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I'm going to have a baby soon and my doctor suggested c-section on 7 Feb 2022 after 9am for my baby boy. Is this a good day for my baby boy? I put it in some calculators; some say it's weak and some say it's special chart.... so I'm confused  :-\

can someone tell me what type of chart is this and whether is this a good chart?


Caesarean section is not suitable for childbirth, and anesthetics are not good for children. It hurts both kid and mother.

I am sorry for my late reply. Actually I am very busy recently. You know it is under a hard day in Hong Kong. I will continuously write somethings for this topic later.

Please wait. Thanks all.

八字如何使用陽曆 (三)
How to use the Gregorian calendar in Bazi (3)


There are twelve branches in bazi. This system of twelve branches is very similar to another system "Zodiac Sign", but they are two different systems, but both are based on the solar system.

The twelve branches are based on the day when the Yin and Yang balance in the "Twelve Hexagrams" are used as the beginning of the year; while the start of the year under the "Zodiac" is based on the day when the Yin and Yang is balanced based on the sun’s lights.

《十二辟卦》"Twelve Pee Hexagrams"


十二辟卦,又名「十二消息卦」。「消息」不是 "New" 或 "Message" 的意思,這兩個字各有其獨立的意思。「消」是「陽消陰長」的意思,「息」是「陽長陰消」的意思(從子到巳為「息」,從午到亥為「消」)。那是由「子月」開始,從卦的底端,長出第一個「陽」爻出來,然後「丑月」開始,再長出第二個陽爻出來,當去到寅月,這時卦由三個陽爻、三個陰爻組成一個陰陽平衡的狀態,古人將之設定為一年的開始。

The twelve hexagrams are also known as "the twelve message hexagrams”. 消息 or "Message" does not mean "New" or "Message". These two words have their own independent meanings. 消 or "Xiao" means "Yang disappears and Yin grows", and 息 or "Xi" means "Yang evolves and Yin disappears" (from Zi to Si is 息 or "Xi", from noon to Hai is 消 or "Xiao").

It starts with 子月 "Zi moon". From the bottom of the hexagram, the first "Yang" line grows out, then the "丑 moon" starts, and then the second yang line grows out. When it comes to “寅 moon”, then The hexagram consists of three Yang lines and three Yin lines to form a state of Yin and Yang balance, which the ancients set as the beginning of the year.


You can have a think about the twelve hexagrams above, that this is actually a model of the Sun’s irradiance. It has nothing to do with the shape of the moon, so it has no place to account for the "leap moon".

正月建寅 First month begins with Yin


The month branch does not really refer to a "month"; it is the different angles between the earth and the sun, and thus the different seasons that the earth produces, as mentioned above. And we generally say that the beginning of 立春 “spring” and 雨水 “rain” belong to the "寅 month", the 驚蟄 or “startling sting” and 春分 “vernal equinox” belong to the "卯 month", etc. The word "month" is just a reference term according to the custom.

The so-called 正月建寅 or "first month to build Yin" in ancient texts means that the first month is "built" on Yin. This "Yin" has no unit, because Yin is a range of angles, not a "month". You can call it Yin "palace". This is closer to its true meaning.


The first month refers to the lunar month. Since the first month is established on the Yin Palace, it means that the lunar month depends on the jie qi, rather than the jie qi depending on the lunar calendar.

Although the 萬年曆 or "Perpetual Calendar" has two calendars at the same time, it does not mean that bazi use two calendars. In fact, bazi only use the part of the solar calendar.


Since the "Gregorian Calendar" is the mainstream calendar in the Western world today, and it is calculated based on the laws of the sun, "Gregorian Calendar" is highly related to "jie qi".

As mentioned earlier, for example, today is August 28th in the Western calendar, it is easy to know that it is the "申 Shen Palace" (month commander), the "Si Palace" (ie Virgo) of the zodiac sign; but if I was to tell you today is the tenth day of the seventh month of the lunar calendar, you won’t be able to know what the month commander in bazi is or what constellation it belongs to without checking the perpetual calendar.

Therefore, using the Perpetual Calendar to arrange bazi is to allow for people who are accustomed to the lunar calendar to find out the solar calendar, instead of the other way around.

八字用不着把農曆查出來的最主要原因,是因為推算八字時,根本不會考慮命主出生時的月相是盈是虧;倒是命局的寒熱很重要,八字取用神有所謂「調候為急」,那是指「調候用神法」比很多取用神方法為重要。然則,月缺的時候,八字有甚麼取用神方法嗎 ?!

The main reason why the bazi does not need the lunar calendar is because when arranging a set of bazi, it does not take into account the phases of the moon (whether it is round or not). It is the coldness and warmth of the chart that is important. 調候為急 or "Adjustment of the temperature of the chart as a priority" means that adjusting the temperature of the chart is more important than finding the useful god of a chart. With the above being said, if bazi is really considered based on moon phases, how do we then find the Useful God when the moon is “New moon” or “Full moon”?!


With regards to the zodiac system, it will be discussed later.

(Thanks JT for translation)

八字如何使用陽曆 (二)
How to use the Gregorian calendar in Bazi (2)


As I was writing this "Bazi is a solar calendar" article, I didn't know that there were so many controversies and misunderstandings about the use of the lunar calendar and the solar calendar in the English Bazi practitioner community. But as I had earlier said, my English is not very good, and I rely on my friend for translation, I cannot be bothered to dwell on to-and-fro arguments. All I seek to do is to share the rationale for your own analysis and thinking. After all, there are far more documents in Chinese than in English on bazi as a subject matter.

在以前個人電腦未普及的時候,起八字盤都要買一本《萬年曆》作為查閱八字之用。《萬年曆》並沒有記載 10000 年的日曆資料在裏面,它只是一個稱呼。而《萬年曆》必須載有準確的廿四節氣的時間,而一般的《萬年曆》都把節氣的時間,記錄細緻到時分。

Before personal computers were readily available, one would have to buy a 萬年曆 or a "Perpetual Calendar" for the purpose of looking up the Bazi. The Perpetual Calendar does not actually record the calendar data of 10,000 years in it, and is but just a given name. The "Perpetual Calendar" contains the 24 節氣 Jieqi, and most of the available Perpetual Calendars will cover the 節氣 Jieqi in detail.


However, because Chinese people are accustomed to the lunar calendar, the Perpetual Calendar also includes the lunar calendar (many folk ceremonies are held according to the lunar calendar). The Chinese lunar calendar is mainly the lunar calendar. 陰 or "Yin" means 太陰 or "Tai Yin", which means the moon, which is the lunar calendar. While we mostly term it as the lunar calendar, strictly speaking the Chinese lunar calendar should be the 陰陽合曆 or the "Yin and Yang calendar", because the light of the moon comes from the sun (the new moon  and the full moon) depends on the angle of lights from the sun. The three positions of the sun, the moon and the earth are required to determine the phase of the moon.


But because this Perpetual Calendar includes two different sets of calendars at the same time, many people are confused by the two calendars. The strange thing is that I have only seen people who are metaphysics trained confused but not others.

More than ten years ago, I once bought a constellation on the streets of Mainland China. The constellation was very crude, and was just on a single sheet of paper, and sold for one dollar. I looked at it and found it funny. The piece of constellation asked people to use the lunar calendar to find out where their sign belonged. For example, the person would be 白羊座 or  “Aries”  if birthday was to fall between March 21st to April 20th of the lunar calendar. This is, of course not the case but is for entertainment.


Coming back to this "Perpetual Calendar", although it records two calendars at the same time, the two calendars are however based on completely different systems.

For example, even if the moon explodes and disappears today, it will not affect the twenty-four solar terms, because the time for each of the twenty-four solar terms is determined by the angle between the tilt of the earth’s axis and the plane of ecliptic. It has nothing to do with the moon. Similarly, even if the earth’s axis suddenly ceases to tilt one day, 90 degrees perpendicular to the plane of ecliptic, and the seasons on earth disappears, it will not have any effect on the 29 to 30 day cycle of the moon phase.


The above mentioned are some very common astronomical knowledge, and in fact, has nothing to do with Bazi. And I am not an expert with academic qualifications. For example, I don’t know how the first day of the Western calendar is determined. If you know, please tell me. It's just that when I was picking up bazi, I came to learn this little bit more of knowledge. These are all taught in elementary or middle school, right?

現在起八字盤簡單多了,在電腦軟件上輸入一個西曆日期,八字盤就排出來了。而我們輸入的這個西曆,名為「格里曆」。這個格里曆,只與陽曆相關,與陰曆完全無關。例如今天是8月25日,我數數手指,就知道今天是「處女座」,即是太陽進入巳宮,留意這個「巳宮」不能叫做「地支」,它不是地支,它是「黃道宮位」,這個將來有機會再談。論地支,一看西曆是 8月25日,馬上就知道是「申」月了。這個換算過程,從不牽涉月亮的位置。

Setting up a bazi is much simpler now. Enter a date on the computer software and the bazi will be arranged for you in an instant. The Western calendar we entered is called 格里曆 or "Gregorian Calendar." This Gregorian Calendar is only related to the solar calendar and has nothing to do with the lunar calendar. For example, today is August 25. I counted my fingers, and I knew that today is "Virgo", that is, the sun enters the 巳宮 or the Si Palace. Please note that this sign cannot be called a "branch". It is not a branch. It is known as a "Zodiac".

This will be discussed again in the future. Regarding the Branches, when you see that it is August 25 in the Gregorian calendar, you immediately know that it is the 申 or "Shen" month. This conversion process never involves the position of the moon.


I also know how to write software, and in fact I wrote a bazi software more than ten years ago, and I do know how a set of bazi is arranged. In fact, a bazi software only needs to know the date in the Gregorian calendar to output the set of bazi. Only in order to accommodate some people who only know the birthday of the lunar calendar, it is necessary to add a lunar calendar comparison table in the software, otherwise the bazi software does not require lunar data at all.


The above are probably boring for those with a background, but I wanted to share some information here for everyone after seeing so much controversy with regards to the solar and the lunar calendars in relation to bazi. I hope that Bazi practitioners not only "believe" that Bazi uses the solar calendar, but also really "know" why it uses the solar calendar.

But of the length of this article, I will pause here and discuss more about it in the next article.

(Thanks JT for the translation.)

Ok kets change history to match your post.
The Chinese instead creating their own calendar adopted the western solar calendar 5000 years ago.
Bazi is now plotted with 30 day months instead of 28days based on the phases of the moon.
Bazi now base the seasons on solar months, instead of using the 24 节气 that the ancient people used to measure the seasons.

Now go out and plot charts like this in the future and lets see the results of your readings on here.

Very simple.

Note: 命书 is the accumulated knowledge of over 2000 uears of knowledge since the beginning of Chinese Culture.
There were many precursor books before  命书 like Huai Nan Zi.

Oh and you are right 8/19 is 七月初一。Human mistake on my end.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Sadly unlike some member on here. I don't have the special privilege to go back and correct it.

How to use the Solar calendar in Bazi


Please forgive me for not being able to respond to your arguments in a timely manner. I would have liked very much to do so but am handicapped by my command of English, requiring help from my friend to translate my replies from mandarin to english word by word. As such, I decided to pre-emptively write about the use of the Gregorian calendar in bazi in order to try to reduce some of this hassle for my friend.


Because computers are now popular, there is no need to use the 萬年曆 perpetual calendar to arrive at a set of bazi. The advantage is that it is convenient for users, but the disadvantage being that many users has overlooked the building blocks from manually arranging a set of bazi / chart.


Firstly, the 「寅月」"yin yue", 「卯月」"mao yue"... etc. in bazi are synonymous with solar terms. Every month includes one "jie" and one "qi". Many bazi books will explain these basic theories.  The "jie" and "qi" both come from the solar calendar, because they are determined by the relative position of the sun and the earth. And this is also the source of the season.

Below is a table of the branches with corresponding periods, jies and qis.
24 Solar Terms

Month Branch節 (Ecliptic longitude)氣 (Ecliptic longitude)Solar date range (approximately)
Yín - 寅
立春 (315°)
雨水 (330°)
Mǎo - 卯
驚蟄 (345°)
春分 (0°)
Chén - 辰
清明 (15°)
穀雨 (30°)
Sì - 巳
立夏 (45°)
小滿 (60°)
Wǔ - 午
芒種 (75°)
夏至 (90°)
Wèi - 未
小暑 (105°)
大暑 (120°)
Shēn - 申
立秋 (135°)
處暑 (150°)
Yǒu - 酉
白露 (165°)
秋分 (180°)
Xū - 戌
寒露 (195°)
霜降 (210°)
Hài - 亥
立冬 (225°)
小雪 (240°)
Zǐ - 子
大雪 (255°)
冬至 (270°)
Chǒu - 丑
小寒 (285°)
大寒 (300°)


In contrast to the moon, I have seen people mentioning that bazi starts with the first day of the first lunar month "Yinyue", and the first day of the second lunar month "Maoyue" and so on. But as we all know, the moon has nothing to do with the seasons.

What is termed as 正月 or the first month is just to let people know that Spring is here. These calendars are created by people manually,  by inserting a 陰曆月 "lunar month" for adjustment, which is the so-called "leap month" where necessary; but please be reminded that all these are “man-made”, not a law of the stars in the sky. If the creators of the lunar calendar do not make this correction, it will happen that the first day of the first lunar month falls on the mid-autumn day.


Using the lunar calendar to set up a bazi, another problem to be solved is how to deal with the "leap month". For example, the "leap seventh month" - does it mean that there are two 申 months and accounting for sixty days? Is this the case? The above are amongst some of the areas that advocates of the lunar calendar do not have an answer / explanation.


As for the Life book or "Ming Shu" and "Huai Nan Zi" you mentioned, could we trouble you to quote some relevant chapters for us to reference?

Chinese calendar has always been lunar based.
They only adopted the gregorian calendar in the past 100 years.
Bazi is 1500 years old do the math.

Most bazi software online converts your solar birthday to lunar birthday before plotting your chart.
Very simple 8/19/2020 how would you plot this bazi chart?

If you say 庚子,甲申,乙未。 You are not using the solar calendar. You are using the lunar calendar.
 七月初二 July 2nd in the Chinese Calendar. All bazi is based on Chinese Calendar.

If you are using modern software to that lets you enter your solar birthday, it automatically reverts it back to lunar.

The lunar calendar is a calendar system based on the moon and the planetary bodies. Without the position of the sun, the moon does not know whether it is in spring or autumn, or whether it is round or crescent shaped.

Could I then ask you which ancient bazi texts or books chronicles that the month pillars of a set of bazi are determined by using the lunar calendar? And I also like to know how one then deals with a leap month in the lunar calendar.

In addition, what was the first bazi document 1500 years ago?

>Very simple 8/19/2020 how would you plot this bazi chart?
>If you say 庚子,甲申,乙未。 You are not using the solar calendar. You are using the lunar calendar.
>七月初二 July 2nd in the Chinese Calendar. All bazi is based on Chinese Calendar.
8/19/2020 is 七月初一 but not 七月初二. But if you used adjustment of full moon adjustment, it is another issue. And I wonder which Chinese Calendar or software figure out 8/19/2020 is 乙未日?

But Jerry King thinks otherwise:
I read the essay but I didn't see any theory to support how and why using Lunar to bazi. Just suggest people to give it a try.

Ok. So do you know the theory about Lunar in Bazi?

Bazi is based on the solar calendar


Each of the eight characters in a set of bazi is like a signal transmitting station, which continuously emits energy. This is especially so for the branches; they provide the energy to support the stems, and the stems use its own energy and the support from the branches to affect the fate of the Destiny Holder. It may be inappropriate to say that the characters affect / influence the Destiny Holder as the characters only "reflect" the various states of the Destiny Holder’s fate, just like the thermometer reflecting the temperature of the environment and not that the weather is hot because the indicator of the thermometer shows a high reading.


Branches are indeed very important. The stems rely on it as the root, akin to a plant; if it loses the nutrients of the soil, even if it does not wither, it can't flourish. However, the four branches are not of equal importance. The "Month Commander" (Month Branch) is particularly important because it emits the largest energy among the Earth Branches.

The reason is very simple; the Month branch represents the season. For example, when the Month Commander is a fire, it represents summer. It is hot everywhere. Its influence is far-reaching and continuous. For example, if you turn on the air conditioner in the summer heat, it feels comfortable. When the air-conditioning is turned off, it heats up again, which reflects the continuous power of the Month Commander.


The other is the hour branch, which represents the hour of the day. For example, a “water” hour branch must be at night. It also reflects the temperature of a chart, while it is not as obvious as the month branch, the temperature at night will normally be lower than at noon, right?


On the other hand, the Year or Day branches, even if they are fire elements, does not affect the temperature of the chart. So be it the Month or the Hour branches, either of then has a special status for a bazi. The special thing is that its influence will affect the whole chart, that is to say, all the other seven characters are affected by them, especially the month order.

For example, if the Year branch is metal, and the Month stem is wood, but the Year branch will not overcome the Month stem; but the other way round, if the Month branch is metal and the Year stem is wood, the Month branch will harm the Year stem; in fact, this Month metal stem will not only harm the Year wood stem, but also any of the other characters in the bazi that are wood. As long as any of the characters are wood,  they will all be harmed by the Month metal stem with different severity.


To give a specific example, there is a situation in bazi known as "the Hurting Officer meets the Officer." This combination represents a bad interpersonal relationship. If a bazi has its Month branch as a Hurting Officer, and an Officer star in the stems (regardless of which stem), it means that the Destiny Holder's interpersonal relationship is not good. At this time, you have to see whether there are Wealth or Resource stars in the chart to mitigate the impact. If not, you may want to persuade the Destiny Holder to take up meditation or self reflection because such Destiny Holder when out of luck, will find himself or herself easily quarreling with others / causing trouble.


Recall that the Month and Hour branches are particularly important because of the sun. The seasons of spring, summer, autumn and winter are due to the sun. The different stages in a day, morning, afternoon and evening are also because of the sun. Their energy comes directly from the sun, so bazi is a Chinese Metaphysic (CM) study that relies on the solar calendar system. The lunar calendar is not relevant.

(Thanks JT for the translation.)

The meaning of ‘revealing through the heaven and hidden in the ground’


I had previously discussed that a strong Day Master can receive / support wealth and officer stars. As long as the Day Master has a healthy root, it will be able to withstand wealth and officer stars and benefit from such wealth and officer stars in decade pillars (in fact, the more the merrier)

If the Day Master is rooted but still weak, one would rather have Resource stars as opposed to Friend or Rob Wealth stars. This is because the roots of the branches are already Friend and / or Rob Wealth stars and seeing more Friend / Rob Wealth stars in the decade pillars would just be adding on to whatever is there (nice to have). It is only receiving what one needs that is truly useful.


For example, if the Day Master is 甲 wood, then 寅 wood would be a very suitable root for the 甲 wood. This 寅 wood need not necessarily be the branch that sits directly below the 甲 wood but can be any one of the four branches. This root has a term for it 祿 or "Lu" and for there are a set of catchy formulas / sayings that beginners recites to help remember the Day Master-Root relationships such as 「甲祿在寅」、「乙祿在卯」. Those learning bazi in English should also try to find ways to help them remember these relationships.

The corresponding 祿 or "Lu" for each of the ten stems



This kind of situation in which the stem has 甲 wood and the branch has 寅 wood is called 「天覆地載」or  more commonly 「天透地藏」and has the literal translation of "revealing through the heaven and hidden in the ground ".

「地藏」refers to the main Qi in the branch and not the other sub Qis because those are not strong enough.
This is an important element of what constitutes a good bazi structure. If a stem does not have sufficient support from the branch, it’s strength is weaker and we call such a stem 虛浮 which has the meaning of superficial or imaginary


Besides the Day Master benefiting from being rooted, it is better for the other stems that are beneficial to the Day Master to be rooted. For example, one does not need many Wealth stars as much as for the Wealth star to be rooted. Having too many Wealth stars is actually bad because Wealth stars attack Resource stars and when the Resource star is hurt, the Destiny Holder will become greedy without a care for reputation. The money is earned but in exchange for a bad reputation. Is this okay?


If at this time, there is another Officer star in the stems of the bazi, and is rooted through the branch(es), this will be a positive because the Officer star signifies ability and power. If you are nitpicking about the number of Wealth and Officer stars, and using that to compare to the strength of the Day Master or that the Wealth and Officer stars are not "balanced" and that it is a bad thing, then it is a big mistake.

A bazi case is attached for reference.

(Thanks JT for the translation.)

Misunderstandings of Strong Day Master and Strong Wealth


The Ten Gods represent ten characters, and each of these ten characters accordingly accounts for different sets of temperaments, situations and outcomes. But in each set of bazi, there are four stems and four branches, and each of these branches have hidden stems. So, which of these represents you? On the other hand, each of the Ten Gods has their advantages and disadvantages. How to judge whether the ten gods appearing in the Bazi is showing more of its positive or negative aspects?


There is a saying that a person has multiple personalities so it is normal that he is represented by more than one of the Ten Gods. But based on this approach, when you encounter a bazi encompassing all five elements with all Ten Gods, what should we do then?


There are some people who think that the Destiny Holder’s personality is best reflected by the strongest element and Ten God. This is some truth to this. As a result, some people began to assess bazi using mathematical formulas to analyse the relative strength of each type of five elements. This approach was first adopted by Taiwanese Chinese Metaphysis (“CM”)  practitioners in the 1970s. The basis for this approach is predicated on the belief that decisively using such an approach makes the assessment of a set of bazi more scientific and removes subjectivity. This approach assigns numeric values to all the stems, branches and the hidden stems to determine the strength of the five elements of the set of bazi and can be quite complicated.

Apart from seeing some bazi software adopting such an approach, rarely do I come across people using this approach to assess a set of bazi because of inconvenience to determine it manually, but with the help of computing technology, results can now be determined in an instance. It's a pity that when this approach was introduced, computers hadn't become as accessible, otherwise this school would have become more popular, but in the 1970s, this was indeed a pioneering move.


But before that, bazi was not analyzed in this manner. Although the strength of the Day Master is very important, it is but only one of the factors as mentioned before. However, even if it is to assess the strength of the Day Master, the analysis philosophy should not be like this.

For example, in assessing the strength of the Day Master, a CM practitioner will compare the relative strength of the Day Master with the Wealth stars because  of the saying「身旺任財」「身旺可以托財官」.「任」has the meaning of「擔任」or “serves”. 「托」has the meaning of「負起」or “support”. 「身」refers to 日元 or the “Day Master”. The sentence having the meaning that only a strong Day Master will be able to support wealth or when the wealth stars are strong and the Day Master is weak, wealth will only pass through the hands of the Destiny Holder (the Destiny Holder does not get to enjoy the riches). Although this is a widely known saying, no explanation whatsoever is available as to what is construed as strong or weak and I have no clue as to the source of this saying.


But please don’t get me wrong, and that I do not think the strength of the Day Master is important. It is important, but its importance is not to balance the strength of the Day Master with the other seven characters in a set of bazi, but to have a support for the Day Master! It is only when one has established one's own value can one have the ability to deal with the different kinds of people and things in the world. So, what is the support of the Day Master? It is the "root" of the Branches.


For example, a character with a lot of wealth stars, as long as the Day Master is well connected to the roots of a branch, it will be enough for the person to become rich, even if the element represented by the Day Master is far fewer than the element represented by the wealth star.


However, there are varying degrees of the Day Master connecting to the roots of the branch. If the connections to the roots are not well supported, the effects will be greatly reduced, and may even cause financial trouble. For example, the Destiny Holder could even when successful, suddenly see failure if the root is clashed.

(Thanks JT for the translation.)

Request for birth chart reading [FREE] / Re: Really need help
« on: August 08, 2020, 03:02:31 AM »
@divinerchan do you mean that I could end up irritating law breakers by what I say or do and hence have a issue with the law because they will want to go after me?
I mean, please be careful about influenced by bad people or bad news, making you break the law. Or get trouble that conflicts with others seriously. Especially in next year (2021).

Request for birth chart reading [FREE] / Re: Really need help
« on: August 07, 2020, 03:58:25 PM »
Your bazi shows that you are easy to fall into the criminal. Keep positive thinking.
I really hope it never gets to that as I am setting out to fix problems in the world with my business not to become a problem. I would be curious to know what shows that I would end up doing that.
You are easy to provoke lawbreakers, which may cause you into lawsuits.

Sorry so does he easily fall in the criminal or does he get provoked by criminals? Two different things
Just curious can explain where you see this in his bazi?
I don't know is he the first cause in a case. Just like somebody is not suitable for doing business in partnership with others. I don’t know who is first proposed to start a business. I just know the person is not suitable for that.

And sorry I don't know how to explain my reading in this bazi.

Hi @divinerchan it is very hard to understand your english.
Its ok nm if you cant explain the bazi.
I am so sorry for my bad English.

Request for birth chart reading [FREE] / Re: Really need help
« on: August 07, 2020, 01:53:41 PM »
Your bazi shows that you are easy to fall into the criminal. Keep positive thinking.
I really hope it never gets to that as I am setting out to fix problems in the world with my business not to become a problem. I would be curious to know what shows that I would end up doing that.
You are easy to provoke lawbreakers, which may cause you into lawsuits.

Sorry so does he easily fall in the criminal or does he get provoked by criminals? Two different things
Just curious can explain where you see this in his bazi?
I don't know is he the first cause in a case. Just like somebody is not suitable for doing business in partnership with others. I don’t know who is first proposed to start a business. I just know the person is not suitable for that.

And sorry I don't know how to explain my reading in this bazi.

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« on: August 07, 2020, 10:25:31 AM »
Your bazi shows that you are easy to fall into the criminal. Keep positive thinking.
I really hope it never gets to that as I am setting out to fix problems in the world with my business not to become a problem. I would be curious to know what shows that I would end up doing that.
You are easy to provoke lawbreakers, which may cause you into lawsuits.

Supplement to the positives and the negatives of the Ten Gods


In the preceding text, I only discussed which of the Ten Gods are positive and negative without directly discussing why they are "positive” or  “negative". The reason was to avoid unnecessary confusion, misunderstanding and fear for beginners.

This is because each of these Ten Gods has bazi structures and configurations that suit them. If configured properly, the auspiciousness of the Inauspicious Gods can far outweigh those of the Auspicious Gods. But because there are several layers of analysis, it is easy for one to make mistakes when attempting to undertake an in-depth analysis if one does not have a good understanding of the nature of the Ten Gods.



My friend after reading the previous text remarked that he does not understand why 偏印 Indirect Resources should be an Inauspicious God so I have decided to supplement my previous text.

As mentioned in the preceding text, 正印 Direct Resources will affectionately try to assist the Day Master, and will do its best to “produce” the Day Master. This kind of assistance is of course beneficial for the Day Master. But Indirect Resource “produces” or assists in an unaffectionate manner but why is this bad? After all, it is still assisting the Day Master, albeit a bit less and hence is there a need to be so greedy and consider it inauspicious? Let me discuss here the 正 “Direct”and 偏 “Indirect”nature of Yin and Yang.


One Yin paired with one Yang signifies "Direct". "Direct" has the meaning of "conventional" and can be considered "mainstream". "Indirect" on the other hand means “unconventional” and suggests a departure from what is considered mainstream, or even abnormal. The seriousness of the departure will depend on how "Indirect" it is.

「偏」是否一定不好?當然不是,例如「偏財」。請大家留意,八字中的偏財,並不等於「橫財」,雖然它意義確實包含了橫財。「偏財」是不常有的錢、不固定的錢。「正財」是固定之財,例如受薪階級每月的工資,就是正財,只是收入是固定的,那怕是做生意,都是正財。例如開一間超級巿場,貨品的利潤或許平均約 20% 左右吧,今個月多不了多少,下個月少不了多少,這是正財。偏財呢,哪怕你只是一個小小的銷售員,例如你是銷售房地產的,這個月運氣不好,一單生意都談不成,下個月竟然替公司售出了三套房子,夠大半年的開支了啊,這就是「偏財」。

Is "Indirect" necessarily bad? Of course not - think about "Indirect Wealth" for an example.

Please note that the Indirect Wealth in bazi does not necessarily mean a "windfall", although a windfall is among one of its many meanings (it is a subset). "Indirect Wealth" is money that is not often available, or regular. "Direct Wealth" refers to regular cash flows / wealth. Examples of Direct Wealth would be where (i) the monthly salary that a salaried employee receives and also (ii) for businessmen or proprietors where the income or cash flows are fixed.

Direct Wealth could be for example, a business owner who operates a supermarket, let’s say the profit margin on goods is on average about 20%. It may be a little more this month, and a little less next month.

Indirect Wealth would be for example, a real estate broker, who may be unlucky in a certain month and cannot negotiate any close, but in other months could successfully close several transactions that would be more than sufficient to tide the person over for a meaningful while.


Coming back to "Indirect Resources", whether the star is an Indirect Resource or a Direct Resource, we still collectively refer to the star as a "Resource Star".

A Resource Star represents knowledge and the support one would receive from one’s superiors, because it “produces”or assists the Day Master. Therefore, Destiny Holders with Direct Resources personality, speak with reason and logic, and often have precedences to back up their arguments. Destiny Holders with an Indirect Resource personality on the other hand often quote or speak of information that most people have limited or no knowledge of!


It shouldn't be difficult for everyone to imagine, what type of information are those that people would have limited or no knowledge of? Some of this could include old historical text, gossip, or even conspiracy theories. These are examples of knowledge that a Day Master of Indirect Resource personality would favor.

In their eyes, these types of knowledge are not meant to be challenged or to be criticised. Regarding these types of knowledge, their beliefs is that in order to continue to develop this kind of knowledge, one should refer to historical texts, because people today do not have a good grasp of the fundamental concept of such knowledge, and using modern methods will only further deviate from the original intent of such knowledge. Have you ever met such a friend?


If the "Indirect Resource" is too strong, this will damage the "Eating God". Note that Indirect Resource and Eating God must be the same Yin Yang nature. If Indirect Resource is Yang, Eating God will be Yang, and if Indirect Resource is Yin, Eating God will be Yin.

Therefore, Indirect Resources controls the Eating God in an Unaffectionate manner. We should remember that the "Eating God" is a Positive God. The Positive God here is being unaffectionately controlled by an Negative God.

The ancients have a saying 偏印剋食神為「梟神奪食」or Indirect Resources controlling Eating God as Owl God stealing food. 奪 or stealing having the meaning of unforgiving, except when used in competitions, most other times it is a negative word), "梟" is another term for Indirect Resources and is sometimes, in ancient books, referred to as 梟神"Owl God"


If you understand the above discussion, and when you see a bazi that is characterised by 梟印奪食 or Owl God stealing food, you probably would be able to guess what type of person the Destiny Holder is.

(Thanks JT for the translation.)

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