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Re: Combination 戌卯
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Re: Combination 戌卯
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2017, 10:25:55 AM »
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Puppylove quote (extract):
Hour    Day    Month    Year      2014
Bing      Ren    Jia       Ji            Jia
Wu        Xu     Xu      Wei          Wu

This is because Wu works together with the two Xu, forming a gang through fire element (This is actually greater than that afforded to Bill Gates chart), but the issue is Wu also has a tendency to try and combine with Wei. As of such,

whenever another Wu comes, this person will suffer from shortfall.
As Wei is closed off from the combination from Wu, as well as the Wu entering into the Stores (which in themselves can end up closing again as well, which is extra bad), removing the contents within Wei from use in the chart. This leaves Fire on it's own exposed, which can mean all sorts; Water would mean loss (water controlling away Fire wealth), Fire would mean lost investment (nothing to do as Wei is now closed), etc.

May be some misundertandings here. What i read from puppylove explanation is when that chart meets Wu (Horse) LP or Wu Year.
Maybe we can ask if flyingphoenix suffering downfall in 2014 because meeting Wu Year.

Bill Gates Chart
                           LP      1998
Ren   X     X        Ren     Wu
Xu     Xu   Wei     Wu      Yin

When he became centi-billionaire in 1998. Very Big gang of fire and earth and The Xu tomb opened or not.
I still think the Xu tomb still open.


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Re: Combination 戌卯
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2017, 03:16:56 PM »
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Re: Combination 戌卯
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2017, 04:21:39 PM »
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Hi Chary, All,

Thank you Chary to share this example... difficult to clarify this point...

Bill Gates chart:
http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=467.msg3957;topicseen#msg3957
http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=3447.msg33209#msg33209

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Another example with Wu-Wei and Xu:

Puppylove quote (extract):
Hour    Day    Month    Year
Bing      Ren    Jia       Ji
Wu        Xu     Xu      Wei

1. Xu in both the Day and Month work together and open up the Wei tomb (output) in the Year, which also opens up the two Xu tombs as well (wealth). This interaction simultaneously also swaps and shares images between the two. As of such, all the tombs represent Wealth and Output simultaneously. (This is the same as point 1 in the other thread)
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4. The Bing Wu hour unfrotunately is the big trouble maker here, causing the difficulty in the whole chart. This reduces the efficiacy of the whole chart compared to the one by Bill Gates.

This is because Wu works together with the two Xu, forming a gang through fire element (This is actually greater than that afforded to Bill Gates chart), but the issue is Wu also has a tendency to try and combine with Wei. As of such, whenever another Wu comes, this person will suffer from shortfall.

As Wei is closed off from the combination from Wu, as well as the Wu entering into the Stores (which in themselves can end up closing again as well, which is extra bad), removing the contents within Wei from use in the chart. This leaves Fire on it's own exposed, which can mean all sorts; Water would mean loss (water controlling away Fire wealth), Fire would mean lost investment (nothing to do as Wei is now closed), etc.

5. With the hour of Bing Wu, you also lose the biggest important factor in being able to garner loads financially. A customer. Since Bing Wu extends from the Xu Fire Stores, they are essentially the same source or work together, so they are one unit, and you can't sell products or services to yourself and expect to be able to pay yourself and still earn a profit. This leaves Wei as the sole source of earning incoming, and even this is pretty poor because Wei is constantly under threat of being closed off through combination with Wei, as well as Wei really is part of the gang of Wu Xu Xu, forming a massive gang working together.
etc...

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What makes me surprise, I dont understand the reason why Mao-Xu EBs (liu he) which work toguether for Fire purpose, seems to close the tomb of Fire (ding)?

I search with hetu... etc... I need an explanation...

Thank you

 ;D


I am quite curious.
Can someone confirm if the year branch is not Ji Wei, instead it is Gui Hai, Jia Zi, or Wu Chen. What is the difference?
Could he be rich if he is born in that chart?

Note: Let's make it simple, no month, day and hour adjustment to be logical cycle element, but still in original formation. Only change the year.

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Re: Combination 戌卯
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2017, 04:28:19 PM »
Hi @Axis yeah, it's indeed very complex haha. I give up

If Wei tomb was closed, How his product (Windows98) could become best seller worlwide.
If Xu tomb was closed, only depending on full sanhe and liuhe wu-wei to amass wealth.
Ren-Bing clash can open tomb, never heard before but maybe.
Maybe using zwds can give a clue. In 1998 Decade Wealth and Decade Property clash Wealth Tomb.

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  • Re: Combination 戌卯
    « Reply #35 on: January 09, 2017, 04:47:30 PM »
    Hi @Axis yeah, it's indeed very complex haha. I give up

    If Wei tomb was closed, How his product (Windows98) could become best seller worlwide.
    If Xu tomb was closed, only depending on full sanhe and liuhe wu-wei to amass wealth.
    Ren-Bing clash can open tomb, never heard before but maybe.
    Maybe using zwds can give a clue. In 1998 Decade Wealth and Decade Property clash Wealth Tomb.

    Xu itself is already open, Wu-wei combination is only close the wei tomb
    But, if we see the LP, it's self (Ren) sitting on wealth and hai-wu is having an anhe, DM self is obtaining wealth....

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    Re: Combination 戌卯
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    Re: Combination 戌卯
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    « Reply #38 on: January 09, 2017, 10:26:31 PM »
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    « Reply #39 on: January 10, 2017, 02:02:09 AM »
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    Re: Combination 戌卯
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    Re: Combination 戌卯
    « Reply #41 on: January 10, 2017, 09:16:25 AM »
    Dear All,

    Thank you for the study cases so far. For going back to original topic, let me offer a chart with Mao-Xu combination.

    This is taken from http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=13694.15

    1. What is Mao-Xu's intention here?  Mao (wife) subduing Xin inside Xu means subduing DM himself?

    2. This year, Ding You, You (Xin DM in branch form) will break up the Mao-Xu : Divorce and lost half of his assets? or Wife will win him to be back?

    3. How about Si-You combo? Si will help You or keep strengthen Xu for not being pierce by You?



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    Re: Combination 戌卯
    « Reply #42 on: January 30, 2017, 11:43:28 AM »
    Based on Explanation from master Jlim, The stronger earth+fire controls Hai in hour pillar.
    So it doesn't matter Xu or Wei tomb is open or not, As long as the Hai is controlled very well, He will reap a lot of money.
    Ren in LP Heavenly Stem indicated arriving money.

    HP     DM                          LP      1998
    Xin    Ren   Bing    Yi        Ren     Wu
    Hai    Xu     Xu     Wei       Wu      Yin

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    Re: Combination 戌卯
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    Re: Combination 戌卯
    « Reply #44 on: January 30, 2017, 10:30:52 PM »
    Hi @Axis
    If my analysis's accurate, in LP Geng-Chen (2012-2022) Bill Gates will have big downfall in his wealth starting in mid 2017.  ;)
    Let's see next year.

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