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  • Some questions about some fundamentals of bazi.
    « on: June 11, 2022, 07:07:56 AM »
    As I am a beginner in the study of Bazi I have some questions to clarify some fundamentals of bazi.

    Is the Day Master only the celestial stem, or also its terrestrial branch? For exemple, with Jia - Zi, is the Day Master only Jia?

     Do the character traits of a chart  that define personality include all pillars?  Or just those of the pillar of the day?

    I have heard that the earthly branch of the month of birth is equivalent to the zodiac sign of Western astrology, is that so?

    Is it the structure of the graph that most defines a person's trends?
    Thank.

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  • Re: Some questions about some fundamentals of bazi.
    « Reply #1 on: June 12, 2022, 10:35:14 AM »
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  • Re: Some questions about some fundamentals of bazi.
    « Reply #2 on: June 12, 2022, 06:44:11 PM »
    Thanks a lot Ren.
    I ask you another question: the celestial stems represent the way in which an individual manifests himself in life, while the branches refer more to what is most intimate in the person, so if the DM refers to the self, to this self however, the deepest part is missing ...

    For example, the DM Wu earth sits above Zi, Wu earth represents a solid, reliable, patient, a little slow person, but within this person the psychic waters of the mouse are stirred. This is what I do not understand, because logically one would think that the person's self should be composed of the stem and branch of the pillar of the day.

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    Re: Some questions about some fundamentals of bazi.
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  • Re: Some questions about some fundamentals of bazi.
    « Reply #5 on: June 15, 2022, 09:04:17 PM »
    Hi Ren, I had already seen the pages you indicated, thanks. I know the characters of the branches and stems, but my question remains. In my opinion, to say that the DM is equivalent to the self, as is often said, cannot be exact, because the stems are the external manifestation, and this should also apply to the DM, so how can we talk about self without including the most intimate part and deep?

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  • Re: Some questions about some fundamentals of bazi.
    « Reply #7 on: June 16, 2022, 01:37:43 AM »
    Thanks Ren, my question concerns only a definition that I generally read that is given to the DM in numerous blogs: the DM as the essence of the person, as self, as the main part of the person.
    Simply saying that the DM is the reference point for the whole reading is clearer to me. You have to excuse me if I insisted on this point, but Bazi is a bit like mathematics, if you don't understand the initial logic, then the rest also becomes confused. Speaking of roots, there's a big world there, which can make a difference if interpreted well, that's my humble feeling as a beginner student! A big hug

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  • Re: Some questions about some fundamentals of bazi.
    « Reply #9 on: June 16, 2022, 07:57:57 PM »
    Thank you Mr. Rapa Nui, your scheme for proceeding with the analysis is very clear.
    Two things about traditional Chinese medicine come to mind that resemble what Bazi suggests, first that the body is like a landscape, exactly like an ecosystem, and that "healing a sick person is equivalent to governing a kingdom", second regard the DM comes to think of the concept of Shén 神 which is translated as "intelligence, spirit, luminosity, self-awareness", and which is hosted by the heart.
    The heart is considered the emperor among the five organs, but every other organ it has its own shen, and every organ every two months about,  takes the keys of the empire, but the fact remains that the Heart houses the main Shen and is the great emperor of all.
    It seems to me that this concept of shen and heart resembles the essence of the DM.

    (I hope the translation from Italian to English is clear enough)

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