its better to cross events first.

This is just my 2 cents.

Keep posting more charts
 

[hanzzo]

Btw, check Kim Kardashian Chart.
And see if her chart resembles anything about her life.
you will see that we cant judge brightness levels that easily.

  

[fongwee768]

Thank you again for contributing:-)

@Snow: I've double checked about Tai Yang in You, and it means either 'normal/average', or 'dim (almost dark)' with rating 4.

@hanzzo:

Thank you for analyzing the chart. I've been thinking of taking the zwds reading course and the way I read my chart is usually done by beginners which is just a rough analyzing, so I could be wrong in many ways and that's why I post this in the forum hoping to get some insights from people more knowledgable regarding zwds reading.

I was considering which chart is correct, whether the 1am-3am or 3am-5am chart. But after I confirmed to the family of the person, they confirmed that the one born at 3am-5am resembles her most, for example:
- the person does seem very active, can't stay still at all
- she's temperamental (angry), easily cries for small unimportant reasons. She'll kick the door hard or smash things angrily if we don't do what she asks.
- she's moved town once she was born
- she has spleen problem (matches the health issue for people born at 3am-5am).

Anyway, I do hope that I misinterpretate the bad things I've read. The family of this person loves her truly and unconditionally regardless of anything that might happen to her. They just wanna be prepared of the worst thing that could happen to her so if anything bad happens they wouldn't be too shocked or blaming anyone because of it. I think it's also a good turning point for the whole family as they try to do better things in life.

Yes, I've also read that it's better if she delays the marriage in life and marry older guy which is wiser to deal with her temperamental issue.

Somehow it's really good to hear that it's not a very bad chart after all. I have to learn more about zwds reading   
So far I've been studying the zwds material from the American Fengshui Institute and Joseph Yu pdf learning material (can be downloaded for free from the internet  )

[fongwee768]

@hanzzo

Btw, xould you please share me Kim Kardashian's birth chart? I'm curious to know as well 

Thank you so much in advance 

[hanzzo]

Hello,

go to www.astrotheme.com  and youl find almost every celetbity birth details.

yea i have those pdfs, and ive read them already. but after a lot of investigation about friends family members, people ive met in the readings and celebrities ive came to notest that most of the people dont resemble their ming star at all (at least according to the free pdfs and online artciles ive came across so far), so i use i mix of western with zwds to trace profiles.

you can learn a lot here
http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?board=68.0

and there is posts here that i cant remember the names and the authors of them, but are so valuable.

[fongwee768]

Thank you so very nuch for analyzing the chart. Anyone has any idea regarding the child of this person? There's signs that there could be problem regarding pregnancy & abortion issue, but is there any sign of having defect kid? Or anything else that I missed?

Thank you again