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Title: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Axis on September 23, 2014, 01:08:55 AM
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Post by: decha_woo on September 24, 2014, 05:28:17 PM
Hi @Axis,

That's very impressive collection of valuable Bazi knowledge!

Thanks for sharing, at least, a part of mine. :) It somewhat helps me recall and refresh my understanding.

 8)
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Post by: aqua on September 24, 2014, 07:22:28 PM
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Post by: Axis on September 24, 2014, 11:05:32 PM
Hi Decha_Woo, Aqua, All,

Thank you, I'am happy if these pages can help someone, some from the old forum was really interesting...
I need to find a method to send the pages online for an easy reading on screen, computer, computer...

This is a complement for the topic below where you will read some good educative posts written by "Dear Puppylove" about Blindman/Mangpai method, which is really amazing :

Blindman Case Study – A tragic woman
 http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=414.msg2745#msg2745

I will search if I have other old pages...

Have a good time

 :)
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Axis on September 25, 2014, 07:20:24 PM
Hi All,
I will send another topic below about a case sudy, where are some important replies written by Clurker from the old forum. Thanks a lot to Clurker for the introduction to Blind reading...
I will send this topic by Word and by pages 1-8

Thanks to Jlim for his technical help...

Enjoy

 ;D
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Post by: Axis on September 25, 2014, 07:29:24 PM
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Post by: Jlim on September 25, 2014, 10:05:57 PM
For the first part of this topic, I have added 7 more attachment files as sent by Axis.  They are added in Post #0 (original post) and Reply #1.  And they are named with alphabet letters.
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Axis on September 25, 2014, 10:22:50 PM
Thank You Jlim !


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Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Puppylove on October 22, 2014, 10:18:17 AM
Won't be much help in searches if there's only pictures that search engines can't go through. :)

I've almost forgotten about this little piece you've reposted back up.

Older Male + Younger Female
and
Younger Male + Older Female

Seen in Bazi from Mangpai view.

The gereneral principle of this is really the manipulation of "Images". From common sources of these "Images", when enough of the same "Image" is visible in the chart, then in Mangpai it is considered to be something that will occur or has already happened.

This is the same princple as diagnosing a patient as a doctor. You don't get told by your patient that they have a cough and then tell them they have lung and throat cancer. Although this might be accurate in some cases. In Mangpai, you ideally want at least 2 similar "Images" before you even say that this occurs in this persons life. 3 or more is pretty much a sure fire deal and never wrong.

In this instance here, Mangpai uses the Palace system associated with general age to determine the age of the spouse/partner of the bazi chart owner.

Typically speaking the following are the general age ranges in association with the chart owner:
Year: Elders and elderly, Parents generation or even older
Month: Parents and Siblings generation, school friends, colleagues, or friends
Day: Same generation, very close in age, or even neighbours
Hour: Younger generation, students, next generation, or even younger

This is used as the first starting point to examine whether your spouse/partner will be older than you are; wherever you see the Star that represents your spouse appearing in any of these Palaces(Pillars), then you know there will be someone of that age range who would very much want or has pursued you before for a relationship.

This however, is not enough to say with certainty that such a relationship will occur.

Other aspects in Mangpai in interpreting a chart (such as "Interactions") are also required before this can be achieved.

For example, the only Spouse Star in the chart is found in the Day Branch (Spouse Palace) and harms the Year Branch. This interaction tells you that this Spouse can not be someone who is that old, as it does not have any relation/affinity with the Year Branch (someone who is older). This will be especially so, if the Year Branch has a Ten Deity that was older (like Direct or Indirect Resource). Instead, because it is found in the Day Branch only, it likely will mean someone who has a very similar age to the chart owner themselves.

Another example, the only Spouse Star in the chart is found in the Year Branch (Elders Palace) and harms the Month Branch and Combines with the Day Branch. This interaction tells you that this Spouse can not be someone whos' age is similar to those from your school or siblings (Harm against the Month, can essentially mean it has no relation to it in essence; so it can't have anything similar to it as it is different). They will likely be a bit older than normally expected for your age range (As star is in the Year/Elder Palace). But you may have met them early on in life (Combination means to bring towards you, so this reduces the age difference, but the likelihood is an older person, as well as meaning likely having met you before).

This is all just the basic layer however. Other things such as 10 Deity, Five Element, Stem, Branch, all have their own unique images that produce different outcomes when encountered.

It is through this same principle that other details can be obtained. And it is what was attempted to be conveyed back in the original thread in Fivearts.Net.
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: decha_woo on October 22, 2014, 01:16:56 PM
Hi Puppylove,

May I ask for a little bit more help of further idea about this issue of spouse age?

If Spouse Star (or Element?) can only be seen in an LP or two (AP would reflect much less influence), how could we consider age of spouse?

If I have to make a guess based on idea you have explained, we should see if there is any relationship to any pillar in chart, shouldn't we? I think I could recall some of your explanation like 4 pillars in chart may be taken into consideration of timing to meet spouse, but Spouse Element from LP could be a strong "catalyst" of the event. However, re age range of spouse based on LP, I still have no idea...

I think by the element of LP itself we could not see age range of the spouse.

Please help advise....
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Post by: Puppylove on October 22, 2014, 11:51:22 PM
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Post by: Axis on October 23, 2014, 02:27:13 AM
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Post by: Puppylove on October 23, 2014, 10:55:01 PM
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Post by: Nobunaga on October 24, 2014, 12:35:55 AM
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Post by: Puppylove on October 24, 2014, 12:48:58 AM
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Post by: Nobunaga on October 24, 2014, 08:52:56 AM
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Post by: Puppylove on October 24, 2014, 09:31:17 AM
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Post by: Nobunaga on October 24, 2014, 09:32:02 AM
Hi puppylove,

Thanks for the explanation...
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: decha_woo on October 24, 2014, 11:02:56 AM
Hi @Puppylove,

Thank you so much for your in-depth explanation in detail.

That's very kind of you, as always... :)
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Post by: Jlim on October 24, 2014, 11:36:02 AM
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Post by: zwdsflying on October 24, 2014, 03:52:31 PM
Hi,

This differs from plain Bazi, in a sense, the wealth (wife) is hidden in Ji Chou branch in 2009 through 2010 and 2011 has strong wealth (wife) aspects.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Puppylove on October 24, 2014, 06:06:16 PM
@Jlim @Nobunaga

Thanks for posting that answer. I totally missed the question when I first read it last night. Yes the process is as Jlim posted and yes would have been younger by at least 5 years here due to way Palace extended to hour Branch.
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Axis on October 24, 2014, 07:55:09 PM
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Post by: Axis on October 24, 2014, 11:21:24 PM
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Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Nobunaga on October 24, 2014, 11:37:28 PM
Hi all,

I got example of a real chart
         DM
Wu   Ren  Ren    Ji
Shen Xu  Shen  Wei

Gender .... Female
Wood only hidden in year branch
Fire only in grave in day branch
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: zwdsflying on October 25, 2014, 02:23:42 AM
Hi Nobunaga,

Medical science has nearly rendered Bazi and Zi Wei to near irrelevance when it comes to predicting children gender or offsprings.  Hence I am not sure if this discussions will bear much fruit, but it is interesting to see other aspects of it.


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Post by: Puppylove on October 25, 2014, 09:52:27 AM
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Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Nobunaga on October 25, 2014, 06:38:47 PM
Hi puppylove,

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Hi all,

I got example of a real chart
         DM
Wu   Ren  Ren    Ji
Shen Xu  Shen  Wei

Gender .... Female
Wood only hidden in year branch
Fire only in grave in day branch

What exactly are you asking about? You have a chart, but no question associated with it.

Bazi chart that got no EG/HO and DW/IW...but got a son
How to see from the chart?

Thanks

Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Axis on October 25, 2014, 09:01:50 PM
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Post by: Puppylove on October 26, 2014, 08:39:02 AM
Hi puppylove,

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Hi all,

I got example of a real chart
         DM
Wu   Ren  Ren    Ji
Shen Xu  Shen  Wei

Gender .... Female
Wood only hidden in year branch
Fire only in grave in day branch

What exactly are you asking about? You have a chart, but no question associated with it.

Bazi chart that got no EG/HO and DW/IW...but got a son
How to see from the chart?

Thanks

Not applicable for this example, as the two Burials/Graves/Stores have been opened. So contents within are considered to be available. Spouse and Offspring exist. (Read into Grave useage in other Mangpai thread for a few more examples)
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Axis on October 26, 2014, 04:44:22 PM
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Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: mdrapkin on May 11, 2015, 12:15:50 PM
Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum and I find the Mangpai system really fascinating. Thank you everyone for your contribution, I really hope to learn from all of you!
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Talib on November 14, 2015, 12:06:50 PM
I want to thank all the contributors for the valuable information.
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Talib on November 14, 2015, 01:57:08 PM
For the first part of this topic, I have added 7 more attachment files as sent by Axis.  They are added in Post #0 (original post) and Reply #1.  And they are named with alphabet letters.

Thanks Jlim!
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Niji on January 09, 2016, 12:43:04 AM
I'm eager to read. Thank you!
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Owlbear on February 13, 2016, 07:18:09 AM
Is this still all valid?
There is so much use of the hidden stems... At times they even show arrival, even though there are a lot more current posts by puppylove and Fireoperator, showing all we should look at for arrival, and now nowhere mentions hidden stems.
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Jlim on February 13, 2016, 02:05:40 PM
Hi Owlbear, regarding the use of hidden stems, one of the things that I don't agree with is in Reply #28 of the attached files:

Puppylove wrote "The Shen Monkey Metal that is activated from the Wu Earth enters into the Graveyard..."

Based on my table of arrivals from Stem-Branch relationship, Shen Branch and Wu Stem does not indicate arrival.  Meaning, Shen is not activated by Wu, and vice versa, Wu is not activated by Shen. 

What may be the reason?  If you look at a whole pillar Wu Shen, this is not a solid pillar.  What Shen resonates with are Ren and Geng.  Although Wu is a hidden stem of Shen, Shen does not resonate with Wu for arrival. 

The following are valid:
-  Shen can be activated by Ren, and Ren can be activated by Shen.
-  Shen can be activated by Geng, and Geng can be activated by Shen.
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Axis on February 13, 2016, 05:21:03 PM
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Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Owlbear on February 13, 2016, 09:22:19 PM
Jlim:
I understand, thanks.


Will post some info I used to get the Arrivals, I think people can use to make their own Table, most of the rules are very clear.

Before I meant two posts, one by puppylove and one by Fireoperator.

Here is puppylove post:
http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=1923.msg20838#msg20838 (http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=1923.msg20838#msg20838)
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Chart:
Hour   Day   Month   Year
Ding   Gui     X           X
X        Mao   X          You

So during Yi (Stem), Mao (Arrival), Wei (Tomb) or Xu (Combine of Clash) year we know that this persons health will take a downfall. etc.
During Ding (Arrival), Wu (Branch), Wei (Sub Branch) or Xu (Tomb) year this person will do really great at speeches and influential. etc.
And during Xin (Stem), You (Arrival), Chou (Tomb), or Chen (Combine of Clash) year we know that this person will do really well Internationally. etc.

When we look at it first it seem complicated, especially with "combine to clash"(there is explanation there, but there is easier way to remember this). When we get into it, it seems it's the element it representation in branch(or stems if it's branch), Tomb of it's element, and Tomb of it's season, all 3 times.

The thing that messed up info here, was the fact in the example all Stems were Yin. So we missed the hidden stem rule.

The post I couldn't initially understand was in Page 12, where Hai activates Jia.
There is interesting relations here, Jia/Zi is Stable Pillar, also is Yi/Hai, and that gives some idea why probably Hai can activate Jia.

However that adds a lot more info to it.
We get most Traveling Stars(Hai, Shen, Yin) activating the Stems of the next element as well. And if we look at Jlim explanation, we also get the Stems activating the Traveling Stars.

Here we have Fireoperator explanation, it's is close to what puppylove wrote:

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To be more specific, your question is on "arrival"(应期).

I mentioned before, but let me reemphasizes.

 丁 in luck can be used to represents the arrival of certain character in the chart to do work.

First represents stem. (for 丁, it's 丁/己)
Secondly represents it's self root.   (for 丁 is 午)
Thirdly represent it's elemental grave. (for 丁 is 戌)
Lastly represent its residual energy in grave (for 丁 its 未)

Exactly the same rule, Stem, then it's Branch, then it's Grave, then the Grave of it's season.

Here we add the Traveling Star from previous season because of it's hidden stems, for Yang Elements as well(except for Metal).

So based on this making a table of arrival will include 4 things for almost all stems and branches. As we add, Traveling Stars, because of the Hidden Stems we also add 1 more relation, then we will have 5 for all Yang Stems, while still 4 for all Yin Stems(because the polarity of hidden element in previous season is always Yin, for example Jia in Hai).

Checking if pilar is solid to include or exclude something based on hidden stem, seems like a good idea too.

Exceptions will be mostly related to Metal, since it's solid pillars doesn't include Fire, even though the other Solid Pillars include the element that has this one in roots in their (element of previous season that has Metal, specifically Si snake has Geng in roots), and for Earth it only accepts the earths that are part of their earth gang(can't accept Xu for example even though it's Tomb of their season).


Ahh... Just some thoughts, anyway, Hai can activate Jia, because Jia/Zi and Yi/Hai are stable pillars. Awesome, thank you.

Info here I think is enough to make Table of Arrivals.
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Owlbear on February 14, 2016, 07:23:45 AM
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because the polarity of hidden element in previous season is always Yin, for example Jia in Hai

I guess this is obvious, but may as well say something. The polarity obviously is always Yang, in Traveling Stars hidden stems for the next season(such as Jia in Hai), since it's the element that is growing now. It's obvious from the context I guess, but may as well mention it. : )
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Axis on February 14, 2016, 04:13:19 PM
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Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Jlim on February 15, 2016, 03:14:31 PM

Axis: Sure, if we look at the examples and rule mentioned, Wei and Xu for example, while they are arrival for Bing none of them have Bing in their Hidden Stems(although both have Ding).


In my opinion, Wei and Xu are not arrival for Bing.  Here is a chart example that shows how Xu≠Bing
Clarification "Representation of Arrivals" in Mangpai (http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=4664.msg82196#msg82196)

Hi Jlim, All,

Where is your Table of arrivals from Stem-Branch relationship?

Does it possible that you share this useful table in a new topic for clarification & researches?

In due course. ;)
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: flyingphoenix on March 13, 2016, 03:24:17 PM
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Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: flyingphoenix on August 13, 2016, 02:44:55 PM
Dear Masters, Seniors and Friends,

It's me again with another case that can't be concluded by myself  :P Please kindly help  :D

If spouse star is Output/Wealth in or linked to Hour pillar, it's mostly a younger spouse from abroad.
If spouse star is Officer/Resources in or linked to Month/Year, it's mostly an older spouse from birthplace (MoNth) /far place (YeAr).

How does if it is Output in Month/Year or Officer/Resource in Hour??

Is he/she younger/older, local/abroad?  :-X

Let me bring a male chart from another thread...

YMDH   DING    GUI     XIN     WU       LP 2017   JI
            SI         MAO   MAO    XU                       HAI


Spouse star is GUI (output sits atop spouse palace's ext) and MAO (IW in spouse palace).

How to decipher GUI and MAO? Output and IW are in day/month (= younger and local), but linked to Resource/Officer in Hour/Year (=older and abroad).

What kind of spouse will he get on LP Ji Hai??

Mao / Gui = small, cute and good-looking. Mao - Xu, Wu - Gui = educated. His spouse is small, cute, good-looking and educated woman for sure (??).

Thank you  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Vroya on August 13, 2016, 07:52:54 PM
@flyingphoenix my noob answer:

gui-mao, mao itself is extension of dm branch itself, so gui-mao can represent the spouse, but the mao dm itself is already the spouse star...

mao-xu combination, in this case the spouse is the IW, mao-xu combination brings output tomb and wealth to the star. meaning the spouse likely rich, have the output trait (i dunno the trait of "output"), likely attractive :D

Gui above the mao, means close to mother or educated enough....
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: flyingphoenix on August 14, 2016, 06:20:06 AM
@flyingphoenix
have the output trait (i dunno the trait of "output"), likely attractive :D

Imho, she is a silent one that has difficulties to express her ideas. Mao wood has fire as output but Ding Si fire enter Xu tomb. Xu is closed by Mao, although sometimes it is opened by ding-gui clash.

But i could be wrong...  :P
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Vroya on August 14, 2016, 02:01:22 PM
@flyingphoenix
have the output trait (i dunno the trait of "output"), likely attractive :D

Imho, she is a silent one that has difficulties to express her ideas. Mao wood has fire as output but Ding Si fire enter Xu tomb. Xu is closed by Mao, although sometimes it is opened by ding-gui clash.

But i could be wrong...  :P

Yep, forgot about that point. xu as output tomb is closed...
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Vroya on August 14, 2016, 09:16:40 PM
@flyingphoenix thanks for pointing that out btw, :D
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Talib on August 17, 2016, 11:21:21 AM
@flyingphoenix

Thank you for more case studies  :)

First chart with Bing DM is HO heavy chart. HO already has weak family nucleus and would go for non traditional relationship. Zi is spouse palace and spouse star which is in distress due to double Wei harm and Wu clash. At this point Zi is wealth because what you control is wealth. Bing DM also combines with Xin in stem. This person uses male partners to obtain money. This also includes seduction because Wu is DM body and in hour it represent private parts. Moreover Zi is DB and resembles bedroom.

I would be more inclined to use HO as spouse representation. Wei as branch is tomb of resource, hence partners are well to do and they want to combine with Wu in hour. But harm spOuse palace. This would mean they only want her as mistress and then leave. Do you have any record of past relationships?
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Vroya on August 17, 2016, 11:26:20 AM
@flyingphoenix

Thank you for more case studies  :)

First chart with Bing DM is HO heavy chart. HO already has weak family nucleus and would go for non traditional relationship. Zi is spouse palace and spouse star which is in distress due to double Wei harm and Wu clash. At this point Zi is wealth because what you control is wealth. Bing DM also combines with Xin in stem. This person uses male partners to obtain money. This also includes seduction because Wu is DM body and in hour it represent private parts. Moreover Zi is DB and resembles bedroom.

I would be more inclined to use HO as spouse representation. Do you have any record of past relationships?

which chart did u read?
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Talib on August 17, 2016, 11:28:26 AM
Jia.    Bing.   Xin.    Ji. 
Wu.   Zi.      Wei.   Wei.

@Vroya
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: flyingphoenix on August 17, 2016, 02:23:16 PM
Hi Mr. Talib,

Thanks for joining here. Nice to learn from you.

This person uses male partners to obtain money. This also includes seduction because Wu is DM body and in hour it represent private parts. Moreover Zi is DB and resembles bedroom.
Instead of obtaining money from men, she lost much because of them. She used to love men that far from she is. Twice, to joining the man, she left her good career and spent her own money to stay with the man.

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Do you have any record of past relationships?
In last 6 years, she had been left by 4 men. They are 1-20 years older than her :(  They didn't appreciated her 'sacrifice' and simply pick up another women.

Right now, she begins to be infatuated to married man. I think, Jia (resource) could be used as spouse star because wealth and officer star greatly depressed and won't be successful relationship. Unfortunately, this Jia sits atop and self combining with Wu Horse (RW) which means an attached man. But i dunno whether she can marry him finally or end up as a mistress only.

If we use HO as spousestar, isn't it Zi-Wei harm that prevent him entering 'master bedroom'?

 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: flyingphoenix on August 17, 2016, 05:14:36 PM
If we use HO as spousestar, isn't it Zi-Wei harm that prevent him entering 'master bedroom'?
Sorry for this question. I missed before that you had already explained that harm cause her being mistress only..  :'(

Gui above the mao, means close to mother or educated enough....

HDMY.  Wu  XIN   Gui    Ding
               Xu.  Mao  Mao   Si

Imho Gui girl is the one who closed to mother. Xin is the only one ally in her Metal Water Gang.

According to Reply #64 http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=13338.60 by Mr. Talib, Gui is in contradictory. And Mr. Kevin Chan said Gui Mao is uncivilized punishment pillar (??) Gui is resource of Mao girl. I think the Mao girl has problems with her mother or health  ::)

For education quality, i think both girl are good ones due to Mao (wealth) and Xu (resources) combination in his chart.
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Vroya on August 17, 2016, 09:26:49 PM
For education quality, i think both girl are good ones due to Mao (wealth) and Xu (resources) combination in his chart.

Can you tell me more about the Bing-Zi chart owner? About her education? From what i read, her education is not so high because so many contradict in her chart...

xin-mao girl is already in relationship?
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Talib on August 18, 2016, 07:11:09 AM
@flyingphoenix

Thank you for the update. Your response reminded me of puppylove post on romance and marriage, which apparently I am unable to find ( perhaps @Axis can rescue me again  :P ). It was not a real chart but puppylove deciphered for understanding purposes. Bing Wu DM, female, with lots of water. Spouse palace was well controlled by water. Puppylove mentions Wu RW as wealth because it was well controlled and also said that she will loose her wealth to guys because of such control and relationship will be likely abusive.

Considering that, Zi being wealth and it has harm relation with Wei then guys are harming her wealth. Moreover, main work in branch is ding RW controlling Gui, which we already determined as wealth. So that also denotes loss of wealth. since Zi is located in day branch means it is her wealth that is being robbed.

Master @Jlim could you please provide some insight on this chart?
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Axis on August 18, 2016, 04:31:18 PM
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Post by: flyingphoenix on August 18, 2016, 04:35:38 PM
Can you tell me more about the Bing-Zi chart owner? About her education? From what i read, her education is not so high because so many contradict in her chart...

Jia.    Bing.   Xin.    Ji.
Wu.   Zi.      Wei.   Wei.

This Bing female is clever. She used to be in top rank during school. Got bachelor degree in her country and master degree from abroad.
Career wise, she ever worked as General Manager in a 3-star-hotel and a recreational park.

I think Jia Wu hour pillar performs a very good work for her education through self-combining. Zi (authority) is totally controlled too so she can reach such position at work. The problem is a contradictory where Bing DM combine with Xin but Zi got lose in harm with double Wei. So wealth and men only come and go.

She really want to marry and have baby. Is there any chance to fulfill her dream?

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xin-mao girl is already in relationship?

Male  HDMY.  Wu  XIN   Gui    Ding
                     Xu.  Mao  Mao   Si

I continued our disscussion before. Sorry if I made you confused by talking about 2 chart in 1 post  :P
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Vroya on August 18, 2016, 06:01:45 PM
Duh, i missed out completely, lol -_-
Baby? Perhaps yes, perhaps not, but who will be the father if there's no one to marry?
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Axis on September 11, 2017, 02:37:59 AM
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Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: pang on September 21, 2018, 10:53:45 PM
post to read
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: pang on September 21, 2018, 10:55:01 PM
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Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: pang on September 21, 2018, 10:55:38 PM
sorry to post again
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: pang on September 21, 2018, 10:56:04 PM
many thanks
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: Gmuli on September 21, 2018, 11:45:08 PM
sorry to post again

It's ok, most of us have been there when starting. : )
Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: ArtofFugue on September 21, 2018, 11:55:30 PM
Won't be much help in searches if there's only pictures that search engines can't go through. :)
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Your worries are unfounded. :)


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Title: Re: Blindman case study (complement)
Post by: nin99 on September 27, 2018, 06:08:42 AM
Hi all,

This is my chart
bing gui ren ding
chen si   zi    mao

this year on 23 september 2018,enter in wu shen lp,will I meet the women of my soul this lp?
when I WAS IN JI YOU LP,meet a girl on 18 novemer 2014,divorce by me in jia shen day in wu xu month,in bing shen year(2016)

my dob 10 december 1987 8 10 am,kiev,ukraine.

Thank you