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  • Which Version of the I Ching do you use?
    « on: November 24, 2020, 11:05:48 AM »
    Hey All,

    I am just curious...

    What version of the I Ching do you use?
    Do you use it as a Divination tools or as a book of philosophy?

    Thanks,

    ren
     
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  • Re: Which Version of the I Ching do you use?
    « Reply #1 on: November 24, 2020, 01:29:32 PM »
    the practical fortune telling one is the classical method of i ching.  That one is used for divination.

    the book of changes is the philosophy academic study type. It's not really for divination but westerners use it as such. Or someone try to use it for divination shortcut as they couldn't learn the proper fortune telling version. Not many was taught the fortune telling version in the west so it's not as popular. There is really no validity to back  up I ching book of changes as a divination method according to history. It's more philosophy scholar work than it is divination.

    If I want answers, i use the fortunetelling version.  It's cuz of it being precise and accuracy.  Using a method that isn't accurate can be dangerous if you are going to rely on it.

    If i want to learn philosophy of life i would read the i-ching book of changes. Using it as divination isn't that accurate.  That's because fortune telling divination isn't it's purpose. according to history  timeline the creators were using it philosophical and ideology of nature and not as divination. they were not fortune tellers.  But somehow there is this big misunderstanding that book of changes is i ching divination. Most in the west don't know that there is another system of divination.  The popular book of changes philosophy overshadow the fortune telling method so not many know about it.

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  • Re: Which Version of the I Ching do you use?
    « Reply #5 on: November 25, 2020, 01:55:14 AM »
    If I want specific answers to my questions I would use the fortune telling divination.  The hexagram philosophy book of changes answers can be addition to the analysis as the hexagram is created too. Many in the west go cast nonstop which isn't the way to use
    i-ching. 5 plus time a day. lol. they using it superficially which won't get proper answers. That's how it is when one can get a hexagram analysis in the palm of their hands through a translated text.

    I'm sure the olden days know of both methods whereas many modern western folks don't know both. Especially fortune telling divination because that actually require studying to learn the tool skill.  The philosophy method just read a translation of hexagram analysis. That' don't require any skill or effort to learn. Western People these days want shortcut so they learn this way. Besides, the wen wang gua method isnt' as popular and usually those that actually delve deeper into chinese metaphysics know about it. Most users of the book of changes don't know about other chinese metaphysics. They learn of i ching through philosophy introduction in college or through psychology courses as often i ching is compare with jugian on studying topics of chance events and his use of it to understand psychology or nature of random events.

     Even in feng shui, many go learn black hat cuz they lazy to learn flying star analysis. they say too hard to understand and fear of mistakes. they tell me black hat method is so easy i can't get it wrong. lol. that's what you call wanting to take shortcut that it affect one's learning to go deeper.  Western americans are lazy like that with learning as i observed. They just want fast solution. they dont' care for accuracy.

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  • Re: Which Version of the I Ching do you use?
    « Reply #7 on: November 26, 2020, 03:06:55 AM »
    I got a bookshelf of different translations and i only use the version by Hua Ching Ni. In german language the version by Georg Zimmermann is ok too.

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  • Re: Which Version of the I Ching do you use?
    « Reply #9 on: November 30, 2020, 10:24:40 AM »
    I got a bookshelf of different translations and i only use the version by Hua Ching Ni. In german language the version by Georg Zimmermann is ok too.

    So the best books is Hua Ching Ni? This one can download online. :-\

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