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Title: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on June 10, 2017, 05:55:03 PM
Hi.
Members asked about it, so here we go.
This was made for me and a few more people, then was adjusted for a project in my country.
I will leave the translation in there, don't see a reason to remove it(means we can switch from English to Bulgarian interface and tooltips).
It does exists in other ways, with somewhat different functions and another name(since I'm not Gmuli everywhere).
Since it was learning tool at start there is a lot of tooltip information on every aspect of it(branches, lines, animals,Ti and Yong etc.)

(https://s6.postimg.org/eoirymbq9/Example.png)


So what can it do?

If someone doesn't like specific function feel free not to use it. Since this time around this is something that I have worked a lot on, and work a lot with, and since I'm uploading it free for the forum there won't be updates based on what people prefer as before with the BaZi app.
 I've been using it for a long time so I'm a lot more reluctant to make changes here and I'm not sure I would have uploaded it if someone didn't ask about that.
If people really needs specific function I can look into it, but no promises, since implementing everything people can use in a WWG app, can be just too much and right now it has all that I'm using with a very small exceptions that were disabled for this specific version.

How to use...
Few different ways.
First way.
Click lower Trigram from the earlier heaven Arrangement lower left corner.
Choose Higher Trigram from the later Heaven Arrangement in the higher left corner.
Click the Changing lines between the 2 Hexagrams.
Select the Day of asking and adjust if you need(if it's around 0 a clock or between Solar Term changes etc. most of the time just leave like it is).

Alternative way 1.
Choose Hexagram from the menu below, based on the number.
Click changing lines between the 2 Hexagrams.

Alternative way 2.
Think of a question.
Click Generate.
As I explained above, this has been tested a lot and so far have worked flawlessly for hundreds of examples.

Potential problems that I know of... Hidden Lines may still have problems, though it should work very well most of the time.
Fonts and elements may get messed up if you resize the app a few times. If it happens just restart it.
If you find bugs in it, probably related to hidden lines, post here. For bugs I will try to fix in future version, as I said no promises on other functions or change of UI/Colors etc. since this is the way I actually want it to be.

Have fun and hopefully people can find it as useful as we did.

Link is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=1 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=1)
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on July 07, 2017, 12:49:06 AM
I added the 12 deities from ArtofFugue translation.
http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14714.msg164973;topicseen#msg164973 (http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14714.msg164973;topicseen#msg164973)


It seems good idea to post the code too, to help if someone is working on similar project. That way  they can add it too, with just small modifications depending on their programming language of choice.

Won't add the part with the tooltips, since that is very specific to VB Net, rest is here.
So how it works...

The function:
Assign12Deities()
Will recalculate the 12 deities based on the day stem, so it has to run from everywhere where there is change of day stem or branches.
In the present app, we add calls to it from the Calendar, from the function that recalculates the branches and from the combobox where the Day Stem can be manually selected.

What we need:
OBranch() array with the number of branches for the original hexagram.
Combo boxes(6 of them) for where we write the names of the deities.
Array with the names for each language that will have them.
Here that would just be:
Quote
The12Deities(1) = "Grand Duke"
        The12Deities(2) = "Green Dragon"
        The12Deities(3) = "Funeral Door"
        The12Deities(4) = "Six Combination"
        The12Deities(5) = "Official Amulet"
        The12Deities(6) = "Small Deplete"
        The12Deities(7) = "Big Deplete"
        The12Deities(8) = "Red Phoenix"
        The12Deities(9) = "White Tiger"
        The12Deities(10) = "Noble Deity"
        The12Deities(11) = "Funeral Guest"
        The12Deities(12) = "Sickness Amulet"

Whole procedure for assigning the deities is just assigning the function that calculates them to the labels:

Quote
Sub Assign12Deities()       
        TwelveDeities6Label.Text = Check12Deitie(OBranches(6))
        TwelveDeities5Label.Text = Check12Deitie(OBranches(5))
        TwelveDeities4Label.Text = Check12Deitie(OBranches(4))
        TwelveDeities3Label.Text = Check12Deitie(OBranches(3))
        TwelveDeities2Label.Text = Check12Deitie(OBranches(2))
        TwelveDeities1Label.Text = Check12Deitie(OBranches(1))

    End Sub

The function that does it all is here:

Quote
Function Check12Deitie(BranchNumber As Integer)

        Dim startingbranch As Integer 'make local variable to deal with the starting branch       
        If DayStemNumber = 1 Then startingbranch = 3
        If DayStemNumber = 2 Then startingbranch = 4
        If DayStemNumber = 3 Then startingbranch = 6
        If DayStemNumber = 4 Then startingbranch = 7
        If DayStemNumber = 5 Then startingbranch = 11
        If DayStemNumber = 6 Then startingbranch = 2
        If DayStemNumber = 7 Then startingbranch = 9
        If DayStemNumber = 8 Then startingbranch = 10
        If DayStemNumber = 9 Then startingbranch = 12
        If DayStemNumber = 10 Then startingbranch = 1

        For checkbranch As Integer = 1 To 12 ' assign the gods one by one depending on branch
            If BranchNumber = startingbranch Then
                Check12Deitie = The12Deities(checkbranch) 'we have variable with array of all gods


            End If
            startingbranch = startingbranch + 1
            If startingbranch > 12 Then startingbranch = startingbranch - 12

        Next

    End Function

Tell me if you see bugs in it, haven't tested it a lot, just added the example from topic.

(https://s4.postimg.org/wq5hqd1cd/v12.png)
Gmuli's WWG Calculator v.1.2
Changes:
*Added 12 Deities

Download:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vozova4gekryz6g/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/vozova4gekryz6g/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0)
(old links are deleted as usual)

Since I just made it you may get warning that file isn't commonly downloaded, so may have viruses. Up to you if you want to risk it, because it isn't commonly downloaded. : )
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on July 19, 2017, 10:42:36 PM
*Fixed wrong Generation/Ti and Yong for Hexagram 11
*Added the extra Hexagram Types from the blind schools for both, first and second Hexagrams from ArtofFugues translation.


Link is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/47mzzhkjy1ig79k/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/47mzzhkjy1ig79k/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0)
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on July 20, 2017, 02:41:06 AM
Added a line for question, so it can show in the Image, link is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0)
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Silent on July 30, 2017, 11:44:57 PM
Added a line for question, so it can show in the Image, link is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0)

Thanks for the app. Hopefully able to try and learn :)
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: wishingstar on August 07, 2017, 11:36:25 PM
This is fabulous, I could definitely use all those information as I want to study them closely myself as well. However, is it just me...? Or it kept saying 404 error - link has been disabled or someone removed the file, etc.. so I can't really download it or anything to check it out. :(


[edit]

oops... I was able to access it now - didn't know you need to register and login first - when I did, I was able to access it. Off to see this wonderful goodness now, thanks again!

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Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on August 08, 2017, 01:33:44 AM
This is fabulous, I could definitely use all those information as I want to study them closely myself as well. However, is it just me...? Or it kept saying 404 error - link has been disabled or someone removed the file, etc.. so I can't really download it or anything to check it out. :(


[edit]

oops... I was able to access it now - didn't know you need to register and login first - when I did, I was able to access it. Off to see this wonderful goodness now, thanks again!

[/edit]

Thanks, by the way, we can download it without account and login, but the option is a little hard to see.

So when we click link it should show this:

(https://s1.postimg.org/x5zyu1zyn/Drop_Box.png)

The line with
"No thanks, continue to view"
Is what we can use to download without login, the problem is when we open it initially, that line won't be there, we need to scroll down.

In any case, I'm happy people find it useful. : )

Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: ArtofFugue on August 24, 2017, 05:23:25 PM
Suggestion: You can also add 28 Constellations to your Six Lines divination software.

http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=13712.0


edit: I may translate it someday when I'm free....
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on August 24, 2017, 06:07:02 PM
Suggestion: You can also add 28 Constellations to your Six Lines divination software.

http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=13712.0

I think I may move the updates of the software(and the bazi one) to a blog or something...
Lots of reasons, one is that there are too many programs now(just made the Solar Time adjustment app a little more user friendly and still in development for the ZWDS one, someday may look at the QMDJ one too etc.)

The idea is to  keep them free but will also set option for donations if someone wants to support the project. If there is support can focus more on that, if not just won't update them a lot (or at least that is the idea).
While if there is no interest at all will just close it later, but at least will be clear where to go from there.

That won't happen right away, but I will have to start thinking of removing some of the stuff that is exclusive to the forum or that seems to be proprietary for systems/techniques out there.
Stuff like MC is in the classics, but the Images for example seem to be very specific, so will replace them with something else... Sad, because as I said I like them a lot, but no way around it if the app has to keep developing..
In that same case 12 deities from the app will have to go too, already replaced them with Stems, may add more way of calculating stems later, if someone really needs, for me this way is the only one I need...

If the deities or images start to show up more in the net can add them back, by then it would be public domain,  however right now just with 1 post in forum I'm not sure we can say it is, so they stay exclusive in the text the post was translated from.

Overall all that can be seen as exclusive to a modern author or book may need to go...
While it was just for the forum didn't matter a lot, but if it moves outside of here will need to keep it clean of stuff that is exclusive to a author or a book, to respect the authors out there.

I won't delete the links here, so nothing will change in the topics already, but updates will be moved there probably...

I don't know when, though...
But in any case, from now on can add only things that won't have problem with being exclusive to a book and from the topic there I get the impression that isn't how it is there(and also thing that are exclusive to a forum):

Quote
recently but have no time/rights to type out contents of the book

So open to add anything that is common knowledge or is used in classic texts... Specific technique for a school or book that can't be found on the net I will avoid, so there aren't problems with the original source(why would someone buy/read the book if all the calculations are already in the free app).

With time will find the way to work with this in a way that everyone is more or less happy, if the project sustain itself at all, for start will have to remove deities and images, and can't add this too for the same reason.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: ArtofFugue on August 24, 2017, 06:26:18 PM
@Gmuli : Up to your discretion to add or remove anything.

But nobody uses stems in Six Lines, even in the chinese texts I studied. Except for those 2 case studies that came with the Images of Melodic Elements (http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14593.msg164733#msg164733). I only translated that for info sake. I don't even use it myself.

So kind of strange to add stems..... Just my comment. :-X
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on August 24, 2017, 06:49:33 PM
@Gmuli : Up to your discretion to add or remove anything.

But nobody uses stems in Six Lines, even in the chinese texts I studied. Except for those 2 case studies that came with the Images of Melodic Elements (http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14593.msg164733#msg164733). I only translated that for info sake. I don't even use it myself.

So kind of strange to add stems..... Just my comment. :-X

If we look how the void branches are actually calculated they are the only 2 branches that don't have stems on top of them based on day pillar, sometimes on year depending on the system(in bazi, qmdj etc. in all systems that use void branches even in WWG).

Since we use void branches a lot, we already use stems, but for some reason only for calculating this 2 branches...
However exactly the same logic can be used for all the other branches, they already have stems assign on them in the same sequence, only we aren't displaying it usually(writing etc.).

 If we add the other stems calculated in the same way it can give a little more detail... it's very short term(since in less then 10 days with the void branches that changes too), but for me sometimes can be very helpful.
And often it doesn't change much, since the branches already give more then the needed info.

I don't think it is needed, it hasn't changed the result of any reading so far, since branches by definition are long term, but some extra info can be nice at times and since we already use that stem arrangement when we calculate the void branches, makes sense to add it visually too... Not very important, but sometimes can explain details that are just not there in other ways.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: ArtofFugue on August 24, 2017, 07:27:27 PM
Some practitioners used the stem-branch pair as occurrence date but there are other ways of deriving occurrence date.

Not sure of the stem's usage other than Melodic element's image and occurrence date.

Again, up to your own discretion. Use what works for you.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on October 31, 2017, 05:31:42 AM
Here are the changes. I think right now even people that aren't familiar with WWG can start to use it with some success, although will need some adjustment.

Almost all mention changes here will be in the Menu, to access it click Alt once its started(or click the line at upper part of the window).

Hexagram from situation:
(https://s6.postimg.org/7bubnh835/New_Ver1.png)

This allows to make hexagram from situation. So for that you need Ti and Yong, that usually goes Who is doing the activity(Ti) and on what(Yong). Then choose hour and it will calculate all.
Images for this were mostly from the 8 Wing of Yi Jing, some modern ones were from The Tao of I Ching: Way to Divination by Tsung Hwa Jou and very few were from other sources.

Hexagram by time/number.
(https://s6.postimg.org/odikbx5b5/New_Ver2.png)
This creates hexagram based on time or random number.  It also shows each step, so people can use it to learn how to do it themselves as well.

(https://s6.postimg.org/wvs0g9441/New_Ver3.png)
This option allows so to save/load previously asked questions. As soon as we add one it will create text file with the name of the Category we save it for. So if we switch to Relationships for example, it will create Relationships.txt in same folder/directory the app itself is.


I removed the Question field, since now we can save directly in the app adding name and notes. Can't use "," in notes, though, just letters and numbers and backspace. I can make it accept more input, but can't accept "," the way it is made now.

(https://s6.postimg.org/aju7mvs5d/New_Ver4.png)
Have created info screen for each line. We can click on it and it will show relations to all lines from original hexagram and day/month on it. That is only potential, what will actually apply depends on other conditions(more on that below).


It will also show the strength of the line. That is based only on the Month. So if it combines with the month too, you may want to keep in mind, line will actually be strong, even though it may show it's weak(it will show that it combines below at the part of the month).

The last part (on the image that would be - PASSIVE LINE), that uses rules to calculate if the line can actually make/initiate any of the interactions that it will show above. Since all that is just potential.
It uses mostly Jack Chiu's rules, in his book it seems that this rules are what is accepted and it works for me.
I have added some things that Puppylove was using and adjusted a little some stuff that seems to work for me different in practice, but in general most of them would be from the book.

Added body of hexagram, it's somewhere near the Palaces and other things.

Link is the same as before:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0)

Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on November 10, 2017, 05:18:55 AM
*Added the blindsect branch to lines arrangment from ArtofFugue translation here:
http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14502.msg172297#new (http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14502.msg172297#new)

It's in the menu. There is option to allow their stem use as well, keep in mind if you haven't switch to the branches first it won't show anything.
All of it is in "View" menu.
View> Branches for the branches > Blindsect
View>Additional Info on Lines> Stems(Based on blindsect)

Link is the same as before:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0)

Saved the naming convention "blindsect"  or "blindman sect" as ArtofFugue used it, since I had to name it something...

P.S. That doesn't affect the hidden lines calculations, so they won't be accurate while using it, right now.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: voglee on November 10, 2017, 03:49:30 PM
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Dear @Gmuli  hi ....

.. very useful your calculator concerning Blind sect ...you offering ... thanks for this valuable work ... !!
I want to mention on this calculator that when  plotting on Blind sect ... there is an inconvenience on the produced Hexagram's Earthy Branches (.. not changed on Blind sect arrangement of branches)... you can fix it please ?
Can you add Na Yin melodic elements on lines of the hexagrams ??.. this could make your work near perfect .. !!

Thank you with your work anyway ...
@voglee
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on November 10, 2017, 11:25:25 PM
Fixed the resulting hexagram, shows the other branches now as well.
Na Yin will show up when we mouse over the stems, that will be active if we are on blindsect branches and stems.

Looks like this:
(https://s33.postimg.org/oeh1nzxz3/Na_Yin.png)

Link as same as before.

In near will  make a few posts to clarify how to use some parts of the app, not sure when.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on November 11, 2017, 10:17:57 PM
Members asked for some documentation or how to use...
While documentation is good idea, if someone doesn't have knowledge about any form of Yi Jing, it just can't work.

App is made in a way that it will lend support in many situations... For example line falls into it's own Tomb after change... But similar to Puppylove scotland example based on the month that may not be a deal breaker for it... That is implemented for example... But what about if it is very supported by the day?
Or very strong form other lines?

All this has to be decided based on our experience in reading and how much strength we give each factor. The app can't do it for us, it is just a support tool if some interaction is overlooked or is forgotten.

But the reading has to be from human being, it is too complicated when we get into the details(most of the time anyway), to be possible to skip that part.

For general stuff - does our line(Ti most o fthe time) is clashed or weaken by day/month it can work for everyone, but if we want to get deeper then that we need a lot more then the app.

However if we have some knowledge about Liu Yao and we want to use the app, here are some helpful tips.

Will cover here how to set the Hexagram. This is middle part, we need to ask a question first, and we read the hexagram last. Setting it into the calculator is what will be used most often, since not always it is our questions we will be reading(forums/books etc.
And there will be people that would use translation of Zhouyi and the wings, and not reading lines/trigrams.

So this is the part that all will need.
In the future I may post something about how to read it, there are some things that are worth noting, however it won't cover full readings since that will need books, it will just cover priority of interactions, for example if you want to see if hidden line is active, you have to click the hidden line, not the original line. Even though the original will not be active if the hidden one is. Things like that specific to the apps way of showing.


Lets go into how to set Hexagram in the app.
There are a few ways, based on the way we want and the situation.
The idea is that the Hexagram shows map of the situation we ask about, with all influences and relations we need to know about to know what will happen.
To get that map in the app we can use the following ways:


Random Generated Hexagram:
Probably the simplest and fastest to make. Think of a question and hit the generate button. It will try to generate random hexagram(as random as possible, still a lot more random then making from the clock as Mei Hua does).
If we see the math involved it is very similar to how it would work with trowing coins.
After years of use and hundreds of questions this way works very well for me and people around me even for complicated and messy situations.

(https://s33.postimg.org/q72hw1amn/Generate_Hexagram_How_To1.png)


Input Hexagram Method 1
Lets say we don't want to use programming languages "randomness". We can use coins/yarrow stalks or other ways to come up with the hexagram. Then we can input it in the app to see branches/family relations etc.

To do that we can use Method 1.
1.This is we click the Upper Trigram in the later heaven trigrams/number up right.
2.Click the lower Trigram at the earlier heaven trigrams/number to set the lower one in the lower left corner of the app.
3. Click on each changing line until it becomes arrow.

4.If the day of asking was different can change the day(explained below).

(https://s33.postimg.org/3wj8a4fof/2_Generate_Hexagram_How_To.png)
(https://s33.postimg.org/ishrhroj3/3_Generate_Hexagram_How_To.png)
(https://s33.postimg.org/s09zym0rz/4_Generate_Hexagram_How_To.png)


This method also works for hexagrams in topics or books/articles. As long as we can see the lines and the changing lines, we can click upper 3 and lower 3 and the changing lines one by one and will have same thing as what is used in the topic/book/article.

Input Hexagram Method 2
There are times when in forums people don't really write the whole hexagram. They just post, for example 64.5. That would mean it is 64th hexagram and changing line is 5.

To input that and see the situation they were asking about, we can use the alternative method to input hexagram.

1.Below the original hexagram we click the arrow down and select the number(64 in this case).
2.Again we click the changing lines one by one until they become red arrows.
3.As in the situations above if the day of asking was different can change the day(explained below).


(https://s33.postimg.org/dv46wpjzz/5_Generate_Hexagram_How_To.png)




Create Hexagram from Numbers/Time

This is usually used in Mei Hua. Since we have to preserve the calculations changing lines will always be only one.

For that we click Alt to show up the menu(or click the label saying that) then we go
Generate > Make Hexagram from Time

(https://s33.postimg.org/qb0wq0q27/6_Generate_Hexagram_How_To.png)

In the next screen we have 2 approaches.
If we have 2 numbers we set first one|(or first half of a bigger number) in the first textbox up right, then second one in lower one. That will calculate everything we need.

So what we do...

1.Add first number.
2.Add second number.
3.Click the add button to make the Hexagram.

That makes all the calculations needed. They are shown if someone wants to learn the process. Then click add. Changing line will always be 1.

(https://s33.postimg.org/ezy91voen/8_Generate_Hexagram_How_To.png)


Create Hexagram from Numbers/Time
Creating hexagram from time is in very similar way.
We click the time selector and select the time(it will take Hours and Minutes, as the Mei Hua approach is). Then click add to add it to the calculator. Changing line will always be 1.
(https://s33.postimg.org/ulfklxv8v/9_Generate_Hexagram_How_To.png)



Create Hexagram from Situation
Alt > Generate > Create Hexagram from Situation
(https://s18.postimg.org/s6ktbxrgp/10_Generate_Hexagram_How_To.png)

Now, we click upper option. That allows us to select Ti(who is doing the activity).
Lets take the example form ArtofFugue translation before.
Old man going southwest at specific hour is triggering feeling that there is more to it.

1.Click the upper option.
2.Click on the Lower Right corner, to select old man(55+ male).
3.Now click lower option to select on what is the activity done.

This time it is done on direction, southwest.
4.Click Kun as Southwest.
5.Add the hour that this happened, it will calculate it using the branches, not same as the calculations in Time/Number, but this is the way used in the classic text and this is what works for me so far.
(https://s18.postimg.org/6lfqo2und/11_Generate_Hexagram_How_To.png)

That should cover few different ways to input hexagrams.
When we get to the readings we have many, many examples around the forum, and some terms like Ti and Yong there is much info in books and the net... This aren't things we can cover in "how to" from an app, this needs dedication and time to learn in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: ognyanv on November 12, 2017, 09:50:24 PM
An excellent effort, thanks to the author of the software!
A small note - another English language source is the Wen Wang correspondence course of Mr. Joseph Yu, which may be complementary in a useful way. Though there seem to be some differences in calculation methodology.

*Added the blindsect branch to lines arrangment from ArtofFugue translation here:
http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14502.msg172297#new (http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14502.msg172297#new)

It's in the menu. There is option to allow their stem use as well, keep in mind if you haven't switch to the branches first it won't show anything.
All of it is in "View" menu.
View> Branches for the branches > Blindsect
View>Additional Info on Lines> Stems(Based on blindsect)

Link is the same as before:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0)

Saved the naming convention "blindsect"  or "blindman sect" as ArtofFugue used it, since I had to name it something...

P.S. That doesn't affect the hidden lines calculations, so they won't be accurate while using it, right now.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on November 13, 2017, 12:26:43 AM
Do you mean the familiar relations based on their own hexagram and not on the original one?



Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: ognyanv on November 13, 2017, 12:47:26 AM
Do you mean the familiar relations based on their own hexagram and not on the original one?

As far as I know, Joseph Yu uses the Six Relationships for the resulting hexagram as they are originally linked to the lines of the hexagram. However, I came to know by Harmen Mesker the correct way is to use the Five Elements from the first hexagram, and use these to label the Six Relationships in the resulting hexagram. So, if for instance Earth is Brother in the first hexagram then Earth is also Brother in the resulting hexagram. Based on my experience with his advice, I have reasons to trust him.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on November 13, 2017, 02:25:56 AM
I wanted to add it since the Ren's topic about the 4p app... Now seems a good time.
Updated verison is uploaded, it is in View > Branches> Separate

As usual link is the same.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=0)


Since I posted the above post with the explanations about Hexagrams and how to add them, I also  added help menu. It will open the post above from this topic with the explanation for generating/input of hexagrams in the default browser.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on January 10, 2018, 03:42:20 AM
Was just testing something...Can't delete post, though.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on January 20, 2018, 08:15:36 PM
Seems like it is time for update. : )

Symbolic stars from ArtofFugues topic here were added, also some other info.
http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=15297.0 (http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=15297.0)

So what we have now:

First thing is we have 2 alternative Mei Hua screens now.



Mei Hua Screen
We can access them by hitting CTRL.
Alternative way would be Menu > View > Main Screen > Mei Hua

First time we hit it will show this:

(https://s6.postimg.org/fn7fexvg1/Mei_Hua_1.png)


Most people probably won't be using the horizontal arrows, but long time ago I used that too, so wanted to add it.
In here if we press A or go to Menu > Mei Hua Details > Arrows for Yin/Yang it will show arrows, up for Yang trigrams, down for Yin trigrams.

(https://s6.postimg.org/7hpdgrrrl/Mei_Hua_1.1.png)

Here we can see the middle hexagram as well. Since not everyone uses that, we have one more screen where it shows only original and result hexagram.

To access that we either use CTRL one more time or we go to Menu>Mei Hua Details > 2 Hexagrams.

(https://s6.postimg.org/i4j6m77mp/Mei_Hua_2.png)

Additional Notes:





Symbolic Stars

A few different ways to see this. We can see all of them or we can see only the ones that show up connected to specific line(usually branch).

To see all of them we can go to View > Symbolic Stars
Then click on any star to see more.

(https://s6.postimg.org/c4vfi9zm9/Symbolic_Stars.png)

Up on the screen it will calculate branches/stems that this applies to.

More useful way to see it would be to use it from the lines.
We right click the line and choose Symbolic Star for the line:

(https://s6.postimg.org/7hpdgrcc1/Right_Click.png)

Now, this will show same screen as the full listing of the stars, only this time it will only list the stars that apply to that line. There are usually 7-8 stars for each line.



That should cover the most important changes.
There are some bug fixes also and some other stuff around.

Thats it, enjoy! : )
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: ArtofFugue on January 20, 2018, 09:32:31 PM
@Gmuli : An applause for your tremendous effort to make this very professional and complete app! Not only it has 12 Deities (which most Six Lines apps don't have), it also has symbolic stars (which most apps don't have too!).

Your app is beyond professional level!

A little suggestion: Group the stars according to category and allow people the option to select a category related to their question. So that people won't be confused over so many stars.

Eg; Career, Wealth, Romance, Health, Legal, Missing item, etc.


edit: Common Six Lines apps have symbolic stars but only a few.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: ognyanv on January 20, 2018, 09:55:44 PM
An excellent contribution, special thanks and respect to the author for the outstanding apps, some are even unique among other similar pieces of software ! His messages and my personal exchange with him show profound understanding even of some most intricate points. Let us wish him keep the good job ongoing!

Seems like it is time for update. : )

Symbolic stars from ArtofFugues topic here were added, also some other info.
http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=15297.0 (http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=15297.0)

So what we have now:
  • Added Symbolic Stars
  • Added Mei Hua Alternative Screens
  • Some bug fixes and other stuff

First thing is we have 2 alternative Mei Hua screens now.



Mei Hua Screen
We can access them by hitting CTRL.
Alternative way would be Menu > View > Main Screen > Mei Hua

First time we hit it will show this:

(https://s6.postimg.org/fn7fexvg1/Mei_Hua_1.png)


Most people probably won't be using the horizontal arrows, but long time ago I used that too, so wanted to add it.
In here if we press A or go to Menu > Mei Hua Details > Arrows for Yin/Yang it will show arrows, up for Yang trigrams, down for Yin trigrams.

(https://s6.postimg.org/7hpdgrrrl/Mei_Hua_1.1.png)

Here we can see the middle hexagram as well. Since not everyone uses that, we have one more screen where it shows only original and result hexagram.

To access that we either use CTRL one more time or we go to Menu>Mei Hua Details > 2 Hexagrams.

(https://s6.postimg.org/i4j6m77mp/Mei_Hua_2.png)

Additional Notes:
  • App will try to see if there is only one changing line. If that is the case it will assign Ti on the Trigram that doesn't change and Yong on the other one. That won't work if there is more then one or less then one.
  • If we click any trigram it will show more info on the left as usual. That will include strength of the Trigram in the season, something most Mei Hua practitioners may find useful. : )
  • Option in Menu > Mei Hua Details will only show up if the Mei Hua screens are active, any of them.





Symbolic Stars

A few different ways to see this. We can see all of them or we can see only the ones that show up connected to specific line(usually branch).

To see all of them we can go to View > Symbolic Stars
Then click on any star to see more.

(https://s6.postimg.org/c4vfi9zm9/Symbolic_Stars.png)

Up on the screen it will calculate branches/stems that this applies to.

More useful way to see it would be to use it from the lines.
We right click the line and choose Symbolic Star for the line:

(https://s6.postimg.org/7hpdgrcc1/Right_Click.png)

Now, this will show same screen as the full listing of the stars, only this time it will only list the stars that apply to that line. There are usually 7-8 stars for each line.



That should cover the most important changes.
There are some bug fixes also and some other stuff around.

Thats it, enjoy! : )
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on January 20, 2018, 10:51:36 PM
Thanks !

Quote
Eg; Career, Wealth, Romance, Health, Legal, Missing item, etc.

I don't know what stars fall in what category.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: ArtofFugue on January 21, 2018, 11:19:55 AM
Thanks !

I don't know what stars fall in what category.

Try to infer from the stars' description and interpretation.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: 1eleven on January 21, 2018, 06:27:04 PM
I don’t know if this have been mentioned already but this works well on a Mac with the Wine app!  This is great.

I couldn’t get the Bazi app to open - not sure why. 

Thanks.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on January 21, 2018, 08:44:45 PM
1eleven:
Old versions of Wine had problems with random generated numbers. For example if you open it 2 times and hit Generate they may show up exactly the same sequence of hexagrams each run.
So I would advice to avoid the "generate" part of the app(the button that generates random hexagrams) if you are running it with Wine. I'm very happy how that part works for win, since it simulates coins, but just not when it goes through Wine.

Everything else should work I think, but this will have issues.
Can make hexagram in more traditional way(coins, vegetation etc), or based on hour/situations etc. and just input it after.



BaZi app probably doesn't work on Wine because of the "real solar time" convert... Something in the math there messes it up.
I can make version without it, but if you don't need stable/unstable, extra pillars or few images that can be seen around the forum as well, you can just use bazi-calculator.com (http://bazi-calculator.com) or similar website. It covers a lot more.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on January 24, 2018, 01:30:05 AM
Few additions...

First to clarify...

Also a little update on the visual part of the app.

Now, there is option to hide the lines of second hexagram that aren't used.

We can turn it on from
View> Hide Inactive Lines
or with Alt+W shortcut.

Looks like this:
(https://s6.postimg.org/grt7ve641/Hiding_Lines.png)

Can be turned on and off with hotkey and menu.
It will work for any branch system we use, so blindsect branches or the Yus system where they are calculated by the second hexagram, all that can still be used with this, since this is just visual on top of all others.

It does make it more cleaner to read I guess... Although can't imagine using it a lot...
Anyway, can be useful I guess...

Title: Re: Super I Ching
Post by: Gmuli on January 25, 2018, 03:38:24 AM
Was thinking lately about Super I Ching...
Site was made 2001, so that is... 17 years ago?
Whole book is free that is impressive in todays world when it comes to five arts, combined with the fact we have members that use and like it, it seems fair to acknowledge it a little more.

So here is Super I Ching branches/relations/animals for the calculator app.
It is in View> Branches> Super I Ching
Enjoy! : )
(https://s6.postimg.org/otztwcxv5/super_i_ching_app_example.png)
(it also includes the Colors on the place of the animals we use)

Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Axis on January 25, 2018, 04:27:03 AM
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Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on January 25, 2018, 04:46:11 AM
Hi.
Link is still the same at(as it was last few posts):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=1 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=1)

Hopefully @Administrator  will change the link in first post as well, so new members have easier time downloading the app. : )
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on February 09, 2018, 01:54:41 AM
Update to fix and add some stuff!
Some of the changes:


in View > Additional Info on Lines we can control what info shows on the right of the branches/relations.
(https://s6.postimg.org/x73q8vyc1/image.png)


(https://s6.postimg.org/gjc86g10h/image.png)


When Super I Ching is turned on Empty/Void dates are adjusted to Alex Chiu's way of calculating them. So that means that when Super I Chign is switched on it will count Jia days in the Super I Ching way... It will be working like that only when Super i Ching is on.


All of the options have hotkeys now.


Added Super I Ching terminology for void branches, day and month pillar and hidden lines.
Since the other hidden lines won't change for ppl that want to use Super I Ching mode, just enable hidden lines from Additional Info on Lines and it will show Alex way, looks like this:


(https://s6.postimg.org/nb2n9608x/image.png)



With this I think we have all Super I Ching features and different ways of calculating.

So to be clear, what is the approach to calculate it fully in Super I Ching way.
We start calculator.
Click Alt or Menu button.
View> Branches > Super I Ching(or Alt+F4)
View>Additional Info on Lines > Hidden Lines(or Ctrl+F5)

That should show it exactly as it is in Alex site I think. Only the hidden lines are on the right and not on the left.




Another thing is alternate way to post in forums or save image from the calculator, since the whole screen is too big.

For that now we have Print View(its in File > Print View).
That will give another shorter view that can also work with any type of system that the calculator support.

Looks like this with Super I Ching terminology, it can also work with normal one:

(https://s6.postimg.org/co8u3r7j5/image.png)

There is save image button there too, it won't show on the Image.


Changing different branches displaying it will change what will show up here as well. So it can be used with traditional terminology as we can see here:
(https://s6.postimg.org/6ajr0iacx/image.png)




Last thing is mostly for forums. Since uploading image can be slow and uncomfortable, now we will have option where the calc will create string that can be post in forums. Depending on their editor some arranging may be needed, but should be easy with few times space here and there. And in some places will work right away.

File>Copy for Forums
Looks like this:
Quote
  Yong ▅▅▅▅▅Si-Fire(Sibling)                    ▅▅▅▅▅Xu+Earth(Child)
         ▅▅ ▅▅Wei-Earth(Child)     >>>>>   ▅▅▅▅▅Shen+Metal(Asset)
         ▅▅▅▅▅You-Metal(Asset)                  ▅▅▅▅▅Wu+Fire(Sibling)
       Ti▅▅ ▅▅Wu+Fire(Sibling)                  ▅▅ ▅▅Wu+Fire(Sibling)
         ▅▅▅▅▅Chen+Earth(Child)                ▅▅▅▅▅Chen+Earth(Child)
         ▅▅ ▅▅Yin+Wood(Parent)                ▅▅ ▅▅Yin+Wood(Parent)
Day Pillar: 8.Xin/8.Wei Goat ,Month Pillar: 1.Jia/3.Yin Tiger, Date:2/8/2018 6:03:20 PM
64.Wei Chi Before Completion >>>> 6.Sung Conflict
Hidden Line: Line 3 Hai(Officer)

(editor here have some autoformating function that moves it around, in normal text editor it will show without problems with the position of the lines).




I think maybe some more visual way of showing what part of the View Menu works with what part of the app could be helpful:

(https://s6.postimg.org/ddrmgdnkx/image.png)
(https://s6.postimg.org/ki9fp6hwx/image.png)



Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: princessjean on February 09, 2018, 03:30:08 AM
cant get the calculator
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on February 09, 2018, 03:33:56 AM
What is stopping you?   ???
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: princessjean on February 09, 2018, 04:46:42 AM
error
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on February 09, 2018, 04:56:29 AM
What error?
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: princessjean on February 09, 2018, 05:07:48 AM
nothing show and said error
i dont know how to use dropbox -- but i open up and nothing
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on February 09, 2018, 05:32:16 AM
Try this link, it shouldn't open anything should download right away:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=1 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1n4g1ili2qcazk/Gmuli%20WWG%20Calculator.exe?dl=1)
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: princessjean on February 09, 2018, 05:52:25 AM
its make me load again or ask me to open dropbox acc i dont  want to open
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: princessjean on February 09, 2018, 05:53:44 AM
missing something in computer that i cant open?
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on February 09, 2018, 06:19:11 AM
No, you don't need anything, I would guess something in your browser is blocking it(like addon or something).

May be a good idea to have alternative link, so try this:
https://mega.nz/#!gAhCjYbT!YrGnXVrdNO8pz3kLi-b87d7QMIIf7_k7CJeX-Yfsr7k (https://mega.nz/#!gAhCjYbT!YrGnXVrdNO8pz3kLi-b87d7QMIIf7_k7CJeX-Yfsr7k)

If this doesn't work as well then I have no idea.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: princessjean on February 09, 2018, 06:57:55 AM
load but not open cant open --the add on block is not blocked ---
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: princessjean on February 09, 2018, 07:01:24 AM
i guess install dropbox--- ::)
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on February 09, 2018, 07:11:58 AM
What system/device you are working with if you know?
Like browser and OS(for example chrome/windows 7, or firefox/android etc)

Because if you are on phone/tablet with android it won't run anyway, it's just for PC.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: princessjean on February 09, 2018, 07:37:08 AM
im on windows 8?8.1?

use chrome

i download dropbox and load in the calculator

i get the calculator--- good to see the s-iching i been using alex iching since 2006


 8) cool calculator

Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on February 09, 2018, 07:43:44 AM
Thanks, Im glad it worked out. : )
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: sleepyfreud on February 09, 2018, 07:49:02 AM
Thank you. Superb software. Now I do not have to switch from Hao Jiang's script to your calculator. Your program has more features.

I will try casting on some elections. They usually are one on one, like ball games.


sleepyfreud
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on February 09, 2018, 08:08:01 AM
thanks : )
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on February 21, 2018, 09:24:34 PM
*Added Nayin for Day/Month pillars, since apperantly Wild Crane are using them.
*Some fixes on Print View resize

Link is same as always.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on February 23, 2018, 11:44:25 PM
I added something that can be useful for everyone, but it is even more useful when working with the Super I Ching material, in my humble opinion(at least it is for me). That can also solve the problem where we need to go back to Liu Yao screen and back to Mei Hua adding lines.


Liu Yao/Mei Hua traditional screens
Now, when we press F4 or we go to:
Generate > Hexagram(By Number)

There is input screen opening up.
(https://s17.postimg.org/6zqottgdr/hexagramselector.png)

Here we can write a number of hexagram and it will switch to that one resetting all changing lines.

However it is capable of a few more things.
One is that if we write changing lines with dots after that it will add them as well.
So if we write
64.1.3.5 it will switch to hexagram 64 and it will add 1,3 and 5 as changing lines.

So lets say we are in Mei Hua screen and we want to add a changing line.
We can just press F4 now and type .5 and that will add 5th line as changing.


Liu Yao Super I Ching Screen
For Super i Ching there is one more feature.
If we open that input screen and type in the name of the hexagram from Alexes materials it will switch to it.
Since he is always writing the names and not the numbers, that will save the need of going to the Hexagram Charts or trying to read the Yin/Yang lines.

After that can add changing lines based on "O" and "X" in it. Again using the same way. So for example for 64 with changing 1,3 and 5 we can type:

Unsettled.1.3.5
(https://s17.postimg.org/4jovfndn3/hexagramselector2.png)
And it will add it with that changing lines.

That will work on any screen, so even without Super i Ching turned on, if we press F4 and type for example Big Storage it will switch to hexagram 26 even though the name it will show will be "The Taming Power of the Great".

If we use the shortcut(F4 in this case) it can be the fastest way of adding hexagrams and it doesn't matter what screen or type of branches/text we are using.

*Have also added the Super I Ching names in the hexagram selector(below the original hexagram), when Super I Ching is turned on for clarity.

Link is same as always,  : )

Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on May 28, 2018, 10:31:02 PM
As many people asked for manual about the WWG app I was looking into it for a time.
It is ready now.

Some changes in the app:
*Hour pillar now(have to enable it as it is hidden by default)
*Add random generated hexagram with only one changed line
*Other small Fixed
*Link to website with the manual.

Manual is here(uploaded there as it is free library site, it is good place):
https://www.scribd.com/document/380367830/Gmuli-Wen-Wang-Gua-Calculator-Manual (https://www.scribd.com/document/380367830/Gmuli-Wen-Wang-Gua-Calculator-Manual)
(if it asks you for membership just close the window, it should be viewed freely)
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on June 05, 2018, 01:16:22 AM
Small update here.

*Fixed Kan/Li arrows to follow Rens topic here:
http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=13826.msg148407#msg148407 (http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=13826.msg148407#msg148407)
*Made arrows show up by default in Mei Hua screens(can hide them with A again)

Link is same as always.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: ren on June 15, 2018, 03:31:22 AM
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Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on June 15, 2018, 04:07:13 AM
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Hi Gmuli,

Just realized today you added three hexagram Mei Hua view. Looks good.

Nice that you released manual on Scribd.

ren

Thanks. : )

Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on June 20, 2018, 06:03:33 AM
Hi.

A little update here.
Now, we have the option to save image with transparent background, as this will make it more useful to use in other places(pdfs, forums etc.)

While the normal default way I added some background color so it looks nicer.

So to use it hold Shift while clicking "Save" in Print view. That will turn the background color to green on the back, it means it will save it as transparent.

(https://s6.postimg.cc/fwhrw1zqp/Untitled.png)
(https://s6.postimg.cc/7qzpxwqxd/Untitled2.png)
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: papasmurf on August 12, 2019, 11:18:54 AM
Thank you
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Sacrar on September 25, 2019, 09:06:12 AM
@Gmuli
First of all, thank you very much for giving us this great tool for free. I use it often.

I have found I do not know if it is a bug or just a feature. When I select change line 6, the name of the six relatives does not appear. It also happens to me with line 3.

I leave screenshot captures so you know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on September 25, 2019, 02:53:19 PM
@Gmuli
First of all, thank you very much for giving us this great tool for free. I use it often.

I have found I do not know if it is a bug or just a feature. When I select change line 6, the name of the six relatives does not appear. It also happens to me with line 3.

I leave screenshot captures so you know what I'm talking about.


Thanks for feedback and yea, that bug started showing some time ago, didn't get into fixing it before.

It should work fine now. 
Can download from Help > Download Last Version.
Or the link in the topic here.

I added link to the web calculator in the help menu as well, as that is the recommended calculator now, but this one should work again well.

Its at:
Help > Bright Halls Web Calculators
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Sacrar on October 03, 2019, 04:46:33 AM
@Gmuli
I recently discovered that with the mouse cursor above the extra line information the type of relationship returns you (six harmony, part of 3 harmony..). However, that extra information cannot be obtained from the type of relationship existing with the EB of the day and month.
(http://www.resize-photos.com/uploads/output/bug__1570049351_81054.jpg)

Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on October 03, 2019, 04:50:12 AM
@Gmuli
I recently discovered that with the mouse cursor above the extra line information the type of relationship returns you (six harmony, part of 3 harmony..). However, that extra information cannot be obtained from the type of relationship existing with the EB of the day and month.


What do you mean it cannot be obtained?
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on October 03, 2019, 04:53:44 AM
Ohh... I see what you mean I forgot we had that. If you click the day or month branch it will show its relation to all lines and it shows there.

(https://i.postimg.cc/mgrK6VFM/monthrelation.png)

Keep in mind that stuff is just a guideline. You have to determine when it will be active and when it won't. For example some people consider 3 harmony combo only if its between moving or active lines day and month branch. Others use more complicated ways. Up to you.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Sacrar on October 03, 2019, 05:06:49 AM
Ohh... I see what you mean I forgot we had that. If you click the day or month branch it will show its relation to all lines and it shows there.

(https://i.postimg.cc/mgrK6VFM/monthrelation.png)

Keep in mind that stuff is just a guideline. You have to determine when it will be active and when it won't. For example some people consider 3 harmony combo only if its between moving or active lines day and month branch. Others use more complicated ways. Up to you.

ajá, I didn't know that option, rightly...

Do you know any links on the internet that explain the rules of use of the combinations y all that stuff? Maybe in the forum ...
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on October 03, 2019, 05:18:02 AM
If you want check Puppys posts, some of the stuff there was working very well for me and I haven't seen anywhere else. But they are very few and as we have mentioned some of the stuff there doesn't seem very easy to get.
Other then that Jack Chius book is what rules most people in the west use, as most of the other books doesn't have very detailed rules.

Its not perfect, as you will see with time probably, but its as good as it gets for now I assume. After that just trying to manually correct each rule when we have so many questions and situations with it that we think we can correct it.

Can take a while, but that is what we have so far.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Sacrar on October 04, 2019, 06:34:21 AM
@Gmuli

I have another probem with the keyboard shortcut to select one of the options present in the "additional info on lines" tab. When I press the CTRL key, Meihua Stuffs is displayed so I cannot use the shortcuts related to the control key for the additional info on lines tab, for example CRTL+1 for "twelve deities"

(https://i.ibb.co/Br0x6LZ/captura-1.png) (https://ibb.co/Br0x6LZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/wQ4d1Qm/captura-2.png) (https://ibb.co/wQ4d1Qm)
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on October 04, 2019, 02:40:25 PM
Changed them to using Shift+F1,F2 etc.
Go Help > Download Last Version
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Sacrar on December 04, 2019, 07:34:40 AM
Hi again, @Gmuli

I think there's an error in hexagram 59. Having a earthly branch Earth results in You metal appearing very weak (dead), when it should be Strong (associate). It occurs with the 4 earthly branches of element earth (Chen, Xu, Wei, Chou)
(https://i.ibb.co/vxbmfNs/issue.png) (https://ibb.co/WWQF7rD)

Regards.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on December 04, 2019, 04:55:22 PM
Hi again, @Gmuli

I think there's an error in hexagram 59. Having a earthly branch Earth results in You metal appearing very weak (dead), when it should be Strong (associate). It occurs with the 4 earthly branches of element earth (Chen, Xu, Wei, Chou)
(https://i.ibb.co/vxbmfNs/issue.png) (https://ibb.co/WWQF7rD)

Regards.

Nicely spotted!
Try it now, should work nicer.

I also added some more info about the website and change the donations part, so its connected to the site now.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Sacrar on December 04, 2019, 11:29:36 PM
Hi again, @Gmuli

I think there's an error in hexagram 59. Having a earthly branch Earth results in You metal appearing very weak (dead), when it should be Strong (associate). It occurs with the 4 earthly branches of element earth (Chen, Xu, Wei, Chou)
(https://i.ibb.co/vxbmfNs/issue.png) (https://ibb.co/WWQF7rD)

Regards.

Nicely spotted!
Try it now, should work nicer.

I also added some more info about the website and change the donations part, so its connected to the site now.

I downloaded the latest version from Help>download last version and it keeps appearing the same issue/bug  :-X
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Sacrar on December 05, 2019, 04:45:54 AM
I already got it  the new version with the bug fixed, work fine.

I take the opportunity to ask a suggestion for next versions. Currently it is not possible to know what type of combination has the changed lines in the derived hexagram, or the hidden lines, with the Day or Month. The only thing that is clear is the clash that there is only one type.

(https://i.ibb.co/z6S0pNV/captura-1.png) (https://ibb.co/CPnTgWK)
(https://i.ibb.co/hVySKYN/captura-2.png) (https://ibb.co/9WN7qZ0)

I would like to know what kind of combination it is:
- if it is a six armony combinations,
- if it is a combination of harmony of 3.
- or other type of combination

This information could be placed in a floating window by passing the cursor over the red letters, or put it next to the blue information in this column:
(https://i.ibb.co/wRy6qTQ/captura-4.png) (https://ibb.co/yX0sCDk)
(https://i.ibb.co/thyKjry/captura-3.png) (https://imgbb.com/)


Thanks very much @Gmuli
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on December 05, 2019, 05:03:28 AM
Just mouse over the text with the combination:

(https://i.postimg.cc/wTqrqzJv/3harmony.png)

Though, we are focusing on the website more, lately, so there aren't any big updates to the other apps planned unless something is really awesome to implement(and that is rare).

I will add the strength of lines and the relation to the new design of the site, that may come in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on December 05, 2019, 05:07:24 AM
Ohh, wait the hidden lines and the other hexagram... I'm not sure, but that may not work , yea.
But the idea is to move to the site, it will have it there when its ready(few more weeks hopefully). : )
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Sacrar on December 05, 2019, 07:18:41 AM
Ohh, wait the hidden lines and the other hexagram... I'm not sure, but that may not work , yea.
But the idea is to move to the site, it will have it there when its ready(few more weeks hopefully). : )

That was it, we can see the type of combination for the lines of the original hexagram but not for the lines of the derivative hexagram nor for the hidden lines.
Title: Re: Gmuli Wen Wang Gua Calculator
Post by: Gmuli on December 05, 2019, 05:17:03 PM
Ohh, wait the hidden lines and the other hexagram... I'm not sure, but that may not work , yea.
But the idea is to move to the site, it will have it there when its ready(few more weeks hopefully). : )

That was it, we can see the type of combination for the lines of the original hexagram but not for the lines of the derivative hexagram nor for the hidden lines.

Hmm, yea it doesn't seem possible to see that.
Well, as I mention will add it to the site when the new design is ready(few weeks). I don't want to update the PC app too much, as the whole idea is the site to be used instead.