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Zi Wei Dou Shu (ZWDS) 紫微斗数 / Do you have Wen Qu hua ji?
« on: November 04, 2018, 09:18:41 PM »
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Has anyone experience wen qu hua ji at ming natally or in a cycle?
I have that next year. But given the amount of good stars looks like a mixed year

"Hua Ji(Annoyance) is conjunctive (Hua Ji is Transformed by Wen Qu)
 There can easily be lawsuits, or problems and complications due to bank cheques, documents, official correspondence, official dispatch, records, archives, a diploma, etc. The individual should be mindful of the use of the mouth and the tongue, disputes or misunderstandings caused by gossip, quarrelling. The person lacks good fortune in the matter of taking an exam or test, and promotions.

 Hua Ji(transformed by Wen Qu) can signify a brain tumour, or mental disorder. Or a disease or ailment to do with the intestines.

 Hua Ji(transformed by Wen Qu) is liable to lead to problems with wedding and marriage."

http://www.freehoro.net/ZWDS_EN/LiuNian/LiuNian.php?NUrl=&CNT=1366&You=MzA3MDk0MTQ&User=OCwwLDgsMCww&BD1=MTk2MjAxMDkxMw&BD2=MDgwMjAxMjA0MDg&NT1=MjAxODExMDQwNA&NT2=MDUxMTAwOTI3MDMwNTg&SG1=MDMyQ0JBNzM0NTY3ODkxNEMzNzRDQjZCOTc1QUM2Q0M0MzkyQTkxQzdDMzU3OTYyQTYyMzY4M0I3NkFBMjhBNjU1NkMyNjU0MzIxQ0JBOTg3QTk4NzY1NDMyMUNC&XuSui=59&LiuNian=2019&LiuNianGan=6&LiuNianZhi=12

But as you can see ,natally and in decade I have Ke and quan there hua lu opposite but hua ji from wen chang

http://www.freehoro.net/ZWDS_EN/Ming/Ming.php?NUrl=&CNT=1366&You=MzA3MDk0MTQ&User=OCwwLDgsMCww&BD1=MTk2MjAxMDkxMw&BD2=MDgwMjAxMjA0MDg&NT1=MjAxODExMDQwNA&NT2=MDUxMTAwOTI3MDMwNTg&SG1=MDMyQ0JBNzM0NTY3ODkxNEMzNzRDQjZCOTc1QUM2Q0M0MzkyQTkxQzdDMzU3OTYyQTYyMzY4M0I3NkFBMjhBNjU1NkMyNjU0MzIxQ0JBOTg3QTk4NzY1NDMyMUNC

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紫微斗數 Zi Wei Dou Shu / Calculating year chart
« on: October 30, 2018, 08:32:16 PM »
Hi
The 10 yeard cycle is most importante cause it`s very personal,but year is basically the same for everyone,especially in Bazi. But in zi wei we have diferente stars in xu the current year. However there`s another method that makes the year more personal. for ex in my case the yearly ming this year is at Chen not xu. Because I was born in chou month and year age 1 is at wei,age 2 at Shen etc.
Some masters swear by this method cause it`s calculated the same way as decade.Larry Sang uses it,Viktor too
Have you ever tried it?
this site does it both ways

freehoro.net

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hi

weak dm with strong dm sibling-theoretically sibling is favorable to weak dm,but weak dm is unfavorable to strong dm sibling,as this one tends to be competitive and overbearing even when not challenged. How does this wor out? My personal experience is that sibling is helpful financially or otherwise,but still unlikeable. Me on the other hand avoid sibling as much as I can because he`s a put off.Friend and DM is untimely so friends and siblings arent exactly the kind of people you would introduce to polite society. Still,they are considered favorable,which I find weird.Do I have to wait for a horse year to make proper friends?
sibling chart
xin ren ren ji
chou wu shen hai 28 aug 1959
below my chart in color

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Blindman School (Mangpai Bazi) / Can normal chart explain this?
« on: October 16, 2018, 02:16:02 AM »
hi

http://www.raymond-lo.com/p/14533/nr/100007/killers

Ray Lo says Eric Harris was a follow leader type,though his DM sits on RW Si, but clashed by Hai hour
Can the Columbine massacre be explained using normal chart? He was in a full resource frame cycle but they clashed with wealth and Geng sits on Yin in decade cycle

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Harris,_Eric

I had a "killing the boss" cycle Wu Xu as well in my twenties,did risky things but nothing of the sort.
2001 had a complete "wealth attracts ghost" frame but all I did was to insult people on the net. I think culture played a role.Our homicide rate was very low at the time, I tended to think "murder is out of order,this isn`t America" when I was angry. I think that when the homicide rate is high,one feels egged on to do the same. A lot more people went through similar cycles here and they didnt turn into criminals either. And anyway my natal chart has EG not HO.

This year I have "killing the boss" again. In february some of my students werent happy with my classes.The Headteacher went there to talk to us,and to my shock she asked me to leave the class while she talked to my students,which meant they could talk behind my back.Some eastern european students from another class,who were outside actually told me and egged me on to go back to class otherwise the students would talk behind me.Obviously in their country this was unthinkable procedure.
When I told the School manager,she told me this is normal procedure here. My headteacher later explained she had nothing against me,it`s the way the things work in this society ( a bit like the burning of widows in India,a normal procedure until the British banned it.Now they have multiple rapes instead) .
Apparently we patched things up,but I dont now what she really thought.She was born the same day I was,9 january,but in 1972. A timely ji earth with two EG stems. EG is good at charming people so...

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https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Ronaldo,_Cristiano

not sure which birthtime is accurate but 10.20 am puts tian ji hua ji in travel(scheming). An American woman claims he raped her. His bazi shows no lawsuit until 2020 as he is Yi wood,so im not sure. Have a look at his Zi wei

http://www.destinyandluck.com/luck_chart.php?month=2&day=5&year=1985&time=9%3A00am+to+10%3A59am&sex=Male&luck_year=2018&submit=Submit

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 Ding wei serial killer.I`m surprised a guy with so much RW was so shy,yet with a dark side Interesting that ding wei Sean Connery was also a grave digger for a whil

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Sutcliffe,_Peter

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Request for birth chart reading [FREE] / Re: Stressful month
« on: October 07, 2018, 09:05:10 PM »
Not sure if this a true follow leader chart, this Yin Fire DM is getting a lot of support from Wood within Goat, so it's not weak DM. I think this chart needs Water to challenge the Earth.

but wood is useles being controlled by metal in chou

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Request for birth chart reading [FREE] / Stressful month
« on: October 06, 2018, 11:24:44 PM »
Hi
I dont now who said my chart is folow leader but this Xin you month has been stressful. Want to enjoy but no Money,struggle to borrow from family as they`re not too well off now.
Furthermore Tian ji hua ji at property beingactivated this month didnt cause any property problem

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http://www.destinyandluck.com/luck_chart.php?month=1&day=9&year=1962&time=1%3A00pm+to+2%3A59pm&sex=Male&luck_year=2018&submit=Submit

hi
this month my ming is at chou,my natal health, decade ming ,and yearly property and tian ji hua ji is there. I already know part of what is going to happen. I`m in my holiday home at the moment so bear that in mind. I`m a bit worried because of hua ji but this is a good challenge for your skills. Can you tell from the chart what is going to happen?
ill let you know later what i now will definetely happen

regs
Myming this month was tian ji hua ji at year property.Nothing special haappened,nothing wrong with property

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Si Zhu Ba Zi Knowledge Base / Classic on follow son structure
« on: September 25, 2018, 07:06:23 PM »
从儿格 ( Follow the child /Son structure )

Follow the child structure believed to be extracted from 滴天髓 ( Di Tian Sui ) original text in four phrases

“一出门来只见儿,吾儿成气构门闾,从儿不管身强弱,只要吾儿再见儿” -- literally translated . Opening the Door see the child, my son forming main Qi gate, follow child don't care day strong or weak, wanting my child seeing another child " 😊

A funny translation, meaning .. in order to form a follow the child structure, the output Qi must be in season ( of course the output star being revealed on the heavenly stem is better), Follow the child chart do not care about whether the day master is strong or weak ( Because it has to follow the main Qi) and the chart should see child of the child where in this case it is a wealth )

However this is inconsistente with the fact that follow structures must be very weak

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hi

It is said weak DM needs friend to help him get girlfriend.
Well,in my case never worked.I once chat up a girl who lived nearby and got a date,but as I arrived in the cafe where she was waiting,my friends were at another table,made a lot noise and egged me on to get her.I felt so embarassed that I left. On another occasion a friend of mine chat up two girls,i was interested in one of them,but while he talked to them calmly,i was trembling and couldnt disguise it.My trembling body was there for all to see.Maybe my DM is so weak that it cant be helped although im not so nervous these days. There was one occasion in whixh friend helped,in 1991,a work mate at the reception of a hotel.He introduced me to an Aussie girl,then he left and everything got easier for me. So,I cant have friends around while im in the process of seducing and normally prefer to do it on my own,although it takes more guts, but at least its easier to be myself than with male friends around.It`s possible I`m a follow son or wealth because of the chart flow i dont now

ding ding xin xin
wei wei chou chou

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Si Zhu Ba Zi Knowledge Base / Re: Shi Shen, eating god
« on: September 17, 2018, 08:38:22 PM »
Hi all

Speaking about fat here, output elements in EB.

Woody Allen 1 December 1935
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woody_Allen

He is not fat.

from astrotheme

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Woody_Allen

IMHO based on time true solar  of birth after Hai hour and let me say his born at 2 Dec 1935 at Zi hour :)

so his chart
                  DM
Yi    Ding    Ren     Ren
Hai  Hai      Zi         Zi

So I didn't see Shi Shen :)

no its 1 dec astrotheme doesnt check its sources

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Allen,_Woody

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Si Zhu Ba Zi (SZBZ) 四柱八字 / many follow leader charts
« on: September 17, 2018, 08:07:54 PM »
http://yibazi.blogspot.com/2009/07/fake-follower-that-refuse-to-follow.html

unfortunately the fórum above has been quiet since 2010,its the only where follow leader charts are discussed at lenght.
in the ex above i dont understand why he says gui dm has no root.It is sitting on a root chou.

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quite good.Is there one on eg or iw?

i got 4 eg but not sick all my life.I got cholesterol but is genetic all my family has it and they have no strong eg or ho.
i got diabets 2 in 2002 but it was caused by a psychiatrig drug prescrbibed by a doctor,still,it is well controlled.And my body isnt weak im broad shouldered although a bit lazy and hard to motivate

but im not someone who is plagued by diseases and ive already had a double ho cycle wu xu in my twenties
but im not exactly a major success so im not sure my chart qualifies as follow son

ding ding xin xin
wei wei chou chou

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Si Zhu Ba Zi (SZBZ) 四柱八字 / Inconsistent rules in bazi
« on: September 16, 2018, 09:34:15 PM »
hi
it is said that when dm is too weak to survive it has to follow the strongest element,called follow structure

but some classics,like one mentioned by a certain renwaters whose blog sadly closed down, say follow son is the exception,cause self strenghtens the son,hence dm doesnt have to be weak so long theres no seal with root

but that is inconsistent with the original rule that dm has to be almost dead
what do you make of this?

on top of that there is modern vs classic bazi
https://treybazi.blogspot.com/2018/02/bazi-analysis-classical-system-vs.html

thans

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