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    盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading

    «Ah Fu on: May 24, 2010, 10:22:16 PM »

    Here's a translation I did for the Blindman style. There's plenty of places where it's probably translated wrong (hence the brackets and ?) so if others want to correct it, that would be great. Otherwise for the most part, the important bits should be there.

    * Sha should be referring to 7 Killings I believe


    盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading


    先天何處,後天何處,要知來處,便知去處。
    Where is before and where is afterwards? Know the past before moving forward
    四柱排定,三才次分,年干為本,配合元神。
    The four pillars are set, the three wealth/talent divided. The heavenly stem is root/base combined with the help of gods.
    神煞相伴,輕重較量,先觀月令,論格推詳。
    Shen Sha (Gods and Killings) are similar, their importance disputed. First look at the month pillar before looking at the chart type for details.
    以月為主,專論財官,區分貴賤,妙法多端。
    Using the month pillar as the focal point, deduce the wealth (and post? As in career position). Rank the grade, methods are plenty.
    獨則易取,亂則難明,去留舒配,論格要精。
    A single element is easy to understand but a disarray of many makes it difficult. Coming and going make a pair, discussing about structures require insight.
    官能扶本,財為命源,印綬護身,喜忌細辨。
    Officers can support the base, Wealth as the beginning of life, Resources protect the Self, Useful and Annoying Gods are not widely discussed/disputed/distinguished
    逢官看財,見財富貴,逢煞看印,遇印榮華。
    Meet officers and see Wealth, See Wealth with nobility, Meet Sha and see Resources, Meet Resources and gain fame/glory
    有官有印,為官清貴,煞印相聚,功各顯達。
    With Officers and Resources, this Official will be noble (and honest?). Sha and Resources together, achievements will be visible
    « Last Edit: May 24, 2010, 10:38:58 PM by ah_fu »


    年月官星,早年出仕,日時正貴,晚歲得名。
    If the Year and Month pillars control the stars, one will begin work at a young age. If the hour pillar is direct wealth, then at old age, one will enjoy glory/fame.
    一官清貴,四海揚名,一官騎馬,聰慧過人。
    One Officer (in the chart) is noble, his name known across the world. One Officer riding on a horse, he is smarter than most people.
    日主強旺,月提得祿,一見財官,自然髮福。
    The daymaster is strong and the month pillar embodies lu/luk (prosperity), once they see Wealth they will easily amass fortune
    官畏煞運,煞懼官臨,官煞重逢,制服有功。
    Officers fear Sha (Killings) and Sha (Killings) fears Officers. If Officers and Sha (Killings) meet, the subdue was successful.
    去官留煞,莫再見官,留官去煞,莫再見煞。
    If the Officer goes and the Sha remains, will not see Officer again. If Officer remains and Sha goes, will not see Sha again. (Should be referring to your birth chart and luck periods)
    月令財官,見之髮福,祿位高強,比肩奪福。
    If the month pillar commands Wealth, then when they meet, they will amass fortune. If lu/luk (Prosperity) is strong, Bi Jian (Friend) will steal wealth.
    正官畏祿,祿懼七煞,流年遇之,災殃易髮。
    If Direct Officer is in prosperous state (Lu/Luk) then Prosperity fears the 7 Killings (Indirect Officer). If they meet, disasters will easily occur.
    官星喜露,露則清高,煞藏官露,惡隱善揚。
    If Officer Star is revealed, will denote good outcomes. If Sha is hidden and Officers are revealed, evil will also be hidden and good deeds revealed.
    官煞混雜,身弱則貧,官煞兩停,合煞為貴。
    If the self is weak and the Officers and Sha are mixed up, both Officers and Sha will stop fighting. Peace will occur.

    年官月傷,祖強父弱,官逢死絕,子嗣難得。
    Year pillar with Officer and Month Pillar with Hurting Officer, ancestors are strong but father is weak. Officer meets death, descendants are hard to come by.
    財星要藏,藏則豐厚,財旺生官,少貴多富。
    Wealth stars need to be hidden, the deeper the better. Wealth as prosperous gives birth to Officers. Fewer nobleman/assistance but more wealth.
    財遇長生,田肥萬頃,財星帶耗,棄子離妻。
    Wealth in Growth stage (Chang Sheng), fields will be fertile (good harvest/attain wealth). Wealth star in Burial stage, husband will leave wife.
    財莫逢劫,印多最妙,財多破印,刑傷更糟。
    Wealth should not encounter Rob Wealth, Plenty of Resource is best. Lots of wealth destroys Resource and Punishment/Hurting Officers are even worse.
    命有偏財,必得橫財,正財遭劫,預見妻災。
    If life has Indirect Wealth, fortune must be ill-gotten. If Direct Wealth meets Rob Wealth, spouse will suffer disaster.
    先財後印,及成其福,先印後財,即為其辱。
    First Wealth then Resources, wealth must be yours. First Resource then Wealth, humiliation will occur.
    印綬比肩,喜行財鄉,印無比肩,忌見財鄉。
    Resource with Friend (Bi Jian), journey to the place of wealth. Resource with no Friend (Bi Jian), avoid seeing Wealth.
    財官印綬,大忌比肩,傷官七煞,及助為權。
    Wealth officer with Resource, should avoid having Friend (Bi Jian). Hurting officer with 7 killings (Indirect Officer), will assist in obtaining power.
    時上偏財,怕逢兄弟,月上逢財,比主不忌。
    Indirect wealth on top of hour pillar, afraid of meeting brothers (direct wealth?). Wealth on top of month pillar, not afraid of Bi Jian (Friend).
    財旺生官,夫唱婦隨,財輕逢劫,三妻齊眉。
    Wealth as prosperous gives birth to Officers, husband and wife will be in harmony. Wealth briefly meets Rob Wealth, three wives will be in sync (*Should be referring to back in the day when men could have multiple wives).
    財官印綬,破則無功,煞傷梟劫,去之發福。
    Wealth officer with Resource, unsuccessful in breaking law/foundation. 7 Killings and Hurting Officers know how to rob, will go to get wealth (Not too sure about translation for this)
    以財為父,以印為母,財印兩全,椿萱並茂。
    Wealth as father, Resource as mother, the existence of both means parents are alive and doing well.
    財星得祿,父命悠長,印綬被傷,母命早朝。
    Wealth obtains Prosperity (Lu/Luk), father’s life will be long. Resource with Hurting Officer, mother’s life will be short.
    正官逢印,名利暢順,傷官逢財,名利自來。
    Direct Officer meets Resource, life will be smooth. Hurting Officer meets Wealth, wealth and prosperity will be self-created.
    印授遭傷,祖業難守,財輕被劫,家園凋零。
    If Resource gets weakened by Hurting Officer, ancestor’s/family business will be hard to keep/maintain. If Wealth overshadows Rob Wealth, family fortune will be empty.
    陰陽失位,父母俱亡,財源被劫,父命先喪。
    Yin and yang loses place, parents will die together. Wealth accompanies Rob Wealth, father will die first.
    財絕官囚,妻遲子晚,女旺食官,子秀夫榮。
    Wealth in End (Jue) stage and Officer imprisoned, marriage and children will be late. Women with Eating Officer in prosperity, husband and children will be outstanding.
    年沖月令,離鄉之客,財輕劫耗,浪蕩之人。
    Year clashes with month order, will leave the birthplace. Wealth is few and Rob Wealth consumes, person will be a wanderer.
    « Last Edit: May 24, 2010, 10:38:24 PM by ah_fu »

    比肩扶身,兄弟酒樂,傷梟兩備,子懦妻愚。
    Friend (Bi Jian) helps the Self, brothers will indulge in wine/alcoholism. 2 Hurting Officers (not entirely sure if it’s 2 HO), children will be weak and wife foolish/stupid.
    兄楚弟秦,命落空亡,父南子北,身居絕地。
    Older brother as (state of) Chu and Younger brother as Qin (first dynasty of China), life will end empty. Father in South and son in North, Home will not have land.
    傷強主弱,入墓身亡,煞重身輕,難逃定數。
    Hurting Officer as strong, Self as weak, enter the burial (mou) stage/luck pillar and one will die. 7 Killings as heavy and self is weak, hard to escape death.
    煞重劫多,父亡外土,傷梟備齊,子喪他邦。
    7 Killings and Rob Wealth plenty, father will die in foreign lands. Hurting officer as conforming (unsure), son will die for the nation/state.
    七煞會命,瘩杖難逃,三刑遇劫,肩枷帶鎖。
    7 Killings meets life/destiny, hard to escape from the cane/walking stick. Three punishments meet Rob Wealth, shoulders will become locked/paralyzed.
    比肩成局,幾度新郎,讀書識廣,時上逢生。
    Friend (Bi Jian) becomes structure, a few new grooms (multiple marriages?). Knowledge will be broad (if) top of hour pillars meets birth/growth (stage).
    馬瘦官破,困守窮土,祿旺財半,崢嶸仕途。
    Officer with skinny horse is broken/ruined and is to remain protecting a barren poor land. Prosperity as prosperous with wealth in half, will go down a majestic road in government service.
    印綬逢生,母當賢貴,偏官歸祿,父必崢榮。
    Resource at growth stage, mother will be talented. Indirect Officer at prosperity, father will be glorious.
    煞遇長生,女招貧夫,妻星失令,半路拋離。
    7 Killings meets growth stage, females will marry a poor husband. Wife star loses order, spouse will run away.
    父星臨庫,父當先死,比肩逢祿,兄弟名高。
    Father star to oversee storehouse, father will die first. Friend (Bi jian) encounters prosperity, siblings will be famous
    日逢空寡,妻多生離,時值孤祿,子多不肖。
    Daymaster meets emptiness, multiple spouses will come and go. Hour pillar as the only one in prosperity, children will be plenty but no good.
    日干支同,損財傷妻,身支年同,破蕩祖基。
    Day branch and stem are the same, damage wealth and spouse. Day branch and Year branch are the same, destroy ancestral foundation.
    傷官見官,為禍百端,輕者傷軀,重者囚監。
    Hurting Officer sees Officer, hundred calamities will occur. Few officers in chart will result in hurting the body while lots of officers will result in imprisonment.
    年上傷官,父母不全,月上傷官,兄弟不完。
    Top of year pillar contains hurting officer, parents will not be around/exist. Top of month pillar contains hurting officer, siblings will not be around/exist.
    日上傷官,難為配偶,時上傷官,子孫無傳。
    Top of day pillar contains hurting officer, will overburden spouse. Top of hour pillar contains hurting officer, may not have children.
    合多主晦,沖多主凶,辰多好闊,戌多好訟。
    Lots of combinations in chart, person will be unlucky/pessimistic. Lots of clashes and person will be evil/unlucky/barbaric/fearsome. Lots of Chen 辰 and will be generous. Lots of Xu 戌 and will like to argue/encounter lawsuit/bring justice (?)
    時日空亡,難在妻子,時從衰敗,不死也災。
    Hour+Day Pillar with Void Star (Kong Wang), spouse and children will experience difficult life. Hour pillar in deterioration stage, will die or experience great disaster
    印綬疊見,剋子為患,四柱傷官,子息不安。
    Repeated/Multiple (same) Resource elements or four pillars with hurting officers, children will cause worries.
    « Last Edit: May 25, 2010, 10:23:00 AM by ah_fu »

    時煞逢沖,羊刃無制,女多產厄,男犯刑傷。
    Hour pillar 7 killings meets clash, Yang Ren with no control, females will have difficulties during childbirth and males will suffer injuries/punishments.
    印綬被傷,早年喪母,財源被劫,父命早傾。
    Resource matches Hurting Officer, mother will die early. Source of Wealth gets robbed (by Rob Wealth), father will die early
    兄弟身旺,父命有失,財多破印,早年剋母。
    Siblings as prosperous, father will die early. Lots of wealth destroys Resource, mother will die early.
    時日對沖,傷妻剋子,日通月令,得祖安身。
    Hour and Day clash, will hurt wife and children. Day flows with month directive, will be able to retire early.
    身旺無依,離祖出家,日破沖提,弦斷再續。
    Self prosperous with no support, will leave home/parents for other places. Day breaks clash, broken string (relationships?) will continue.
    時逢七煞,命中無兒,干上食神,有子必貴。
    Hour pillar meets 7 killings, life will have no son. Top of stem contains Eating God, will have son but not useful.
    無傷不貴,有病為奇,宜當稟之,妙理於斯。
    No hurting officer means no help/nobility. If one has any sickness, that would be strange.
    用火愁水,用木愁金,輕重難分,禍福自真。
    Use fire to colect water, use wood to collect metal. The right ratio is hard to distinguish. Wealth or disaster, it’s for one to decide/obtain.
    寅申巳亥,四生之局,男犯興旺,女犯孤獨。
    Yin, Shen, Si, Hai, 4 types of structure. Males will offend prosperity and females will offend solitude
    氣進氣退,命物相爭,進氣不死,退氣不生。
    Air/Energy advances and retreats. Life is similar – breathe in and not die, breathe out and not live.

    提綱有用,最怕刑沖,沖運則緩,沖用則凶。
    The worse things are punishments and clashes. Clash with luck pillars, things go slow. Clash with something useful, evil/bad things will occur.
    四柱干支,喜行合化,財官入庫,不沖不發。
    When the four pillars combine and the Wealth Officer goes into storage, no clash means not getting rich
    劫刃入宮,豪閣之臣,歸祿倒沖,刃傷見貴。
    Rob Wealth+Yang Ren enter palace, an outstanding minister. Returning Prosperity clash, Yang Ren + Hurting Officer will see help (from others).
    傷官刃煞,男值為權,金神歸祿,女命為忌。
    Hurting Officer+Yang Ren+7 Killings, Male is worth power and authority, Metal returns to prosperity, female’s life should avoid this
    煞重有印,榮而自有,羊刃七煞,出仕馳名。
    7 Killings heavy in chart with Resource, glory will be self-obtained. Yang Ren+7 Killings, enter government service and obtain fame
    身旺無依,偕道之列,桃花滾滾,娼妓之徒。
    Self prosperous with no support, a straight path through (?). Peach blossom are plenty/boiled, the road to prostitution.
    秀氣失令,清明之士,身印俱強,平生少病。
    Self + Resource is strong, will not usually get sick
    天月德助,處絕無殃,衰身得化,位近天庭。
    With the Star of Kindess’ (Tian Yue De) help, one will escape disasters. Self in Deterioration (shuai) stage experiences transformation, will be close to heaven.
    八月官星,大忌卯丁,丁卯剋破,有情無情。
    If August controls the stars, avoid Mao Wood and Ding Fire. Ding and Mao ruins things by making things sentimental and heartless.

    比動羊刃,財格大忌,歲運沖合,必有災疾。
    Yang Ren being disturbed, avoid Wealth chart. Age pillar being clashed and combined, will have disaster or illness.
    七煞有制,逢官為福,羊刃逢沖,災厄必至。
    7 Killings being established/controlled, meets Officer and experiences Wealth. Yang Ren meets clash, difficult disaster will arrive.
    煞化為印,早擢登科,財旺生官,少年承業。
    7 Killings transforms to Resource, light gets lit early (begin working at young age). Wealth as prosperous gives birth to Officers, will take over family business or succeed at young age.
    傷官見印,貴不可言,金伸運水,身衰夭折。
    Hurting Officer sees Resource, cannot say there will be help from others. Metal embodies water, Self in Deterioration (Shuai) stage, will die young.
    印綬見財,運又重見,坐下死絕,必歸黃泉。
    Resource sees Wealth, during luck pillars more is seen, will sit on a bad spot and return to yellow water spring (experience bad things).
    身旺無依,損財傷妻,身旺印旺,破財不娶。
    Self as prosperous but no support, damage wealth and hurt wife. Self and Resource prosperous, will leak wealth and not marry.
    身臨沐歲,恐愁水厄,命遭官剋,須防火災。
    Self in Bath (mu/muk) age, will be afraid of being supressed by water. In life, beware of fire incidents.
    印綬過多,老而無子,傷官過旺,極易傷夫。
    Resource as being overabundant, during old age will not have children. Hurting officer as being over prosperous, extremely easy to hurt the husband.
    官煞財食,無破清高,煞傷梟刃,取用為妙。
    Officer as killed, Wealth as eaten, will not be ruined but noble. 7 Killings and Hurting Officer as not damaging to Yang Ren, best to be able to use them.

    食神疊見,需忌財鄉,煞旺無傷,忌行財地。
    Repeated Eating Gods seen (in chart), should avoid Wealth. 7 Killings as prosperous with no hurting officer, should avoid Wealth land
    祿入妻宮,食妻之祿,印臨子位,受子之榮。
    Prosperity entering into Wife palace, Prosperity eating away at Wife, Resource comes upon children’s position, will experience children’s glory
    煞旺混雜,技藝之流,財祿生馬,經商之客。
    7 Killings as prosperous but mixed up, will have skilled/artistic abilities flowing out. Wealth as prosperous giving birth to horse, will most likely do business/be merchant
    馬落空亡,遁居漂流,祿遭衝破,別土離鄉。
    Horse encounters Star of Void (Kong Wang), will have empty house and drift around from place to place. Prosperity encounters a breakthrough, will leave homeland.
    空亡偏見,親屬離傷,官煞俱去,少失爹娘。
    Star of Void sees Indirect Wealth, family/relatives will leave hurt. Officer Killings to go, will lose parents early on.
    沐浴逢煞,魄往鄂都,元犯再傷,魂歸岳府。
    Bath (Mu/Muk) stage meets 7 Killings, will live on edge of city (?). The origin to offend and get Hurting Officer, will get a government position (?)
    拱祿拱貴,一省揚名,官符死符,獄訟時有。
    To encircle prosperity and aid/nobility/wealth(?), will be known throughout the province (but ?) will have court death role call (capital punishment). Will occur on Yu Song 獄訟 time hour.
    福不福者,吉神遭傷,成不成者,格局見破。
    Wealthy person or not, Lucky God meets Hurting Officer. To succeed in life or not, structure sees ruin.
    生時刑沖,一生屢乏,歲月臨劫,百歲孤寒。
    Birth hour is clashed/punished, a life of being tired all the time. Month pillar has Rob Wealth, a hundred years of penny-pinching (being cheap).

    印逢華蓋,尊居翰苑,學問淵源,水居壬癸。
    Resource encounters a brilliant lid, will reside in a great mansion. The origin of knowledge resides in water Ren and Gui.
    慈祥愷梯,木乘甲乙,燥陽火盛,丙丁之地。
    Wood takes advantage of Jia 甲 and Yi 乙 as stepping ladders. Fire is dry and lies in the land of Bing 丙 and Ding 丁.
    名高祿重,乾金早會,學堂遇貴,惟利師儒。
    Prosperity as heavy (in chart) means name will fly high (well known). Clean Metal will meet early, in the classroom a helper appears, thinking about profits only.
    日祿歸時,清云得路,庚日申時,透財歸祿。
    Day pillar’s prosperity returns/belongs to hour pillar?, skies will be clear and a road will appear. Geng day and Shen hour, will leak wealth (transparent wealth?) and return to prosperity.
    壬騎龍背,見戌無情,寅多則富,辰多則榮。
    Ren Water matches with Dragon’s back. If it sees Xu 戌, will be heartless. Many Yin 寅 and will become wealth. Many Chen 辰 and will get glory.
    天元一氣,地物相同,雖主橫死,位列三公。
    The heavens are one, the earth materials are similar. If the Daymaster is in Death (Si) stage, will still see 3 generations (?).
    天干一字,清而不雜,格雖清貴,兩度婚事。
    Heavenly Stem is one character and may seem simple and unmixed. Structure might also be clean but will encounter 2 marriages.
    日德金神,月逢土旺,雖有功名,祖業飄蕩。
    Day pillar obtains Metal element, Month pillar encounters prosperous Earth, even though one will have achievements, ancestors are in ruins/wanderers.
    金神帶煞,身旺為奇,更行火地,名地當時。
    Metal element contains 7 Killings, Self as prosperous seems strange. If you travel to the land of Fire (use fire), will obtain fame then.

    五行有救,當憂不憂,四時逢空,當喜不喜。
    To worry or not, the five elements can be rescued. The four hours meets Void, to be happy or not.
    甲日金神,偏宜火制,己日金神,何用火制。
    Jia Day with Metal element, use Indirect Wealth Fire. Ji Day with Metal element, can use Fire.
    六甲生春,時犯金神,水鄉不髮,土重名真。
    Six Jias give birth to spring, Hour invades Metal, water will not be wealthy/prosperous. Earth heavy, will be valuable.
    甲己丑月,時帶金靈,月干見煞,雙目失明。
    Jia 甲 Ji 己 Chou 丑 month, time/hour will bring wealth. Month stem sees 7 Killings, both eyes will go blind.
    甲日寅月,透財時節,西北行程,九流立業。
    Jia 甲 Day Yin 寅 Month is a time for leaking wealth. Travel North-West to establish yourself.
    己日卯月,金神剛烈,比肩不旺,橫傷死絕。
    Ji 己 Day Mao 卯 Month, Metal is weak. If Friend (Bi Jian) is not prosperous, will move towards a hurting/dying path.
    天干兩丙,地支全寅,更行生運,死見禍臨。
    2 Bings 丙 in the heavenly stem, earthly branches all Yin 寅, will encounter luck during Growth (Chang Sheng), will see death during Entry stage (Lin)
    火旺兩寅,月令水金,水鄉有救,見土刑身。
    Fire prosperous with 2 Yin 寅, Month commands water and metal. Water can be rescued by seeing Earth and punishing self.
    己日戊月,無氣火神,多水多金,眼目必昏。
    Ji 己 Day Xu 戊 Month, fire has no energy. Lots of water and lots of metal, eyes will be cross-eyed/confused/bad.

    辛金月辰,庚金丑庫,逆數孤貧,順行豪富。
    Xin Metal Month (Chen 辰?), Geng Metal Chou 丑 storehouse, suppress isolation/orphans and poverty, smooth road to wealth
    辛金亥日,月令臨戌,水運初行,需防目疾。
    Xin Metal Hai Day, Month commands Xu 戌, when water luck begins, take care of your eyes
    金多無火,功名磳蹬,木重無金,歲月蹉跎。
    Abundant of Metal but no fire, a rocky road to fame/achievements. Abundant of wood and no metal, waste time away.
    金水極清,擬登甲第,金逢火煉,早步金階。
    Metal and Water elements extremely clear, could be a good grade chart. Metal gets refined by fire, will proceed to the golden hall early on (have good achievements)
    辛金逢火,見土成刑,庚金遇火,格局高強。
    Xin Metal meets Fire, sees Earth as punishment. Geng Metal meets Fire, structure is strong.
    壬癸多金,生干酉申,土旺則貴,火旺則損。
    Ren 壬 and Gui 癸 with plenty of Metal, birth stem as You 酉 Shen 申, Earth prosperous as good, Fire prosperous as harmful.
    癸向巳宮,財官拘印,運至南方,名利必援。
     Gui 癸 goes to Si 巳 palace, Wealth palace controls Resource. Luck comes from the South (head South and assistance will come).
    傷官之格,女命不貴,官星重犯,濫淫之輩。
    Hurting Palace structure, female life as not good. Officer stars as heavy in corruption, a life of prostitution.
    官星桃花,福祿堪夸,煞星桃花,朝秦暮楚。
    Officer star as Peach Blossom, prosperity and luck worthy of praise. 7 Killings Star as Peach Blossom, mornings will be Qin (dynasty) and evenings as Chu (state) (?)

    庚日申時,柱中金局,支元會合,傷官動妻。
    Geng 庚 Day Shen 申 hour, within pillars is a metal structure, branches meet up/combine, Hurting Officer invokes (harms?) wife
    甲日乾提,見煞喜比,金月裁根,忌行卯未。
    Jia 甲 day (master?) as dry, sees 7 Killings as a suitable match. Metal month will chop roots, avoid Mao 卯 and Wei 未.
    壬癸坎宮,野逢午戌,干頭比肩,東行為吉。
    Ren 壬 Gui 癸 in the palace, meets Wu 午 and Xu 戌, Heavenly Stem head as Friend (Bi Jian), best to head East for luck.
    甲己震宮,卯多則舌,逆順運行,子申髮福。
    Jia 甲 Ji 己 shake the palace, lots of Mao 卯 would affect the tongue/speech and suppress the flow of luck. Zi 子 Shen 申 will invoke wealth.
    陽木無根,生於丑月,水多轉貴,金多轉折。
    Yang Wood with no roots, born during Chou 丑 month, plenty of water as valuable while plenty of metal is the turning point.
    六甲坐申,三重見子,運至北方,順防橫死。
    Six Jia 甲 sit on Shen 申, three types of advice. Head North to prevent dying.
    陰水無根,火鄉有貴,陽水無根,火鄉即畏。
    Yin water with no roots, fire as helpful. Yang water with no roots, fire as dreadful.
    戊寅日主,何愁煞旺,露火成名,水來飄蕩。
    Xu 戊 Yin 寅 daymaster, why worry when 7 Killings are prosperous. Fire will bring fame but water will cause one to wander (from place to place).
    甲乙無根,怕逢申酉,煞合逢之,雙木必朽。
    Jia 甲 Yi 乙 with no roots is afraid to meet Shen 申 You 酉. 7 Killings combine, both wood decay/rot.
    陽火無根,水鄉必忌,陰火無根,水鄉有救。
    Yang fire with no roots, must avoid Water. Yin fire with no roots, Water can be rescued.

    春木水多,貧賤之輩,冬天金盛,原弱之人。
    Spring wood contains lots of water, will be poor for this generation. Winter months Metal is strong, person will be weak/fragile.
    木全合局,功名自有,金坐三合,富貴無窮。
    Wood dominates and combines in structure, name/achievements will eventually come. Metal sits on Tri-Union, endless money and glory.
    水歸三合,榮華之客,火臨合局,位高權重。
    Water is in Tri-Union, a guest of glory and nobility. Fire combines in structure, position and power will be high.
    食神生財,勝似財官,濁之則踐,清之則坦。
    Eating god gives birth to wealth, much like wealth palace. A muddy chart means a bad path to tread upon while a clean one will have a wide and smooth road.
    此法玄玄,識得成仙,學者得受,千金莫傳。
    These methods are mysterious and knowing them allows you to become a deity. You must learn them for your own use and never pass on.
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    Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #1 on: August 20, 2014, 03:46:27 AM »
    Hello

    I'm not a bazi expert but I think I can translate one part of the phrase.
    官星桃花,福祿堪夸,煞星桃花,朝秦暮楚。

    朝秦暮楚 - this is a Chinese proverbs which means that you're a person who is quick to switch side. You're fickle-minded.

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  • Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #2 on: August 24, 2014, 02:30:12 PM »
    Thank you for posting this.

    Just pondering, how did you get this? How did you convince the blind bazi master to reveal the secrets?
    By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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  • Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #3 on: August 24, 2014, 05:49:36 PM »
    Thank you for posting this.

    Just pondering, how did you get this? How did you convince the blind bazi master to reveal the secrets?

    This is actually a copy and paste job from an archived copy of the old Fivearts.net forum. So no convincing was required to produce it.

    Also, it is largely within a well known "Blind Man" book/manual. And has been spread across the web numerous times.

    Technically speaking, as I've said before, this information is largely worthless to those who have eyes and able to see and connect how things fall into place in real life, and so can revert it back into Bazi usage without the need of this material. This stuff is really only reserved for those who are actually physically blind and unable to make connections, and so relies on Poems to make those connections for them.

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  • Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #4 on: September 26, 2014, 11:23:29 AM »
    Dear all seniors and friends who might know Chinese,

    First of all, I have to tell you that I don't know Chinese language especially reading and writing.

    However, so eager in understanding Bazi so much that I have tried to figure out meaning in those verses above.

    At this point, I found a terms in Chinese "金神" which is translated as Metal. However, I think I have found somewhere that this set of 2 Chinese characters, likely pronounced Jin Shen - isn't it?, could also represent a specific meaning of a type of DM.

    Please help advise whether it's just Metal in general, or a type of DM?
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  • Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #5 on: November 21, 2014, 12:44:53 PM »

    At this point, I found a terms in Chinese "金神" which is translated as Metal. However, I think I have found somewhere that this set of 2 Chinese characters, likely pronounced Jin Shen - isn't it?, could also represent a specific meaning of a type of DM.
    Yes, I think it refers to a special type.  This is what I found on the net:
    注:金神是特别格,金神格是取时柱为首要之条件,金神必须是生在乙丑、己巳、癸酉时,这三个时柱的日干支一定是甲己.
    Commentary: "Metal God" is a special structure, mainly determined by the Hour Pillars.  This structure requires the Hour Pillar of Yi Chou, Ji Si or Gui You, and these three Hour Pillars can belong only to Jia or Ji DM.

    For example, this is the chart of Angela Merkel qualifies as Jin Shen.

    Gui    Jia    Xin    Jia
    You   Xu   Wei    Wu

    日德金神,月逢土旺,雖有功名,祖業飄蕩。
    Day pillar obtains Metal element, Month pillar encounters prosperous Earth, even though one will have achievements, ancestors are in ruins/wanderers.
    "Metal element" refers to the "Metal God structure". 

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  • Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 12:48:03 PM »
    此法玄玄,識得成仙,學者得受,千金莫傳。
    These methods are mysterious and knowing them allows you to become a deity. You must learn them for your own use and never pass on.
    This line sounds quite impressive!  However, all of the lines of the original poster belong to another Bazi classic 四言独步 Siyan Dubu or "Unrivaled Four Character Poem". Perhaps @trey can confirm this because he wrote a blog article that mentioned Siyan Dubu?  So I don't know why this poem is now labeled as a Blindman's Technique.

    BTW, all members who are interested in the Blindman School (Mang Pai 盲派) may notice that you are in a new board for Mang Pai, which is a board that I requested to Administrator today.

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  • Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #7 on: November 21, 2014, 03:11:02 PM »
    Hi Jlim,

    Thank you very much for your elaboration and help!

    Without fluency in Chinese, learning Bazi is even more difficult.   :(
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  • Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #8 on: November 21, 2014, 09:07:13 PM »
    I have been summoned here.

    The technical part is mainly SYDB, the analysis part isn't.

    I have no idea why SYDB was incorporated into MangPai, I could only guess why. Since SYDB is contained in YHZP, it's safe to say SYDB is a very early text. It is with unknown authorship, was probably written in Song dynasty not long after ZiPing was invented. SYDB, along with it's five words counterpart WYDB and other early texts are considered some of the most authoritative text for ZiPing method. Considering MangPai is a branch of ZiPing, it's not surprising that they also refer to SYDB as the technical fundamentals.

    I have been researching quite a bit into SYDB. The text says a lot of things but explains nothing. It's like the entire essence of ZiPing summarized into a poem. I have read the text numerous times, I am able to recite part of it, but I am still puzzled by many verses contained inside.

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    八月官星,大忌卯丁,丁卯剋破,有情無情。
    If August controls the stars, avoid Mao Wood and Ding Fire. Ding and Mao ruins things by making things sentimental and heartless.

    Literal translation:
    Eight month Officer Star, greatly un-favor Mao and Ding, Ding and Mao counter and break, with affection without affection.

    This verse talks about Jia being born in You. An Officer structure. So Mao EB and Ding HS are both greatly unfavorable because Ding is Hurting Officer and it counters the Officer star, while Mao is a direct clash to You. It is known that DO structure does not favor being clashed. Consequently, what is originally affectionate becomes not affectionate.

    I have always stressed that traditional BaZi emphasizes the concept of 'Affection' 情. A concept that does not exist in the contemporary (CMIIW). If we follow the concept of 'Balance' of contemporary bazi, Jia born in You is considered a Weak DM, as Jia born in the middle of Autumn is 'Dead'. In this case, Mao would be favorable because DM is considered weak. However, Mao is greatly unfavorable for Jia born in the month of You according to the text, reason being Mao clashes the Officer star.

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    此法玄玄,識得成仙,學者得受,千金莫傳。
    These methods are mysterious and knowing them allows you to become a deity. You must learn them for your own use and never pass on.

    I know four classical books that contain SYDB, namely SMTH, YHZP, SFTK and XPHH. I usually refer to the SMTH text, there are some wording differences but the information contained is more or less the same.

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  • Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #9 on: November 22, 2014, 07:11:44 PM »
    This verse talks about Jia being born in You. An Officer structure. So Mao EB and Ding HS are both greatly unfavorable because Ding is Hurting Officer and it counters the Officer star, while Mao is a direct clash to You. It is known that DO structure does not favor being clashed. Consequently, what is originally affectionate becomes not affectionate.
    Thank you, trey.

    About Jia being born in You, Mang Pai has this verbal formula:

    甲木生酉月喜水润,乙生酉月用火攻
    Jia Wood born in You likes Water to moisten it, Yi Wood born in You likes Fire to attack.

    At first this does not seem to make sense, why Jia likes Water, while Yi likes Wood?

    Mang Pai does not categorize charts into types or structures, like the Officer structure that you did.  One sensible explanation, as Master Duan, the Mang Pai guru said, is that Yi Wood - rather than plant - is seen as mature crop that's already been harvested, at this stage water/moisture would make it moldy, so it prefers to be dried in the sun.

    Amy Winehouse (1983-2011)

                                            LP
    Ding    Yi     Xin      Gui      Jia
    Hai     Si      You     Hai      Zi

    This Yi DM meets a lot of Water in her chart (Gui, Hai, Hai) and she died in Zi LP.  And interestingly, she also died due to alcohol intoxication, just like "a crop going bald due to molds".



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  • Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #10 on: November 22, 2014, 10:42:37 PM »
    Hi Jlim,

    I actually don't know much about MangPai other than some basic concepts like 宾主, 体用, 工神废神 etc. They seem to emphasize on having the 'jobs' done. 做工. My little knowledge of MangPai comes from a few youtube videos I watched. Their concepts are very strange to me.

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    神煞相伴,輕重較量,先觀月令,論格推詳。
    Shen Sha (Gods and Killings) are similar, their importance disputed. First look at the month pillar before looking at the chart type for details.
    以月為主,專論財官,區分貴賤,妙法多端。
    Using the month pillar as the focal point, deduce the wealth (and post? As in career position). Rank the grade, methods are plenty.
    獨則易取,亂則難明,去留舒配,論格要精。
    A single element is easy to understand but a disarray of many makes it difficult. Coming and going make a pair, discussing about structures require insight.

    If MangPai doesn't categorize charts into types and structures, then SYDB would be irrelevant to them.

    I have one question - Is there more than 1 MangPai school?

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    甲木生酉月喜水润,乙生酉月用火攻

    This line is completely in agreement with traditional ZiPing. Jia born in You is Officer structure. Gui water is preferred over Ren water to protrude along Xin metal. It's called 正官佩印 or 官印双全.

    While Yi born in You is 7K structure, so Ding is preferred over Bing. If the outputs are absent, we would use water instead. In this case Ren woud be preferred over Gui. That would either be 食神制杀, 伤官驾杀 or 杀印相生.


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                                            LP
    Ding    Yi     Xin      Gui      Jia
    Hai     Si      You     Hai      Zi

    This chart, in traditional view is a 7K structure. We see this as 杀用食制 as Ding is protruding. At the same time Gui is also protruding. Gui could counter away Ding and save Xin metal but due to the distance between Gui and Ding, the chart could still function well. Nonetheless, we would classify this as a broken structure.

    When LP arrived at JiaZi,  Useful Ding was going through 绝. The annoying Gui became overly powerful, it countered away Ding and allowed Xin to counter Yi and the chart collapsed.


    http://treybazi.blogspot.com/2013/09/bazi-zpzq-discussing-indirect-officer.html

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  • Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #11 on: November 23, 2014, 02:03:48 AM »
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    I have one question - Is there more than 1 MangPai school?

    Yes there is more than 1 MangPai School.

    The misnomer of MangPai has caused various misunderstandings of what MangPai is.

    1. There is the School of the Blind (Blind School).
    2. There is the MangPai School of Bazi (that is really what everyone is talking about).
    3. The "Street" "Group" of Bazi (not really a School).

    MangPai is from the videos that you have seen, some reading material others have seen, are most likely that which was of recent years the School that was "developed" by a Mister Duen. This Mister Duen hung out a lot with actual Blind School (actually blind people) who's skills included that of Bazi that is used in the Blind School. Mister Duen was able to effectively "reverse engineer" this portion of skills by hanging around them long enough and understanding enough Bazi on his own anyway. This school of Bazi from Mister Duen is named "MangPai" Bazi.

    This should not be confused with "MangPai" which is an identical name that was given to the Fortune Tellers of the streets that used poems that they memorised for their trade. The poems included many parts from many schools of thoughts, and the fact that they mostly don't need to follow any particular school of Bazi system to provide readings. They just pull out whatever is associated with the Poems that they have learned. So they are just reciting stuff most of the time, so people misunderstood that it was similar to actual Blind School users, who perform a similar feat but quickly move into actual reading which does have a system.

    The material listed in the OP is actually of the last group, the Fortune Tellers of the Streets. Used for quick and dirty readings or for those with less skill.

    If you were to show the relation of Bazi from these groupings, I would say it's roughly similar to the following:

    ZPBZ --> Blind School --> MangPai Bazi School
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             ----------------------
                         |
                         --> Fortune Tellers of the streets, nicknamed MangPai
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    Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #12 on: November 23, 2014, 01:23:31 PM »
    What does it mean when you say street fortune teller?  I think of the ones sit with one table and chair at the night markets in Asia? Do they still have them around?

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  • Re: 盲人斷命秘訣 – The Blindman Technique of Life Reading
    « Reply #13 on: November 23, 2014, 06:12:05 PM »
    @DeNovo Yes, street fortune tellers are still thriving in places like Hong Kong, they are a staple of Hong Kong society.  There's a recent article this year in Huffington Post about them, with pictures of stalls and stalls, which you can see in Oddly Mesmerizing Photos Of Hong Kong's Fortune Tellers


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    « Reply #14 on: November 23, 2014, 10:29:02 PM »

    The misnomer of MangPai has caused various misunderstandings of what MangPai is.

    1. There is the School of the Blind (Blind School).
    2. There is the MangPai School of Bazi (that is really what everyone is talking about).
    3. The "Street" "Group" of Bazi (not really a School).

    Hi Puppylove, I get the impression that these schools, especially #1 and 2, have had only a very short history.  Compare this with Ziping style of bazi, and the many classics after it, dating back to ancient dynasties of China.

    I understand that the Blind School is certainly not as public as #2 and #3.  Approximately when was the Blind School (#1) established?  Is there any presence of this bazi school in Taiwan? Are its practitioners/teachers only available in South China & Hong Kong, how about other parts of China? 

    As for Mang Pai, the story started in 1997 as Duan Jianye (from Shanxi province) got to know Hao Jinyang 郝金阳, a blind master, and studied the Blind style with him.  Duan had been a Ziping bazi specialist since 1990, in fact he also wrote Ziping style books. Besides from Master Hao, Duan also extracted a lot of knowledge from another blind master Xia Zhongqi 夏仲奇.  From these two teachers, he managed to develop the Mang Pai School of Bazi in 2000.  In 2004 the system of Mang Pai was formally completed, and since that year Master Duan has been proliferating the teachings of Mang Pai, and dropped the conventional Ziping style.  All of these names mentioned are from Northern China.

    Master Duan is not from the Blind School (#1 above), but I wonder if both Master Hao and Xia come from the Blind School?

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    by anton8888
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    Views: 550
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    by FlyingKite
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    Views: 166
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    by YY
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    Views: 377
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    by Renfxie
    Adjust time of birth for reading?

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    Replies: 2
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    Last post March 05, 2019, 06:43:18 PM
    by fan
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    Last post February 24, 2019, 03:12:42 AM
    by donaldpyw
    Friend ask for help, reading his chart. Lost direction in life

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    Replies: 8
    Views: 194
    Last post February 22, 2019, 05:07:14 PM
    by windwheel
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    Replies: 64
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    Last post March 06, 2019, 08:24:24 PM
    by HOra0Exp
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    Replies: 3
    Views: 182
    Last post February 21, 2019, 10:56:40 AM
    by windwheel
    Need advice on ZWDS reading. Marriage & children

    Started by peachyBoard Request for birth chart reading [FREE]

    Replies: 15
    Views: 421
    Last post February 21, 2019, 04:03:39 PM
    by peachy
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    Started by LimXiexinBoard Request for birth chart reading [FREE]

    Replies: 66
    Views: 1124
    Last post February 21, 2019, 11:41:22 AM
    by yuraha
    Feeling lost and humbly requesting a reading

    Started by rontron5kBoard Request for birth chart reading [FREE]

    Replies: 7
    Views: 227
    Last post February 17, 2019, 12:48:00 PM
    by rontron5k
    Zwds or bazi reading for spouse palace

    Started by Jessica3005Board Request for birth chart reading [FREE]

    Replies: 8
    Views: 403
    Last post April 07, 2019, 02:35:29 PM
    by flawlesflower
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    Started by dixonBoard Request for birth chart reading [FREE]

    Replies: 1
    Views: 111
    Last post February 15, 2019, 12:45:41 PM
    by KarlCarr
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    Started by benkaiserBoard Request for birth chart reading [FREE]

    Replies: 4
    Views: 191
    Last post February 26, 2019, 06:46:07 AM
    by benkaiser
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    Started by niloxBoard 3. Art of Life (Birthchart Analysis)

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    Last post February 06, 2019, 06:51:27 AM
    by bokeksiansu
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    Started by jasperslytherinBoard Request for birth chart reading [FREE]

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    Views: 104
    Last post February 01, 2019, 07:56:46 AM
    by jasperslytherin
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    Replies: 7
    Views: 318
    Last post February 04, 2019, 09:59:01 AM
    by marinabay
    FACE READING HELP!

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    Replies: 9
    Views: 538
    Last post February 14, 2019, 06:24:11 PM
    by tea
    More bad luck in life. What should i do in 2019?

    Started by sistem3186Board Request for birth chart reading [FREE]

    Replies: 3
    Views: 199
    Last post January 20, 2019, 07:46:53 PM
    by TObaSANtex
    Divorced, have kids from 2 different guys, whats ahead for this lady life?

    Started by Lord CendraBoard Request for birth chart reading [FREE]

    Replies: 26
    Views: 827
    Last post January 25, 2019, 06:53:23 PM
    by Gmuli
    2019 reading + future of my blog/career

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    by abc123jj

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