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  • Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « on: November 22, 2022, 04:48:06 PM »
    Here’s a chart for the masters to enlighten me on. 🙏🏼

    1988, 26th August,  11.34pm Male

    Yr pillar WU CHEN
    Mth.      GENG SHEN
    Dm.      GUI CHOU
    Hr.        JIA CHEN

    Weak day master, so favourable elements are water & metal? Chart has a lot of water.

    The HS of yr WU, births  HS of mth GENG, births HS of DM GUI, births the HS of hr JIA. So this is a gd chart, I assume. Am I right?

    There’s no DW or IW, so got spouse, we look at REN water?

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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #1 on: November 22, 2022, 05:19:56 PM »
    Where is the birthplace?

    23:34 could be pig or rat hour.

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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #2 on: November 22, 2022, 05:39:46 PM »
    Singapore. It’s rat hour. From what I’ve checked 🙏🏼

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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #3 on: November 22, 2022, 06:57:42 PM »
    For Singapore, I got pig hour on bazi-calculator.com

    One notable sign from rat hour is good, if not great, career luck. He will have authority and reputation in his field of expertise.

    He's less fortunate in relationship/marriage. If he's busy and constantly on the move (traveling), such lifestyle may harm his relationship/marriage further.

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    One notable sign from pig hour is women have a lot of influence over his life (mom, sis, relatives, GFs).

    Bad money management. He can waste a lot of $$ because of gambling, women, friends, and children.

    Good career luck yet the progress is not easy. He may have to quarrel over money.

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    Which one is closer to his life?

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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #4 on: November 22, 2022, 07:13:31 PM »
    Hour: Jia Zi
    Day: Gui Chou
    Month: Geng Shen
    Year: Wu Chen

    Yes, weak Gui daymaster, favorable elements are water, metal, and earth. The earth become favorable due to the protrude of Geng metal, then this earth can birth the resources.

    For weak daymaster male, positive spouse element is self-element, negative spouse element is wealth element.
    For strong daymaster male, positive spouse element is wealth element, negative spouse element is self element.

    This weak Gui daymaster has lot of water roots in the earthly branch. Earthly branch also represent things that is hidden from the public. Shen Zi Chen water frame transformed into water during Gui Hai LP and and this Shen Zi Chen water frame break loose during Jia Zi LP. There is a change in his social circle when he entered the Jia Zi LP. Daymaster can easily access the water in the earthly branch during the Gui Hai LP. This means there is no lack of woman in his social circle during the Gui Hai LP. When entering Jia Zi LP, the water frame break loose and he will feel like something is missing in this Jia Zi LP.

    Output can birth wealth. Negative Jia HO also represent the urge to look for opposite gender for male daymaster and this negative Jia wood is birth by the Zi water, the strengthening negative Jia wood output means his sexual demand can be very strong during this negative Jia Zi fuyin LP. Right now there are a lot of water present in the earthly branch and there is no water protrude in the heaven stem, pair this with the negative Jia Zi hour pillar fuyin with Jia Zi LP, this can indicate that he can have multiple affair happen at the same time and unseen from the public.

    Daymaster sitting on 7k, daring to go after unusual circumstances and love challenging environment. Zi-Chou want to combine but didnt transformed into earth. Zi is water self element and can represent friends. Zi is also one of the peach blossom star and when appear in hour EB, the likelihood to involve in one-night-stand is very high. Red chamber is present in Shen and this red chamber is about love affair. Pair this Zi water with the red chamber from Shen metal in Shen Zi Chen water frame being loose, he will feel like there is a need to fulfil something that is missing and the urge to look for affair is present and very strong during this negative Jia Zi fuyin LP.
    « Last Edit: November 22, 2022, 07:21:41 PM by qingfantasy »

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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #5 on: November 22, 2022, 07:37:50 PM »
    Is this bazi guy, the husband to the wife that you posted in separate post?
     
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    Female, 1989 21st October 19:40
     
    It is a fuyin chart.

    Jia Yin Daymaster in Ding Chou LP.

    Yin wood HHS all are in full combination with Chou HHS.

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    Is the above bazi belong to his wife ?

    Are they husband and wife ?

    « Last Edit: November 22, 2022, 07:40:17 PM by qingfantasy »

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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #6 on: November 22, 2022, 07:53:16 PM »
     Thank you
    Thank you crimsongem. Rat hour is closer. His mom has a lot of influence on him, though the mom is just a house wife with very traditional mindset.  His money management skill is questionable, he doesn’t pay unless u ask him.
    Yes he does travel abit but I think it can be managed with a relationship at the same time. Just that he hasn’t found the right person.

    Thank you Qingfantasy. Is my understanding correct to say, for female weak dm,  self element is positive spouse element too? Negative spouse element for female weak dm is wealth element?

    Yes, there was a change in his social circle. He was with his gf of 10 yrs during the gui hai LP, marriage was short lived. Barely 2 yrs. hasn’t divorced yet, due to housing/age issue.
     He wants wife & family. He’s secretive about his dating life as he is not officially divorced yet. He does feel something is missing, so his focus is career then dating life.

    How is his wealth luck? Since there is no DW & IW in the main chart? We depend on DR & IR instead?


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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #7 on: November 22, 2022, 07:56:16 PM »
    Thank you Qingfantasy. This chart doesn’t belong to the spouse of the fuyin female chart. I will ask u about that chart later! Lol
    Im learning a lot here & am so grateful for ur insight. Im blown away 🙏🏼

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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #8 on: November 22, 2022, 08:18:07 PM »

    Is my understanding correct to say, for female weak dm,  self element is positive spouse element too? Negative spouse element for female weak dm is wealth element?


    No, for female it is different.

    For female weak daymaster, positive spouse is self element, negative spouse is officer element.
    For female strong daymaster, positive spouse is officer element, negative spouse is self element.

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    Lets say, for female strong daymaster, positive spouse is officer element and then we saw a lot of DO and 7k present in the chart, then we need to look for the real husband star.
    We then need to know which year the daymaster is married, then we can determined what element is the daymaster married. It is possible also that the daymaster may married the wrong officer.

    To find the real husband star in female strong daymaster when there are a lot of mixture of DO and 7k, we need to look for element that can birth the officer, wealth is used to birth officer, wealth also represent sexual drive for female. If there is no wealth in the female chart and none at all (no wealth even in HHS), then the marriage is one time or none at all, even though we see lot of DO and 7k inside the chart.

    So when there are a lot of DO and 7k in female strong daymaster chart, we first need to look at the strength of DO vs 7k, then we need to look for the wealth element that is closer to the DO or 7k. The officer that is healthy, less clash/harm/destruct and closer to the wealth is the real husband star.
    « Last Edit: November 22, 2022, 08:43:51 PM by qingfantasy »

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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #9 on: November 22, 2022, 08:19:24 PM »
    Thank you
    Thank you crimsongem. Rat hour is closer. His mom has a lot of influence on him, though the mom is just a house wife with very traditional mindset.  His money management skill is questionable, he doesn’t pay unless u ask him.
    Yes he does travel abit but I think it can be managed with a relationship at the same time. Just that he hasn’t found the right person.

    Rat hour is really good for career and family support. Marriage should be the least important priority. He may not be interested too as he could sense the impending danger and bad luck associated with marriage.

    Pig hour is better for peach blossom luck. Easier to attract and get help from women.

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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #10 on: November 22, 2022, 09:41:46 PM »
    Thank you Qingfantasy. This is new knowledge to me 🙏🏼. Even the presence of DO & 7K present in the chart, w/o DW or IW may also mean that the DM may not marry.

    So, for a weak yi DM, her positive male spouse element is jia wood. Can I also say if the chart owner is a lesbian, her lesbian spouse element is also yi wood? Or we don’t read it like that?

    Thank you Crimsongem, u’re right that he is wary of marriage/ relationship now. Once bitten twice shy. How do u read this fr his chart?
    So he had better dating luck during his gui hai LP.

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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #11 on: November 22, 2022, 10:35:47 PM »
    Thank you Crimsongem, u’re right that he is wary of marriage/ relationship now. Once bitten twice shy. How do u read this fr his chart?
    So he had better dating luck during his gui hai LP.

    It has something to do with Wu-Gui combo, which may produce/strengthen fire. But I'm not sure how it reacts with so much water in the chart + water combo Chen-Zi-Shen/Chou-Zi-Hai. Friends/Robber vs DW/IW usually means wealth taken away, seized by other guys or relationship bleeds our wallet.

    From there, I check with ZWDS to see if I can get better insight.

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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #12 on: November 23, 2022, 02:12:11 AM »
    So, for a weak yi DM, her positive male spouse element is jia wood. Can I also say if the chart owner is a lesbian, her lesbian spouse element is also yi wood? Or we don’t read it like that?

    For female weak daymaster, if the negative officer (DO or 7k) is present in the chart and when the negative officer very strong and have roots in EB, then the husband is dominating the female daymaster. It can also mean that the female will tend to look for affair when the negative officer is pair with strong negative wealth. The strongly rooted negative officer can also indicate that the weak female daymaster may involved with cases like rape or incest when there is punishment in the earthly branch.

    So for female weak daymaster, what we want to see is the strength of the negative officer be rather weak, or we want to see this negative officer meeting the positive resources so that the negative officer can turned into positive self element through the resources. So resource is the key to marriage for weak female daymaster, just like wealth is the key to marriage for strong female daymaster. With resource present and protrude in HS in weak daymaster chart, the negative officer can turned into real husband star (officer birth resource, resource birth self). Previously, we know that wealth is the key to look for real husband star in female strong daymaster. It is the same concept that re-applied for weak female daymaster, just the 10 gods changed.

    When the chart owner is lesbian, we can not read her lesbian spouse element as to yi wood. Homosexual is against the nature. Very likely, the useful god is injured. There may be some damage that happened to the spouse element, or that the resource is getting injured through countering, either the resource is counter by the wealth, or the resource is bully by the output (resource failed to clash the output and is instead being bully back by the output). When you often read lesbian and gay chart, very often you will found out such patterns. It is either the spouse element is damaged, or the spouse palace is being seriously clashed/harmed/destructed, or the useful god is being counter or bullied by the negative elements.
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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #13 on: November 23, 2022, 02:50:56 AM »
    For weak daymaster and when the chart owner is lesbian, we can not read her lesbian spouse element as to yi wood. Homosexual is against the nature. Very likely, the useful god is injured. There may be some damage that happened to the spouse element, or that the resource is getting injured through countering, either the resource is counter by the wealth, or the resource is bully by the output (resource failed to clash the output and is instead being bully back by the output). When you often read lesbian and gay chart, very often you will found out such patterns. It is either the spouse element is damaged, or the spouse palace is being seriously clashed/harmed/punished, or the useful god is being counter or bullied by the negative elements.

    For strong daymaster and when the female is lesbian, it is either the positive spouse element (officer) seriously damaged by strongly rooted output (Hurting officer damaging the officer is way more serious when compared to eating god), or the spouse palace (day EB) seriously harmed/clashed/punished, or the positive wealth element is very weak and countered by a strong rooted negative self stars.

    Edit: Destruction is left out.
    Reason: destruction is not so serious when compared to clash/harm/punishment.
    « Last Edit: November 23, 2022, 03:01:56 AM by qingfantasy »

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  • Re: Chart with no DW & IW. So no wife? Halpppp
    « Reply #14 on: November 23, 2022, 10:56:09 AM »
    Thank you Qingfantasy. I want to add that this chart’s spouse became lesbian. It was very unexpected as she was nvr one. He is her 1st bf since 17, they dated for 10 odd yrs & marry for 2.

    How’s his wealth luck? He’s looking after the family business now.

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