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    « on: March 30, 2019, 01:33:59 PM »
    Hi all, hope you can help with reading my chart.
    I'm a male, born with a twin brother on 24 May 2000, 12:45PM in Singapore.
    My twin brother was born 12:44PM, so I'm the younger brother.

    Have a few questions

    1. Is this a fake follower chart? Since my resource stars 庚 and 辛 are rooted within 巳,but it is being countered by 丙 beside it. Also, 巳 is when fire qi is thriving, metal qi is dead, so the 庚 and 辛 in the stems are dead, making this chart a fake follower chart? Please enlighten me.

    2. I see 空亡 in my 甲申 and 乙酉 luck pillars. How will this affect my natal chart or is there anything that will happen? What is 空亡 really?

    I'm turning 19 soon, so I will give a brief summary of my life, you will find it interesting as me and my twin brother have the same bazi chart, live in the same family but we lead vastly different lives.

    -BRIEF SUMMARY OF OUR(me and my brother) LIFE SO FAR-

    -My father had us when he was 45(quite old already), and it was through IVF (in-vitro fertilisation), we were both born 30 weeks premature, and I had an operation when I was months old, my brother did not have any operation. Hence, we both had many health problems even up to now, such as digestive issues and easy to get "heaty".

    -I had asthma when I was 3 years old but then it was only a one time attack, and didn't happen anymore, my brother had no asthma.

    -Starting from age 3, my father always had serious arguments with my mother, their marriage was very unhappy.

    -3 years old, my mother took me and my brother to Malaysia to hide from my father.

    -4 years old, my father finally found us and brought us back to Singapore, only to discover my brother was having 42 degrees high fever and severely traumatised, leading to him having severe autism. (I don't have autism)

    -Time went by, they went for lawsuits to fight over custody, my father won and at the age of 7, my father divorced my mother and my mother left us, I have never seen since then.

    -My father remarried to my stepmother

    -My brother attended a special school MINDS, while I attended primary school.

    -My results were average, I got a PSLE score of 220, enough to head to an express stream in a neighbourhood secondary school.

    -Throughout these years, me and my brother body was weak, always fell sick, get fever, flu, cough, sore throat.

    -At the age of 15, on a June, one fateful day, my brother had a seizure, and since then until today, he already has over 30 seizure episodes and diagnosed with epilepsy.

    -I do not have epilepsy, but at 15 years old, I had frequent fights with my father, from young until now I just cannot seem to go along well with my father and stepmother. If we start a conversation, it will eventually end up in a fight.

    -I have to declare that my brother has serious behavioural problems and my father, have a very bad temper, from age 7 until now always use cane to cane my brother and even sometimes use hand to punch, got one time even try to use pillow to suffocate my brother.

    -At the age of 16, when I was Secondary 4, things were tough as my father was diagnosed with depression, and I was always scared and worried of my brother seizure attacks, as it looks really scary. It's a grand mal seizure where the whole body would jerk. My father was always in and out of the hospital, and when he come back, he will get into fights with my brother.

    -I did decent for my 'O' levels, getting L1R5 of 13 and L1R4 of 10.

    -Age of 17, I went into banking and finance course in Singapore Polytechnic.

    -On a January of 2018, I had some savings of about $1200, and my friends told me to buy cryptocurrency. I went all in, and lost all my money.

    -Results wise, I have been doing average in polytechnic, with a cumulative GPA of 3.71, and my third and final year starting in 2 weeks.

    -My brother is ok, his seizure attacks have decreased but would still get it from time to time. He still makes a lot of noise due to his behavioural problems.

    -For me, my body constitution have been very weak from young, I tend to get "heaty" very easily, so I abstain from all fried and spicy foods, if not will get fever, sore throat, flu, and it feels like shit.

    ---I guess this pretty much summarises my life until now---

    I know this post is very long, any opinions would be greatly appreciated. I would like to sincerely thank those who replied and even more so to those who took the time to read my story. All this that happened made me want answers, hence I went to study Chinese metaphysics. I guess most things in life are already pre-determined by what you do last life. The fact that my brother has this scary disease epilepsy and I do not have it(not that I want to have it) shows that karma is real. He did many bad deeds such as killing last life, and this life he has to pay back. As for me, my father, and my stepmother, we all owe my brother last life so this life we have to take care of him and suffer alongside him. Thank you!


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  • Re: Need Help on Bazi of Twins
    « Reply #1 on: March 31, 2019, 12:56:08 AM »
    I can understand u and what u have gone thru.

    Read this. http://www.btrts.org.sg/zodic.php

    You may wanna consider this and lamp offering when u step into the work force.

    I would say you are suitable for metaphysics subject. But metaphysics will not turn your life around. It merely help you be more aware and accepting to things around you.

    Since you have the wisdom to approach this subject and it rather affinity I read it. I just be frank that we cannot change that had been and it shouldn't hinder us from the path of enlightenment. Beyond this pain and suffering is greatness. You see. You only have this life to move closer to enlightenment and move above all relams.
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  • Re: Need Help on Bazi of Twins
    « Reply #2 on: March 31, 2019, 12:43:21 PM »
    I can understand u and what u have gone thru.

    Read this. http://www.btrts.org.sg/zodic.php

    You may wanna consider this and lamp offering when u step into the work force.

    I would say you are suitable for metaphysics subject. But metaphysics will not turn your life around. It merely help you be more aware and accepting to things around you.

    Since you have the wisdom to approach this subject and it rather affinity I read it. I just be frank that we cannot change that had been and it shouldn't hinder us from the path of enlightenment. Beyond this pain and suffering is greatness. You see. You only have this life to move closer to enlightenment and move above all relams.

    Hi Jovan, thanks for the reply. Sorry but I don't believe in these zodiac protectors. I'm a buddhist and strongly believe in buddhism. Venerable Master Chin Kung once said 怎么样才能发财? 要看命里有没有。你命里没有你想什么样的方法你都发不了财. Hence I don't think those zodiac protectors would bring me any benefit. One's life is already largely predestined and yes, there is a way to change destiny, meaning to transcend one's bazi chart, and it can be learnt from a book called 了凡四训, which I have already read and basically its trying to say we should cultivate kindness and compassion, doing more good deeds to change one's destiny. I am actually more concerned about the 2 questions I asked. Hoping you can answer them. Thank you!

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    « Reply #3 on: March 31, 2019, 01:17:13 PM »

    1. Is this a fake follower chart? Since my resource stars 庚 and 辛 are rooted within 巳,but it is being countered by 丙 beside it. Also, 巳 is when fire qi is thriving, metal qi is dead, so the 庚 and 辛 in the stems are dead, making this chart a fake follower chart? Please enlighten me.
    >> This chart cannot follow.

    2. I see 空亡 in my 甲申 and 乙酉 luck pillars. How will this affect my natal chart or is there anything that will happen? What is 空亡 really?
    >> Mean empty in form. In luck pillar just mean that luck not true. Must see if it is useful element or not.
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  • Re: Need Help on Bazi of Twins
    « Reply #4 on: March 31, 2019, 09:37:51 PM »
    By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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  • Re: Need Help on Bazi of Twins
    « Reply #5 on: April 02, 2019, 04:04:50 PM »
    Hi all, hope you can help with reading my chart.
    I'm a male, born with a twin brother on 24 May 2000, 12:45PM in Singapore.
    My twin brother was born 12:44PM, so I'm the younger brother.

    Have a few questions

    1. Is this a fake follower chart? Since my resource stars 庚 and 辛 are rooted within 巳,but it is being countered by 丙 beside it. Also, 巳 is when fire qi is thriving, metal qi is dead, so the 庚 and 辛 in the stems are dead, making this chart a fake follower chart? Please enlighten me.

    2. I see 空亡 in my 甲申 and 乙酉 luck pillars. How will this affect my natal chart or is there anything that will happen? What is 空亡 really?

    I'm turning 19 soon, so I will give a brief summary of my life, you will find it interesting as me and my twin brother have the same bazi chart, live in the same family but we lead vastly different lives.

    -BRIEF SUMMARY OF OUR(me and my brother) LIFE SO FAR-

    -My father had us when he was 45(quite old already), and it was through IVF (in-vitro fertilisation), we were both born 30 weeks premature, and I had an operation when I was months old, my brother did not have any operation. Hence, we both had many health problems even up to now, such as digestive issues and easy to get "heaty".

    -I had asthma when I was 3 years old but then it was only a one time attack, and didn't happen anymore, my brother had no asthma.

    -Starting from age 3, my father always had serious arguments with my mother, their marriage was very unhappy.

    -3 years old, my mother took me and my brother to Malaysia to hide from my father.

    -4 years old, my father finally found us and brought us back to Singapore, only to discover my brother was having 42 degrees high fever and severely traumatised, leading to him having severe autism. (I don't have autism)

    -Time went by, they went for lawsuits to fight over custody, my father won and at the age of 7, my father divorced my mother and my mother left us, I have never seen since then.

    -My father remarried to my stepmother

    -My brother attended a special school MINDS, while I attended primary school.

    -My results were average, I got a PSLE score of 220, enough to head to an express stream in a neighbourhood secondary school.

    -Throughout these years, me and my brother body was weak, always fell sick, get fever, flu, cough, sore throat.

    -At the age of 15, on a June, one fateful day, my brother had a seizure, and since then until today, he already has over 30 seizure episodes and diagnosed with epilepsy.

    -I do not have epilepsy, but at 15 years old, I had frequent fights with my father, from young until now I just cannot seem to go along well with my father and stepmother. If we start a conversation, it will eventually end up in a fight.

    -I have to declare that my brother has serious behavioural problems and my father, have a very bad temper, from age 7 until now always use cane to cane my brother and even sometimes use hand to punch, got one time even try to use pillow to suffocate my brother.

    -At the age of 16, when I was Secondary 4, things were tough as my father was diagnosed with depression, and I was always scared and worried of my brother seizure attacks, as it looks really scary. It's a grand mal seizure where the whole body would jerk. My father was always in and out of the hospital, and when he come back, he will get into fights with my brother.

    -I did decent for my 'O' levels, getting L1R5 of 13 and L1R4 of 10.

    -Age of 17, I went into banking and finance course in Singapore Polytechnic.

    -On a January of 2018, I had some savings of about $1200, and my friends told me to buy cryptocurrency. I went all in, and lost all my money.

    -Results wise, I have been doing average in polytechnic, with a cumulative GPA of 3.71, and my third and final year starting in 2 weeks.

    -My brother is ok, his seizure attacks have decreased but would still get it from time to time. He still makes a lot of noise due to his behavioural problems.

    -For me, my body constitution have been very weak from young, I tend to get "heaty" very easily, so I abstain from all fried and spicy foods, if not will get fever, sore throat, flu, and it feels like shit.

    ---I guess this pretty much summarises my life until now---

    I know this post is very long, any opinions would be greatly appreciated. I would like to sincerely thank those who replied and even more so to those who took the time to read my story. All this that happened made me want answers, hence I went to study Chinese metaphysics. I guess most things in life are already pre-determined by what you do last life. The fact that my brother has this scary disease epilepsy and I do not have it(not that I want to have it) shows that karma is real. He did many bad deeds such as killing last life, and this life he has to pay back. As for me, my father, and my stepmother, we all owe my brother last life so this life we have to take care of him and suffer alongside him. Thank you!

    from familial perspective, resource represents mother influence. wealth represent father influence.
    fire counters metal.
    could be too many other elements to be a true follower chart.

    空亡 Kong Wang is when there is no access to the earthly branch Qi in that cycle for you.
    it belonged actually to the next cycle.
    kong wang is always referring to the earthly branch, not the heavenly stem.
    seems to be there but also not really there.
    there are many symptoms of kong wang: lost, prosperous, lose...etc and many more.

    i believe you are fraternal twins.



    please quote me when want me to respond.
    when requesting bazi reading,
    please attach your bazi chart as jpg format using http://bazi.masteryacademy.com/ or
    https://bazi-calculator.com

    Chinese metaphysics does not dictate your future.
    You are still responsible for your own Life.

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  • Re: Need Help on Bazi of Twins
    « Reply #6 on: April 03, 2019, 06:06:58 PM »
    Hi all, hope you can help with reading my chart.
    I'm a male, born with a twin brother on 24 May 2000, 12:45PM in Singapore.
    My twin brother was born 12:44PM, so I'm the younger brother.

    Have a few questions

    1. Is this a fake follower chart? Since my resource stars 庚 and 辛 are rooted within 巳,but it is being countered by 丙 beside it. Also, 巳 is when fire qi is thriving, metal qi is dead, so the 庚 and 辛 in the stems are dead, making this chart a fake follower chart? Please enlighten me.

    2. I see 空亡 in my 甲申 and 乙酉 luck pillars. How will this affect my natal chart or is there anything that will happen? What is 空亡 really?

    I'm turning 19 soon, so I will give a brief summary of my life, you will find it interesting as me and my twin brother have the same bazi chart, live in the same family but we lead vastly different lives.

    -BRIEF SUMMARY OF OUR(me and my brother) LIFE SO FAR-

    -My father had us when he was 45(quite old already), and it was through IVF (in-vitro fertilisation), we were both born 30 weeks premature, and I had an operation when I was months old, my brother did not have any operation. Hence, we both had many health problems even up to now, such as digestive issues and easy to get "heaty".

    -I had asthma when I was 3 years old but then it was only a one time attack, and didn't happen anymore, my brother had no asthma.

    -Starting from age 3, my father always had serious arguments with my mother, their marriage was very unhappy.

    -3 years old, my mother took me and my brother to Malaysia to hide from my father.

    -4 years old, my father finally found us and brought us back to Singapore, only to discover my brother was having 42 degrees high fever and severely traumatised, leading to him having severe autism. (I don't have autism)

    -Time went by, they went for lawsuits to fight over custody, my father won and at the age of 7, my father divorced my mother and my mother left us, I have never seen since then.

    -My father remarried to my stepmother

    -My brother attended a special school MINDS, while I attended primary school.

    -My results were average, I got a PSLE score of 220, enough to head to an express stream in a neighbourhood secondary school.

    -Throughout these years, me and my brother body was weak, always fell sick, get fever, flu, cough, sore throat.

    -At the age of 15, on a June, one fateful day, my brother had a seizure, and since then until today, he already has over 30 seizure episodes and diagnosed with epilepsy.

    -I do not have epilepsy, but at 15 years old, I had frequent fights with my father, from young until now I just cannot seem to go along well with my father and stepmother. If we start a conversation, it will eventually end up in a fight.

    -I have to declare that my brother has serious behavioural problems and my father, have a very bad temper, from age 7 until now always use cane to cane my brother and even sometimes use hand to punch, got one time even try to use pillow to suffocate my brother.

    -At the age of 16, when I was Secondary 4, things were tough as my father was diagnosed with depression, and I was always scared and worried of my brother seizure attacks, as it looks really scary. It's a grand mal seizure where the whole body would jerk. My father was always in and out of the hospital, and when he come back, he will get into fights with my brother.

    -I did decent for my 'O' levels, getting L1R5 of 13 and L1R4 of 10.

    -Age of 17, I went into banking and finance course in Singapore Polytechnic.

    -On a January of 2018, I had some savings of about $1200, and my friends told me to buy cryptocurrency. I went all in, and lost all my money.

    -Results wise, I have been doing average in polytechnic, with a cumulative GPA of 3.71, and my third and final year starting in 2 weeks.

    -My brother is ok, his seizure attacks have decreased but would still get it from time to time. He still makes a lot of noise due to his behavioural problems.

    -For me, my body constitution have been very weak from young, I tend to get "heaty" very easily, so I abstain from all fried and spicy foods, if not will get fever, sore throat, flu, and it feels like shit.

    ---I guess this pretty much summarises my life until now---

    I know this post is very long, any opinions would be greatly appreciated. I would like to sincerely thank those who replied and even more so to those who took the time to read my story. All this that happened made me want answers, hence I went to study Chinese metaphysics. I guess most things in life are already pre-determined by what you do last life. The fact that my brother has this scary disease epilepsy and I do not have it(not that I want to have it) shows that karma is real. He did many bad deeds such as killing last life, and this life he has to pay back. As for me, my father, and my stepmother, we all owe my brother last life so this life we have to take care of him and suffer alongside him. Thank you!

    from familial perspective, resource represents mother influence. wealth represent father influence.
    fire counters metal.
    could be too many other elements to be a true follower chart.

    空亡 Kong Wang is when there is no access to the earthly branch Qi in that cycle for you.
    it belonged actually to the next cycle.
    kong wang is always referring to the earthly branch, not the heavenly stem.
    seems to be there but also not really there.
    there are many symptoms of kong wang: lost, prosperous, lose...etc and many more.

    i believe you are fraternal twins.

    Yeah we are fraternal twins, how do you know that haha. Does this means for my 甲申 and 乙酉 luck pillars I'm still using the earthly branch qi of my current luck pillar which is 癸未?

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  • Re: Need Help on Bazi of Twins
    « Reply #7 on: April 06, 2019, 01:03:54 PM »
    Hi all, hope you can help with reading my chart.
    I'm a male, born with a twin brother on 24 May 2000, 12:45PM in Singapore.
    My twin brother was born 12:44PM, so I'm the younger brother.

    Have a few questions

    1. Is this a fake follower chart? Since my resource stars 庚 and 辛 are rooted within 巳,but it is being countered by 丙 beside it. Also, 巳 is when fire qi is thriving, metal qi is dead, so the 庚 and 辛 in the stems are dead, making this chart a fake follower chart? Please enlighten me.

    2. I see 空亡 in my 甲申 and 乙酉 luck pillars. How will this affect my natal chart or is there anything that will happen? What is 空亡 really?

    I'm turning 19 soon, so I will give a brief summary of my life, you will find it interesting as me and my twin brother have the same bazi chart, live in the same family but we lead vastly different lives.

    -BRIEF SUMMARY OF OUR(me and my brother) LIFE SO FAR-

    -My father had us when he was 45(quite old already), and it was through IVF (in-vitro fertilisation), we were both born 30 weeks premature, and I had an operation when I was months old, my brother did not have any operation. Hence, we both had many health problems even up to now, such as digestive issues and easy to get "heaty".

    -I had asthma when I was 3 years old but then it was only a one time attack, and didn't happen anymore, my brother had no asthma.

    -Starting from age 3, my father always had serious arguments with my mother, their marriage was very unhappy.

    -3 years old, my mother took me and my brother to Malaysia to hide from my father.

    -4 years old, my father finally found us and brought us back to Singapore, only to discover my brother was having 42 degrees high fever and severely traumatised, leading to him having severe autism. (I don't have autism)

    -Time went by, they went for lawsuits to fight over custody, my father won and at the age of 7, my father divorced my mother and my mother left us, I have never seen since then.

    -My father remarried to my stepmother

    -My brother attended a special school MINDS, while I attended primary school.

    -My results were average, I got a PSLE score of 220, enough to head to an express stream in a neighbourhood secondary school.

    -Throughout these years, me and my brother body was weak, always fell sick, get fever, flu, cough, sore throat.

    -At the age of 15, on a June, one fateful day, my brother had a seizure, and since then until today, he already has over 30 seizure episodes and diagnosed with epilepsy.

    -I do not have epilepsy, but at 15 years old, I had frequent fights with my father, from young until now I just cannot seem to go along well with my father and stepmother. If we start a conversation, it will eventually end up in a fight.

    -I have to declare that my brother has serious behavioural problems and my father, have a very bad temper, from age 7 until now always use cane to cane my brother and even sometimes use hand to punch, got one time even try to use pillow to suffocate my brother.

    -At the age of 16, when I was Secondary 4, things were tough as my father was diagnosed with depression, and I was always scared and worried of my brother seizure attacks, as it looks really scary. It's a grand mal seizure where the whole body would jerk. My father was always in and out of the hospital, and when he come back, he will get into fights with my brother.

    -I did decent for my 'O' levels, getting L1R5 of 13 and L1R4 of 10.

    -Age of 17, I went into banking and finance course in Singapore Polytechnic.

    -On a January of 2018, I had some savings of about $1200, and my friends told me to buy cryptocurrency. I went all in, and lost all my money.

    -Results wise, I have been doing average in polytechnic, with a cumulative GPA of 3.71, and my third and final year starting in 2 weeks.

    -My brother is ok, his seizure attacks have decreased but would still get it from time to time. He still makes a lot of noise due to his behavioural problems.

    -For me, my body constitution have been very weak from young, I tend to get "heaty" very easily, so I abstain from all fried and spicy foods, if not will get fever, sore throat, flu, and it feels like shit.

    ---I guess this pretty much summarises my life until now---

    I know this post is very long, any opinions would be greatly appreciated. I would like to sincerely thank those who replied and even more so to those who took the time to read my story. All this that happened made me want answers, hence I went to study Chinese metaphysics. I guess most things in life are already pre-determined by what you do last life. The fact that my brother has this scary disease epilepsy and I do not have it(not that I want to have it) shows that karma is real. He did many bad deeds such as killing last life, and this life he has to pay back. As for me, my father, and my stepmother, we all owe my brother last life so this life we have to take care of him and suffer alongside him. Thank you!

    from familial perspective, resource represents mother influence. wealth represent father influence.
    fire counters metal.
    could be too many other elements to be a true follower chart.

    空亡 Kong Wang is when there is no access to the earthly branch Qi in that cycle for you.
    it belonged actually to the next cycle.
    kong wang is always referring to the earthly branch, not the heavenly stem.
    seems to be there but also not really there.
    there are many symptoms of kong wang: lost, prosperous, lose...etc and many more.

    i believe you are fraternal twins.

    Yeah we are fraternal twins, how do you know that haha. Does this means for my 甲申 and 乙酉 luck pillars I'm still using the earthly branch qi of my current luck pillar which is 癸未?

    if we are looking at the luck pillars of
    甲申,乙酉,癸未,
    it means you need to work hard now,
    get good grades and gain recognition over time.
    please quote me when want me to respond.
    when requesting bazi reading,
    please attach your bazi chart as jpg format using http://bazi.masteryacademy.com/ or
    https://bazi-calculator.com

    Chinese metaphysics does not dictate your future.
    You are still responsible for your own Life.

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    Re: Need Help on Bazi of Twins
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