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  • Looks like Cai Guan Yin chart but with miserable life
    « on: November 15, 2022, 07:15:50 PM »
    - Male
    - Date of birth : 18 January 1987
    - Time of birth : 08:09 am
    - City of birth : Manado, ndonesia
    - Gmt +8
    - Longitude : 124.60820179999996

    Before 2012 have inheritances, some lands, from influential family, get respect from people, and fame in the neighborhood. But lost everything when entered Jia Chen LP as Fu Yin also with Fan Yin AP.
    May some masters say something to this chart...? Thank you before masters...🙏
    « Last Edit: November 15, 2022, 07:35:36 PM by Kirocky18 »

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  • Re: Looks like Cai Guan Yin chart but with miserable life
    « Reply #1 on: November 15, 2022, 07:28:07 PM »
    Wealth element is transformed to 7-killings while wealth tomb is wide open. The money was never meant to be. Good thing is you are still well-protected by abundant Wood, although you'll have to put more effort to survive. Forget about the past and try to move on.
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  • Re: Looks like Cai Guan Yin chart but with miserable life
    « Reply #2 on: November 15, 2022, 07:50:35 PM »
    Thank you very much for the answer, so the transformation of Bing and Xin to 7k doesn't need support from month pillar?

    Yes i think the wood element is really strong as there is directional combination.

    This December will enter Yi Si LP, is it good?

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  • Re: Looks like Cai Guan Yin chart but with miserable life
    « Reply #3 on: November 15, 2022, 08:01:36 PM »
    There is Gui Water in the hidden stems of Chou month, thus completing the transformation.

    You've already started Yi Si phase since Feb this year. It's not favorable to you, making your DM extremely strong, which isn't a good thing. Si (Rob Wealth) element is very prominent when gathering strength from the abundant Wood. You have to be careful of unintentional money losses in this phase.

    What's your occupation at the moment?
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  • Re: Looks like Cai Guan Yin chart but with miserable life
    « Reply #4 on: November 15, 2022, 08:12:53 PM »
    Oh ok, because there are some master said that bing xin will not transform in ox month, i understand that there are variety in bazi reading.

    Si snake is yin fire so it is not rob wealth.

    Look like that you are not kind of bazi reader who look the strength of day master from season because they will say that the day master of this chart is weak and same element and resource will be good.

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  • Re: Looks like Cai Guan Yin chart but with miserable life
    « Reply #5 on: November 15, 2022, 09:06:02 PM »
    You can input your birth details and longitude at https://bazi-calculator.com/ and see if Si Fire is RW or otherwise. Si is a yin element that holds Bing (yang) Fire in its stem.

    Looking at the season is the first criteria to determine DM strength, but not the only one. We still have to consider the overall structure of the Terrestrial branches resulting from Yin-Mao-Chen combination to form Eastern Wood. Bing Fire, although transformed to Ren Water, still forms part of your chart and we also need to consider it as an analogous element of the DM. Interactions with phase and year elements can overcome and undo the Bing-Xin transformation. This is more advanced study of BaZi.

    Some of the symptoms of having an overly strong DM are overconfidence, avoiding bad news and refusing to heed helpful, balanced advice. Which is precisely the reason why extremely strong Daymasters tend to lose money from gambling, bad investments, doing business with the wrong people, etc.

    I understand that you just came out from a bad phase. This current phase is an improvement, but still not entirely favorable to you.
    « Last Edit: November 15, 2022, 09:08:57 PM by leonard28 »
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  • Re: Looks like Cai Guan Yin chart but with miserable life
    « Reply #6 on: November 15, 2022, 09:10:43 PM »
    - Are you married with children or still single?
    - Do you know ZWDS as well?

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    « Reply #7 on: November 15, 2022, 09:34:17 PM »
    In that calculator si snake is friend element and not rob wealth, athough bing rob wealth in hidden stem.

    I said before that i understand that there are variety in bazi reading and i observe all they perceptions, i also learn and look from the other metaphysic point of view, so asking question is a part of observation, it help me to more understand in reading.

    This is an unique chart because there are combinations such as bing xin, directional combination, and cai guan yin probability, so it needs lot of quetions to observe.

    Now i know what kind of bazi reader you are and i got answer from you, i really thank you for your respon.

    I found that there are some differences of reading chart from masters, and some metode work in some case but not work in other case where other wetode will.

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  • Re: Looks like Cai Guan Yin chart but with miserable life
    « Reply #8 on: November 15, 2022, 09:40:21 PM »
    - Still single
    - there was a friend of mine from Singapore want to teach me, but it is difficult for me because i dont speak Chinese😁

    found something from this chart...?

    - Are you married with children or still single?
    - Do you know ZWDS as well?

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  • Re: Looks like Cai Guan Yin chart but with miserable life
    « Reply #9 on: November 15, 2022, 09:50:35 PM »
    Oh, so it's not your bazi? I misunderstood your posts.

    So in your opinion, you consider Si fire as his Ding DM's Peer element?
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  • Re: Looks like Cai Guan Yin chart but with miserable life
    « Reply #10 on: November 15, 2022, 10:03:36 PM »
    Yes, i see that si fire is peer element.

    Before 2012 there were lot of water and wood elements before it and life was great, so water and wood must be favorable, and if wood favorable then fire also favorable even it is rob wealth as resource and peer element strengthen day master, the worst time just happened because fu yin LP together with fan yin AP.

    Oh, so it's not your bazi? I misunderstood your posts.

    So in your opinion, you consider Si fire as his Ding DM's Peer element?

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  • Re: Looks like Cai Guan Yin chart but with miserable life
    « Reply #11 on: November 15, 2022, 10:09:42 PM »
    found something from this chart...?

    This is your ZWDS chart ---> https://zwds-calculator.com/chart2?month=1&day=18&year=1987&h=08&m=09&gender=Male&luck_year=2022&gmt=8&long=124.608

    I know someone who has similar chart structure.

    - He is financially dependent on mother, female siblings, female friends and wife. It has to be women, I wonder why.
    - Bad attitude and bad temper, which harm the relationship with his female benefactors.
    - Very bad money management. Lost half of his inheritance in just five years.
    - Dysfunctional marriage, yet doesn't collapse thanks to his wife's resilient money management.

    I think you will do better because you're still single and you have awareness. Therefore more chances to stop the rot and recuperate.

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    « Last Edit: November 15, 2022, 10:13:01 PM by crimsongem »

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    « Reply #12 on: November 15, 2022, 10:23:32 PM »
    Thank you very much for your participation, it is really good nformation 🙏

    - yes , dependent person
    - lost everything
    - bad in relationship
    - lot of fights before 2012, but those fights result recognitions.

    Typically of weak day master with abundant of resource with officer, i think.
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    found something from this chart...?

    This is your ZWDS chart ---> https://zwds-calculator.com/chart2?month=1&day=18&year=1987&h=08&m=09&gender=Male&luck_year=2022&gmt=8&long=124.608

    I know someone who has similar chart structure.

    - He is financially dependent on mother, female siblings, female friends and wife. It has to be women, I wonder why.
    - Bad attitude and bad temper, which harm the relationship with his female benefactors.
    - Very bad money management. Lost half of his inheritance in just five years.
    - Dysfunctional marriage, yet doesn't collapse thanks to his wife's resilient money management.

    I think you will do better because you're still single and you have awareness. Therefore more chances to stop the rot and recuperate.

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    « Last Edit: November 15, 2022, 10:25:50 PM by Kirocky18 »

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    « Reply #13 on: November 15, 2022, 11:07:21 PM »
    Thank you very much for your participation, it is really good information 🙏

    - yes, dependent person
    - lost everything
    - bad in relationship
    - lot of fights before 2012, but those fights result recognitions.

    Typically of weak day master with abundant of resource with officer, I think.

    Yes, abundant resource (wood) is further strengthened by a powerful seasonal combo Yin-Mao-Chen. Your earth is basically dead in terms of elemental balance. Earth = your effort and property/immovable asset.

    If extremely strong wood is indeed your problem, your financial condition may improve during autumn LP (age 66 onward) where metal is prosperous and wood is under control: https://bazi-calculator.com/?licz=1&y=1987&m=1&d=18&h=8%3A09&g=8&l=124.8421&lt=1.4748&city1=124.8421%7Cmanado
     
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    - How exactly did you lose your wealth? Did you try to work with your inheritance instead of just living off it?
    - Do you have a career or work with your relatives?

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    « Last Edit: November 15, 2022, 11:27:57 PM by crimsongem »

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  • Re: Looks like Cai Guan Yin chart but with miserable life
    « Reply #14 on: November 15, 2022, 11:34:01 PM »
    Following are excerpts from <<穷通宝鉴>>, one of the 4 authoritative books on BaZi originating in Ming Dynasty.

    First screenshot states that a Daymaster born in winter Chou month is considered strong, with adequate Wood in the Terrestrial Branches. Yin-Mao-Chen combination transforms the Branches into an environment of abundant Wood.

    Second screenshot informs us that when Si Fire appears in the Branches, it is counted as Bing Fire element. So in this case, Si fire is RW.

    If you can't read Chinese, you can verify these excerpts with someone who knows. I don't agree with your passive-aggressive attitude and trying to insinuate insults at people who have different views from you. It is very obvious, and frankly quite childish. People come here with problems and doubts to clarify, you can do better and choose to help them instead.

    When you have credible and valid knowledge to share, please feel free to discuss it like a mature person. Otherwise, throwing hidden insults is not beneficial to anyone.

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    2) Birth Time (as recorded in birth document)
    3) Gender
    4) City of Birth

    Missing info won't be answered.
    Inaccurate details result in wrong readings.

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