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« Reply #105 on: October 07, 2019, 09:50:26 AM »
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  • Re: The Fate of Hong Kong (ZWDS analysis)
    « Reply #107 on: October 07, 2019, 11:25:05 PM »
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protest-markets/about-4-billion-hong-kong-deposits-may-have-left-for-singapore-as-protests-rage-goldman-idUSKBN1WI0CR
    Wait for the result of money outflow for October after the emergency law was declared to pass the masked law. How much damage can the Hong Kong banking system endures if people continue to make a run for the bank.

    It's highly advisable to convert all HK dollar into US dollar. Move it out of Hong Kong to protect your money.

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    « Reply #108 on: October 08, 2019, 11:14:19 AM »
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    « Reply #109 on: October 08, 2019, 12:07:53 PM »


    Just a glance only.... (*Note: Currently theories for ZWDS analysis of country is not fully developed and widespread, I can only “grope in the dark” with some hints based on basic meanings of the stars.)

    I think the trouble starts in decade 2008~2017 with Big Door attached with Destruction catalyst + Spinning Top (Ju Men Hua Ji + Tuo Luo). Big Door + Destruction catalyst is synonymous with arguments, conflicts, chaos. That decade we first saw the “Umbrella Movement”. With Spinning Top residing, it brings violence and anger.

    In current decade 2018~2027, Voracious Wolf resides with Painting (Tan Lang Wen Qu). Painting greatly reduces the  good fortune and prosperity of Voracious Wolf and causes frustrations and impatience with more anger as Vora Wolf’s capability cannot be put to good use. Over in opposite palace, Warrior (Wu Qu) is synonymous with aggressiveness, violence and war. With Bell star (Ling), there is lack of discipline and control.

    I’m afraid some positive developments will only come in decade 2028~2037 with Moon attached with Wealth catalyst. But with Fire residing, it brings explosive tempers and legal issues.
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  • Re: The Fate of Hong Kong (ZWDS analysis)
    « Reply #110 on: October 08, 2019, 08:48:10 PM »

    One of the oldest, dirtiest and cruel strategy in any conflict is to pit family against family(Pro China vs Anti China, religion against religion(Shia muslims against Sunni Muslims in Iraq) , ethnic group against ethnic group(Christians against Muslims, Muslims against Hinduism, Buddhism against Muslims and so on....). Let's shift the focus back to to Hong Kong. They fired the CEO of Cathay Pacific because one of their pilot participated in a demonstration. An employee reported a colleague making a comment on Facebook about the protest and got her fired. The anti China protesters have launched a campaign asking people to boycott business supporting China. The horrible stories are endless.

    All sides employ this tactic to divide and inflict harms on the other.   

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    « Reply #111 on: October 23, 2019, 09:48:17 PM »
    Extradition bill officially withdrawn!


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    Re: The Fate of Hong Kong (ZWDS analysis)
    « Reply #113 on: October 24, 2019, 03:26:18 PM »

    Just a glance only.... (*Note: Currently theories for ZWDS analysis of country is not fully developed and widespread, I can only “grope in the dark” with some hints based on basic meanings of the stars.)

    I think the trouble starts in decade 2008~2017 with Big Door attached with Destruction catalyst + Spinning Top (Ju Men Hua Ji + Tuo Luo). Big Door + Destruction catalyst is synonymous with arguments, conflicts, chaos. That decade we first saw the “Umbrella Movement”. With Spinning Top residing, it brings violence and anger.

    In current decade 2018~2027, Voracious Wolf resides with Painting (Tan Lang Wen Qu). Painting greatly reduces the  good fortune and prosperity of Voracious Wolf and causes frustrations and impatience with more anger as Vora Wolf’s capability cannot be put to good use. Over in opposite palace, Warrior (Wu Qu) is synonymous with aggressiveness, violence and war. With Bell star (Ling), there is lack of discipline and control.

    I’m afraid some positive developments will only come in decade 2028~2037 with Moon attached with Wealth catalyst. But with Fire residing, it brings explosive tempers and legal issues.



    If we apply the same theory with grope in the dark attitude, I think 2038-2047 they find something and grow.
    Of course, two to three years before 2038, they already found "something".
    And judge from what they find out, I think they find something related to "metal" business.
    And I think it is the new revolution about finance and banking, and HK benefit from that.
    Or probably centralized banking and currency.

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    « Reply #114 on: October 30, 2019, 11:59:53 PM »
    Now even reporters are protesting! :o

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    « Reply #116 on: November 11, 2019, 10:20:36 PM »
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    « Reply #117 on: November 11, 2019, 10:55:13 PM »

    This is only the beginning. The worse has yet to come. I would say much much worse. To solve this political impasse, a political response is needed. China either responds to the demand of the protesters or violently crush them with brutal force like in Tianamen Square protest. Dragging on with this cat and mouse game will only disintegrate HK further.

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    This is only the beginning. The worse has yet to come. I would say much much worse. To solve this political impasse, a political response is needed. China either responds to the demand of the protesters or violently crush them with brutal force like in Tianamen Square protest. Dragging on with this cat and mouse game will only disintegrate HK further.

    Thing is, there is no way out. The five demands can't and will never be met because there is basically no leadership from the protests and no one to negotiate with. In particular, the protestors have great difficulty pocketing their winnings and going home to continue the fight another day (an important maneuver for winning long-term political struggles). The Chinese and HK governments also know the nature of their adversary, so they can't grant any concessions even if they were so inclined. Therefore, the most likely outcome is for the protests to fizzle out without any political wins, after doing a bunch of economic damage. As far as Beijing is concerned, if Hong Kong ruins itself, that would be a pity but not an existential threat. Now in mainland media, Hong Kong is depicted as a failed chaotic dysfunctional western style society, and a tool to foster nationalism.
    Agree, there is no way out. The words "compromise & reason" are meaningless in dealing with an authoritarian regime. I somehow doubt the Chinese leadership really wants to end the HK's turmoil. I see more violence and bloodshed on the way. It's a slow and painful death for HK protesters and civilians who are not on the    Chinese side.

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