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  • Demise of mother in youth?
    « on: September 11, 2022, 09:41:01 AM »
    Greetings,

    I appreciate the opportunity to get more clarity on this matter. and thanks in advance for your time.

    I have recently been looking into my son's chart.  His date of birth is February 17 2014 born at 2003 CST US

    I am reading a book that said if the direct resource to a male represents the mother (me).  It also said three direct resources on any natal chart meant sickness for that person (I have many DR stars on my personal chart) - more with annual and 10 year pillars. However, I have not been sickly so how can this be?

    1. "If too many direct wealth star - weakens mother - means mother sick." How many direct wealth stars are too many?  My son doesn't have a DW in his chart. Can this change by the annual and 10 year pillars I'm guessing yes? Made worse by the fact I have many DR stars in my own personal chart?

    2.  What was horrifying to read was the LIKELY DEMISE OF MOTHER IN youth.  "When the direct resource star at the month stem are 'USEFUL GODS' and are not 'conflicted' or 'clashed' the meaning is positive... (I haven't learned enough yet to be able to answer this question with confidence)

    HOWEVER

    "When the direct resource star at the month branch are being 'subdued' or 'clashed' it indicate the mother will likely be demised during their youth." The book abruptly ends here, offering no other explanations or examples.

    My son's day master is yin earth, so I believe this clashing element would be yin wood. He has the yin wood in the hidden branches of his day pillar.  Yin wood is also present in the current and next 10 year pillar it its hidden branches. Interestingly, yin wood was present for the year 2019 I believe.  It will also surface in 2025, 2029, 2045, 2039, etc. I also don't know how to tell if the direct resource star is being 'subdued' or 'clashed'?  Maybe some other things can cause the direct resource to clash?

    But ALSO this book says the BRANCH represents the mother... which is YANG WOOD. My son's direct resource is BING FIRE located in the heavenly stem.

    So how exactly do I interpret this? Am I represented by bing fire or yang wood? This is giving me anxiety! Appreciate any insight.

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  • Re: Demise of mother in youth?
    « Reply #1 on: September 11, 2022, 02:55:22 PM »
    Some books are often overly dramatic and too simplified, so first, I would suggest not focusing too much on that.

    A lot of resources mean that the person is most likely very sensitive, so yes, that also means health sensitivity.

    Your son's chart is very hot, Yin Earth surrounded by Fire, Wood and Dry Earth. This could indicate even a special chart, but it's hard to say at this point.

    I guess you are very close to him; how does he reacts to your emotional and physical support, positively or negatively? This might give us some clues.
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  • Re: Demise of mother in youth?
    « Reply #2 on: September 11, 2022, 11:33:10 PM »
    My son's chart IS VERY HOT!  You are 100% on that.  Thank you for the reassurance on the "overly dramatic" but I still want to understand what the author mean and how this conclusion is arrived at.

    My son's chart is very close to Donald Trump's.  He has the exact same day master column. Donald Trump has the bing fire in his year heavenly branch whereas my son has his bing fire in the monthly heavenly branch and is rooted by another bing fire - Donald Trump just has one bing fire (I think it's better to just have one bing fire?). My son almost has the summer trinity having the horse and goat in his natal and at age 26 pillar I believe the snake will come in for him. Also he has yin-wu-xu combination which is another fire combo I believe still new at this).  I think he also has a bullying punishment between the goat and dog in his natal, and will have some annual and monthly clashes with goat and ox. Of course as to what all this means, I don't know.

    To answer your questions, he picks up on my verbal and non-verbal cues easily.  When I am sad he has empathy. We are very close.  I am a single mom so we are like a good little team.
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  • Re: Demise of mother in youth?
    « Reply #3 on: September 14, 2022, 06:56:58 AM »
    I see other posts getting more responses :(

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  • Re: Demise of mother in youth?
    « Reply #4 on: September 14, 2022, 09:15:15 AM »
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  • Re: Demise of mother in youth?
    « Reply #5 on: September 14, 2022, 09:56:59 AM »
    Thank you Ren. The author is Patrick Choo "Destiny Stars 10 Gods" (if you have Kindle unlimited the book is free) and I tried to Google him (the author) but impossible to find. He has no contact information is his book either.  What I posted is a direct quote from the book so if I don't make any sense, then he doesn't make any sense.

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    « Reply #6 on: September 14, 2022, 11:53:25 AM »
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  • Re: Demise of mother in youth?
    « Reply #7 on: September 14, 2022, 12:22:37 PM »
    Yes that is exactly what I read.  Hoping someone can make sense of my son's chart to answer this question for me.  Thank you for posting.

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  • Re: Demise of mother in youth?
    « Reply #8 on: September 14, 2022, 01:13:05 PM »
    Frankly I have a hard time understanding what you posted and will try to answer based on what I can pick up.

    Clashes between Year and Day pillars mean he will have the desire to leave his place of birth and establish his life elsewhere. In fact, his life and career will be better for it. He can't count on his birth family's support to help him in his career.

    With 2 Earth as 'roots' and 2 Fire elements growing him, he is a strong Yin Earth Daymaster. This makes all the Direct Officer elements favorable to him, which will help his career immensely.

    Your son has a strong desire for leadership and recognition. His future career will most likely be in a high position of authority and management, maybe politics.

    Also, this clash signifies his character, personality and perspectives will be quite different from his parents'. As he grows older, you will have to accept that he doesn't see things the same way you do. You don't have to worry much about him. The Direct and Indirect Resource elements in his Year and Month Pillars indicate he would be quite well-educated and possess the requisite qualifications to make his career a success.

    His chart doesn't have any Wealth elements (Water). He is very much motivated by power and authority, not money.

    As a side note, when comparing 2 people, having even 1 different Pillar means both will have vastly different lives. It's no longer comparing apple to apple.

    If the book is making you panic, I would advise you to stop reading it and chuck it in the bin. Piecemeal information is worse than having no knowledge about this subject.
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    Missing info won't be answered.
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  • Re: Demise of mother in youth?
    « Reply #9 on: September 14, 2022, 05:55:38 PM »
    Hello tkbazi, my i know is your son right now ok and healthy ??

    Your son's chart could belong to a special chart.

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  • Re: Demise of mother in youth?
    « Reply #10 on: September 15, 2022, 12:22:59 AM »
    Yes he is very much okay and healthy!  He has never even had an ear infection in his life.  He has been blessed with a lot of health and strength.

    Since a lot of people are posting that my "original question doesn't make sense" I will post it here now so people can be very clear.

    In Patrick Choo's book referenced above, he states that the direct resource in the month pillar of my son's chart represents the mother. 

    Specifically, "When the Direct Resource star at the Month Branch are being subdued or clashed, it indicate the mother will likely demised during their youth. This will happen when the subduing Element appeared during Current Cycle."

    He provides the following example (note: not same elements as my son's chart) - "Bing fire is Jia Woods Seven Killing star. Thus this person mother is likely to demise when the Chart enter Bing Fire Current Cycle Year."

    So my questions are:
    1. Does anyone see this in my son's chart?
    2. Do most people agree with this concept as far as it's ability to predict mother demise?
    3. Does demise equal death?

    Hope things are crystal clear now!

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    « Reply #11 on: September 15, 2022, 08:30:47 PM »
     "Bing fire is Jia Woods Seven Killing star". Do u mean Bing fire is a seven killing for Jia Wood daymaster ?

     "When the Direct Resource star at the Month Branch are being subdued or clashed, it indicate the mother will likely demised during their youth. This will happen when the subduing Element appeared during Current Cycle." 

    According to your son chart the bing fire in the month stem and inside tiger branch represent you.
    In 2016 the ren water inside monkey branch clashing the bing fire inside the tiger at the month branch, are you demised in that year ? Well in fact you still can ask a question in 2022  :) :).

    Now in 2022 the ren water on the heavenly stem clashing the bing fire in month stem. But Im totally sure you will be totally fine and ok and the clash only make u a bit worried. You already show your worried by asking this question..  :)

    Usually the book only give us general knowledge for learning purpose, the book doesn't know our bazi chart while bazi chart analysis actually must be personalized.

    Your son chart category need to verified with the past event whether he belong to a special chart or just normal chart. But he still too young to be verified.

    The strong presence of the resource star in your son chart mean he devoted to you and listen to you and pretty much loved by you, you can even a bit controlling to him.

    Typical "Mommy Boy".

    Since based on your story that he never face major health problem and his ear is beautiful, then in my opinion he is belong to a special chart, therefore his fav element are fire,earth and wood.
    The 10 LP favors him until 2072.

    Health wise, since your son chart are hot and dry, therefore high chance when he grows mature he will like "Dry food" such grilled food,sweet food etc and a bit lazy to drink water.

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    « Reply #12 on: September 15, 2022, 11:27:14 PM »
    Thank you for your insight! You validated a lot of feelings I had.  I don't want to put down the author who wrote the book but with Bazi I feel that one has to look at so many factors as a whole, including ancestor, human/karma luck. For being so ominous a prediction, it sounded way too straight forward. I incorrectly thought the opposing/clashing element was yin wood (my son's 7K) but even so, he's had this in his chart for a long time now and here I am typing this. I will say, it has been very difficult as a single mom to raise him with little support and in some sense I do feel "demised" as I have had no time for my own interests, friends or for love.  Everything is work and mom responsibilities. So, in that sense, maybe the author is correct. I am really interested to see if my son has a special chart.  People are very naturally drawn to him, he makes friends very easily and I see a lot of potential in him! And he does love the food you mentioned :)

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