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slametbing:
Dear all,

When I read his profile I wonder how can this man become rich without wealth element?
I am confused with the model structure diagram bazi. Does this chart is strong or weak?

30 April 1952 at Chen hour

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Hermelin,_Paul

Ren   Bing  Jia      Ren
Chen Wu    Chen  Chen

Any members can explain about this man especially in Bazi experience?

http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=7471535&ticker=CAP:FP

Thanks in advance


Best Regards


PS: My son have same chart Bazi DoB 15 April 2012  7:45 AM

DeNovo:
No wealth element don't always mean poor.  Lots of wealth element don't always mean rich. If no wealth element in natal, can look at luck pillar.  Even though your son same bazi, the zwds chart is different.

hokyau:
Could it be the 20 years of metal luck beginning 1984? WuShen & JiYou?

Quick google of his career, from wikipedia:


--- Quote ---He started his career in Jacques Delors's Ministry of the Economy.[1] From 1988 to 1991, he worked in Hubert Curien's Ministry of Research and Technology.[1] From 1991 to 1993,he worked in Dominique Strauss-Kahn's Ministry of Industry and Foreign Trade.[1]
He joined Capgemini in 1993 and was appointed as its CEO in 2002.[2][3] In May 2012, Paul Hermelin became Chairman and CEO of the Capgemini Group.
--- End quote ---

user290:
Ren    Bing   Jia      Ren
Chen  Wu   Chen  Chen

Based on Mangpai, this chart is a gang of three wet Earth EB and Water HS forming a group to control Fire.  The powerful gang is very effective in overcoming Fire.  He is sitting on Jie Cai or Yang Ren, which is used 用 as wealth, because what you control/overcome is wealth.  In other words, he is sitting on wealth.  And the wealth associated with this Ten God typically can come from speculative investing or even gambling, because Jie Cai is "rob wealth", it's like DM "robs wealth" from others.

Note that Yang Ren has no issue with injury or accident, because it's very well controlled and mediated by Water and Wood.

hokyau:
Hi JLim, hope you don't mind if I ask some questions to confirm my understanding


--- Quote from: Jlim on January 07, 2015, 01:39:22 PM ---Based on Mangpai, this chart is a gang of three wet Earth EB and Water HS forming a group to control Fire.  The powerful gang is very effective in overcoming Fire. 
--- End quote ---
I plotted his chart on bazi-calculator & it seemed to say that he is not an overly strong DM, it rated him 50%. When you say "very effective in overcoming Fire", does it mean that the presence of the 3 wet Earths is good for taming his Fire?


--- Quote from: Jlim on January 07, 2015, 01:39:22 PM ---He is sitting on Jie Cai or Yang Ren, which is used 用 as wealth, because what you control/overcome is wealth.  In other words, he is sitting on wealth.  And the wealth associated with this Ten God typically can come from speculative investing or even gambling, because Jie Cai is "rob wealth", it's like DM "robs wealth" from others.
--- End quote ---
I thought Wu was BiJian or Friend to Bing DM? But at the same time I've seen is referred to as 建祿 JianLu or roughly "Build Prosperity". hehe I checked out YangRen (羊刃goat blade) aka Sword Star in bazi-calculator ... yes, it says that for weak DM, it brings good financial luck  ;)  On the other hand, googling his name, I get the impression he worked up the ladder to get to where he is... rather than from speculative investing (who knows, maybe he did that on the side  :P)

--- Quote from: Jlim on January 07, 2015, 01:39:22 PM ---Note that Yang Ren has no issue with injury or accident, because it's very well controlled and mediated by Water and Wood.

--- End quote ---
Does that mean that YangRen portends injury & accident too?

Thanks

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