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  • Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « on: January 22, 2017, 02:35:03 PM »
    盲派命理:寿夭预测法
    Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)

     
    有道是:“生死由命,富贵在天。”如何才能将来人所报的八字的寿命断准?不知道大家是否遇到过一种现象,来人报出了一个死人的八字让我们预测,我就遇到过,所幸我断准了。下面我就把寿夭的预测方法讲解给大家。
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    命局的印、食伤、禄为一个人的寿元星(首选食伤,次看禄,最后选印)。当然一个八字不可能只有其中一个,或有两个或全部有,则如何处理?首选月令的印食伤禄为寿元星。
    Output and Resource elements and Salary star are the required components for examining longevity in Four Pillars. But if not all required components are available, first look at Month branch, is it any of the following components (HO, EG, DR, IR and Salary star)? If yes, use Month branch as Longevity star.
     
    如果月令没有,再选月干、日支、时干上的印食伤禄。如果月干、日支、时干上有两个或全部是印食伤禄以日支为寿元星,如果月干、时干全部是印食伤禄而日支没有,选月干上的印食伤禄为寿元星。
    If Month branch does not have the required components, then look at Month stem. If not, then look at Day branch. If not, then look at Hour stem. In this sequence. Out of these 3 (Month stem, Day branch and Hour stem), if all have required components, use Day branch as Longevity star. If Month stem and Hour stem both have required components and Day branch do not have, use Month stem as Longevity star.
     
    当寿元星弱时行克运为身体不佳;当寿元星旺时行生扶运为身体不佳;当寿元星遇绝穿时(不论旺衰)寿限到的大运。身宫、命宫遇到穿绝时寿限到的大运。(首先看寿元星,次看身命二宫)具体的流年是寿元星出现的流年,如果再为太岁、白虎、大耗、丧门、吊客更可以直断。
    When Longevity star is weak and luck period’s elements is controlling Longevity star, person’s health will be affected. When Longevity star is strong and luck period’s elements is supporting Longevity star, person’s health will be affected too. [Seems to me like same concept like DM; strong must not be supported, weak must not be controlled] When Longevity star, House of Life and House of Body encounters “chuan jue” in a decade luck pillar, person is likely to pass away within that corresponding 10 years. First, look Longevity star, then House of life and House of Body. The specific date is the year when Longevity star appears, especially if that stem/branch is also Grand Duke (for that year), White Tiger, Big Deplete, Funeral Door or Funeral Guest.
     


    [Supplement info: Read from a book, if a particular decade luck pillar’s branch controls the branch in House of Life, that decade is to be careful too! Eg; if a person’s House of Life branch is Chou, in Yin and Mao decade luck pillars, person is to be careful!]
     
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    2004年一位易友拿出一个八字给我,让我预测此人的情况。
    In 2004, a friend gave the author a bazi chart to examine the person’s current situation:

    ------------ Year ------ Month ------ Day ------- Hour
    乾造: 庚寅   癸未   甲戌   戊辰

    House of Conception:
    胎元:甲戌   

    House of Life:
    命宫:壬午

    House of Body:
    身宫:戊子

    Decade Luck pillars:
    1     11     21    31    41    51
    甲申  乙酉   丙戌  丁亥  戊子  己丑
     
    此命寿元星是癸水,很弱,一路行金水运,是故没有问题,己丑大运己土克制寿元星,而且丑土冲了寿元星的坐支(干支一体的),是寿限到了的运程。癸未年寿元星出现为应期,而且是大耗并大耗的流年。经过一番分析,我勃然大怒:“你什么意思,竟然拿个死鬼的八字。”实际此人2003年死于癌症。
    In this chart, Longevity star is Gui water and it is weak in the chart. Travelling along metal and water decade luck pillars, there is no problem. When person encounters Ji Chou luck pillar, the earth elements control the water Longevity star, Chou also clashes its sitting branch (stem & branch are together one). Person’s lifespan hence ends in that decade. In Gui Wei year (2003), the Longevity star appears and that is the year person passes away. Moreover, Big Deplete also appears that year. After analysis, the author reprimanded the friend, “Why give me a dead man’s bazi?” In reality, the person passes away in 2003 due to cancer.
     
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    我们老家有个残疾人,一日遇到我,让我为他预测。
    One day, a disabled family member gave the author his bazi chart to examine:

    ------------ Year ------ Month ------ Day ------- Hour
    乾造: 己卯   癸酉   己卯   甲戌

    House of Conception:
    胎元:甲子   

    House of Life:
    命宫:甲戌   

    House of Body:
    身宫:丙寅

    Decade Luck pillars:
    10、8    20、8    30、8    40、8   
    壬申     辛未      庚午   己巳
    50、8    60、8
    戊辰    丁卯
     
    此造的寿元星是酉金,原命局二卯夹冲,命宫穿之身宫绝之,是故断定寿数不长。丁卯运三卯冲一酉注定寿限已到,庚辰年合制酉金(受冲克之后的字遇合为合制,正如人病入膏肓时不能补,补则丧命。)断定2000年死亡。当时他把我大骂一顿。但是他在2000年的阴历二月因车祸死亡。
    In this chart, Longevity star is You metal and it is flanked and clashed by 2 Maos in the chart. House of Life “chuan jue” with House of Body. Hence person’s lifespan is not long. In Ding Mao decade luck pillar, 3 Maos clash 1 You, determining that 10 years is to be extra careful. Geng Chen year combines and controls the You metal Longevity star. Hence year 2000 is a possible death year. At that time of consultation,  he reprimanded the author severely. But eventually in year 2000’s 2nd lunar month, he passed away due to car accident.
     
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    Shone An (20 Sep 1983 – 1 Jun 2015):
     
    Wu luck pillar “chuan jue” with Longevity star Hai. In 2015 Wei year, White Tiger star appears; that year he passed away due to liver cancer.
     




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    [No time to translate the rest of case studies...]
     
    2004年参加沈阳纸的第一届易学与当代经济建设国际研讨会时,一位易友拿出一个乾造让我分析。
    乾造:癸亥   癸亥   乙酉    乙酉
    胎元:甲子 命宫:己未身宫:癸亥
    10     20    30    40   50   60
    壬戌  辛酉  庚申  己未  戊午丁巳
    寿元星是亥水,旺极而且过寒无调候,短命的标志。戊午大运午火绝寿元星,戊土克合寿元星的天干,而且此命没有调候的行到调候的运程反而不吉,大运又绝了身宫,是寿限到了的运程。戊午流年岁运并临,为应期。实际此人死于癌症。(以普通命学分析,此命有所谓的“金白水清”、“格局清纯”的说法;如果按用神、忌神的说法身旺印为忌神,行到克制忌神大运反而为吉,似乎解释不清,但是盲人 命学一步到位点出来。不过运用传统命学也可以解释清楚:乙木乃花草之木,生于冬季而无调候,乙木已然死息,水旺而木漂,此命也是短命之人。行火运水火相激 反而为凶。)
     
    2000年十月中旬一位女性易友拿来其子的八字求测。
    乾造:壬戌   辛亥   乙未    壬午
    胎元:壬寅 命宫:壬子身宫:丙午
    10       20       30
    壬子    癸丑     甲寅
    此造的寿元星是午火,原命局一定寿元星弱极,是故断定寿限短。壬子大运冲制寿元星又冲了身宫,庚辰年水旺,而且副寿元星水入此墓地,是故知此年有生命之忧。来人哭了,她的儿子患白血病在戌月死亡。
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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #1 on: January 22, 2017, 08:57:24 PM »
    A simplified Chuan Jue table:

    [reposted in 1st post]

    *Note: I think the Grand Duke here is referring to person's birth year branch, not "for that year".
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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #2 on: February 08, 2017, 11:29:38 PM »
    Another case study of Longevity star:

    Rob Stewart, born: December 28.1979 , died: January 31 2017
    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14580.0

    Thanks to @aqua .

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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #3 on: February 23, 2017, 09:36:13 PM »
    *Left out one important point:

    Earth element branches (Four Tombs) can NEVER be Longevity star(s).
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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #4 on: March 01, 2017, 03:26:27 PM »
    Additional Info from this book: (summarized points)

    Full procedure of selecting Longevity star.

    Priority of components to take as Longevity star:
    1st priority = HO
    2nd priority = EG
    3rd priority = Salary star
    4th priority = DR
    Last priority = IR
    (*If don't have HO, then take EG. If don't have EG, then take Salary star. If don't have Salary star, then take DR....and so on. *Four Tombs will NEVER be Longevity star. So if component is a Tomb, skip to next priority component.)

    Priority of locations to take as Longevity star:
    1st priority = Month branch
    2nd priority = Month stem
    3rd priority = Day branch
    4th priority = Hour stem
    5th priority = Year stem
    6th priority = Year branch
    7th priority = Hour branch
    8th priority = Houses of Life, Conception & Body
    9th priority = Day branch


    *If after satisfying the criterias in 1st post + decade luck pillar's lifestage is also Death/Grave/Repose, the book says "confirm will die".
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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #5 on: March 04, 2017, 08:34:30 PM »
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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #6 on: March 06, 2017, 08:47:18 PM »
    I think he's referring to Longevity star instead of House of Body.
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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #8 on: March 06, 2017, 10:16:43 PM »
    That book has quite a few typo-errors. I spotted quite a few myself also.

    Goes to show that even experienced professional masters are not perfect.
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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #9 on: May 03, 2017, 08:03:01 AM »
    Another example of Changing Jia Luck + Longevity star:







    In Jia Yin decade (2005–2014), that decade is “Changing Jia Luck”. From warm yang Jia changing to ice cold yin Gui. Seems like Changing Jia Luck's cause of death is mostly illness. (Master Xu Lewu also suffered from severe illness, seriously ill to the verge of death.) Text stated Changing Jia Luck during youth is "small worry" but this is not the case here.

    In 2007, there is appearance of Longevity star Hai. If following rigidly the rules, we should choose Gui as Longevity star but in practical, we need to be flexible.
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    Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #10 on: May 03, 2017, 10:12:57 PM »
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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #11 on: May 04, 2017, 03:20:38 AM »
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    ...........

    Thanks, Axis.

    If Yin hour is the correct hour, Gregory's chart would also satisfy Golden Lock & Iron Snake gate.
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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #12 on: June 05, 2017, 08:20:21 AM »
    *Note: Amended date is used for Teresa Teng's chart instead of documented date in public websites, see here for reasoning: http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14990.msg161202#msg161202.





    Due to proximity of criterias satisfied, I think there are 2 Longevity stars in Teresa Teng’s chart – Zi and Si.

    In Ji Wei decade 1990-1999, Wei pierces Zi her main Longevity star in Day branch. A dangerous decade!

    In 1995 Yi Hai year, Hai clashes Si her 2nd Longevity star in Year branch. With both Longevity stars clashed, 1995 is a dangerous year! She passed away that year while holidaying in Thailand.
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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #13 on: June 05, 2017, 09:12:58 AM »
    *Note: Amended date is used for Teresa Teng's chart instead of documented date in public websites, see here for reasoning: http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14990.msg161202#msg161202.





    Due to proximity of criterias satisfied, I think there are 2 Longevity stars in Teresa Teng’s chart – Zi and Si.

    In Ji Wei decade 1990-1999, Wei pierces Zi her main Longevity star in Day branch. A dangerous decade!

    In 1995 Yi Hai year, Hai clashes Si her 2nd Longevity star in Year branch. With both Longevity stars clashed, 1995 is a dangerous year! She passed away that year while holidaying in Thailand.

    Interesting, it makes more sense about what happen to her. Also your correct on 1995 being a dangerous year.

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  • Re: Longevity star in Bazi (Blindman sect)
    « Reply #14 on: June 05, 2017, 09:11:59 PM »
    For Teresa Teng's case, also observed that:

    - Death Decade pillar also fu yin with House of Life.
    - She passed away in a Heaven Void year within a Heaven Void decade.

    Heaven Void is also noted as criteria of death: See #10 in http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=2089.0
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    Last post June 19, 2019, 06:11:05 PM
    by j27945
    Please read my bazi/ zwds

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    Last post June 13, 2019, 04:07:52 PM
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    Bazi Body palace

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    Anyone able to help read bazi/zwds?

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    by donaldpyw
    Bazi chart

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    by fan
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    Last post May 25, 2019, 05:13:52 PM
    by Sui
    Willingly do my bazi future and personality reading?

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    Last post May 19, 2019, 05:42:56 PM
    by Sui
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    by Wooden river
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    by kuguakugua
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    by Joey
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    Last post May 10, 2019, 04:20:08 AM
    by ren
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    Started by sopaBoard Request for birth chart reading [FREE]

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    Last post May 19, 2019, 02:39:25 PM
    by sopa
    Relationship, career. Need inputs, Bazi or ZWDS welcome

    Started by Shdqo0924Board Request for birth chart reading [FREE]

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    Last post May 06, 2019, 11:37:58 AM
    by Shdqo0924
    Usaha yang bisa sukses menurut petunjuk bazi chart dan zwds

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    by ali78
    Correct Bazi Chart to use

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    Last post May 05, 2019, 05:51:28 PM
    by Chat time
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    Last post May 13, 2019, 02:31:37 PM
    by FlyingKite
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    by Castor

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