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Re: Everything under the sun according to elements (Bazi)
« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2018, 08:08:32 PM »
comunication should be meta-lungs,air,just like Mercury,the Messenger in western astrology.Water is too emotional to comunicate clearly

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  • Re: Everything under the sun according to elements (Bazi)
    « Reply #46 on: March 13, 2018, 08:11:12 PM »
    @socrates : This is Bazi, not Western Astrology.


    edit: Don't mix different methods! (See: Why Master Duan proclaims: Don't mix Mangpai with traditional Bazi method)
    « Last Edit: March 13, 2018, 09:25:35 PM by ArtofFugue »
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  • Re: Everything under the sun according to elements (Bazi)
    « Reply #47 on: October 16, 2019, 09:22:18 PM »
    Notice alot of people are wearing jade.

    Note that jade has different elements too:
    green jade = wood element
    white/colourless jade = metal element
    red/lavender jade = fire element
    yellow jade = earth element
    dark green/blue-green/black jade = water element.
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  • Re: Everything under the sun according to elements (Bazi)
    « Reply #48 on: November 04, 2019, 03:02:50 PM »
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    Re: Everything under the sun according to elements (Bazi)
    « Reply #49 on: November 11, 2019, 10:06:05 PM »
    Master Yuan Shushan had used real-life physical Water element to remedy an unfavourable Metal decade during his age 50s.

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    Yuan was among a number of diviners who made predictions about their own fate.

    In his "Ming Li Tan Yuan" text, he wrote that he was born of Wood, but surrounded in four directions by Metal from the year, month, day and hour of birth. Wood would require Water to make it grow and strengthen it while dissipating Metal at the same time, or more Wood to support it. Alternatively or concurrently, Fire could be there to suppress the Metal.

    His prediction was that in the year 1931, upon reaching age of 50, the Metal year would become a menace to his life and end his career. Before the time came, he wound up his lucrative practice and withdrew from public life to a tiny island at Zhenjiang in Jiangsu province.

    The fated day passed without incident. Yuan then re-emerged and started his business once again. Nobody criticized him for not dying on the appointed day; instead he became more famous than before for being able to avert calamity by surrounding himself with Water on an island to guard against the force of Metal.
    His Bazi chart as below:





     - - -  1 - - - - - - 11 - - - - - 21 - - - - - - 31 - - - - - 41 - - - - - - 51 - - - - - - 61 - - - - - 71




    Source: Chinese Mathematical Astrology, pg 138


    So he isnt a follow structure because he has tigeer in hour p

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  • Re: Everything under the sun according to elements (Bazi)
    « Reply #50 on: November 12, 2019, 03:11:33 PM »
    Try to analyze with reason

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    Re: Everything under the sun according to elements (Bazi)
    « Reply #51 on: November 16, 2019, 08:21:43 AM »
    Master Yuan Shushan had used real-life physical Water element to remedy an unfavourable Metal decade during his age 50s.

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    Yuan was among a number of diviners who made predictions about their own fate.

    In his "Ming Li Tan Yuan" text, he wrote that he was born of Wood, but surrounded in four directions by Metal from the year, month, day and hour of birth. Wood would require Water to make it grow and strengthen it while dissipating Metal at the same time, or more Wood to support it. Alternatively or concurrently, Fire could be there to suppress the Metal.

    His prediction was that in the year 1931, upon reaching age of 50, the Metal year would become a menace to his life and end his career. Before the time came, he wound up his lucrative practice and withdrew from public life to a tiny island at Zhenjiang in Jiangsu province.

    The fated day passed without incident. Yuan then re-emerged and started his business once again. Nobody criticized him for not dying on the appointed day; instead he became more famous than before for being able to avert calamity by surrounding himself with Water on an island to guard against the force of Metal.
    His Bazi chart as below:





     - - -  1 - - - - - - 11 - - - - - 21 - - - - - - 31 - - - - - 41 - - - - - - 51 - - - - - - 61 - - - - - 71




    Source: Chinese Mathematical Astrology, pg 138


    So he isnt a folloew structure because he has tigeer in hour p

    His zi wei doesnt seem to confirm that assuming i got the richt date 8 sept 1881 yin hour
    « Last Edit: November 16, 2019, 08:23:26 AM by socrates »

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  • Re: Everything under the sun according to elements (Bazi)
    « Reply #52 on: January 26, 2020, 08:20:16 AM »
    This is useful, many thanks!

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    Re: Everything under the sun according to elements (Bazi)
    « Reply #53 on: January 31, 2020, 11:59:15 PM »
    Master Yuan Shushan had used real-life physical Water element to remedy an unfavourable Metal decade during his age 50s.

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    Yuan was among a number of diviners who made predictions about their own fate.

    In his "Ming Li Tan Yuan" text, he wrote that he was born of Wood, but surrounded in four directions by Metal from the year, month, day and hour of birth. Wood would require Water to make it grow and strengthen it while dissipating Metal at the same time, or more Wood to support it. Alternatively or concurrently, Fire could be there to suppress the Metal.

    His prediction was that in the year 1931, upon reaching age of 50, the Metal year would become a menace to his life and end his career. Before the time came, he wound up his lucrative practice and withdrew from public life to a tiny island at Zhenjiang in Jiangsu province.

    The fated day passed without incident. Yuan then re-emerged and started his business once again. Nobody criticized him for not dying on the appointed day; instead he became more famous than before for being able to avert calamity by surrounding himself with Water on an island to guard against the force of Metal.
    His Bazi chart as below:





     - - -  1 - - - - - - 11 - - - - - 21 - - - - - - 31 - - - - - 41 - - - - - - 51 - - - - - - 61 - - - - - 71




    Source: Chinese Mathematical Astrology, pg 138


    So he isnt a folloew structure because he has tigeer in hour p

    His zi wei doesnt seem to confirm that assuming i got the richt date 8 sept 1881 yin hour

    Around sept 1931 he started a ren cycle.Could this be the reason he moved to the Island? Ren protects him anyway he probably moved because before september he was under attack from mtal and was at the end of a cycle,always an important year

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    Re: Everything under the sun according to elements (Bazi)
    « Reply #54 on: February 01, 2020, 12:00:40 AM »
    Actually it began in1932 so in 1931 there was a Si you combo making more metal

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    Re: Everything under the sun according to elements (Bazi)
    « Reply #55 on: February 04, 2020, 10:26:46 PM »
    Master Yuan Shushan had used real-life physical Water element to remedy an unfavourable Metal decade during his age 50s.

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    Yuan was among a number of diviners who made predictions about their own fate.

    In his "Ming Li Tan Yuan" text, he wrote that he was born of Wood, but surrounded in four directions by Metal from the year, month, day and hour of birth. Wood would require Water to make it grow and strengthen it while dissipating Metal at the same time, or more Wood to support it. Alternatively or concurrently, Fire could be there to suppress the Metal.

    His prediction was that in the year 1931, upon reaching age of 50, the Metal year would become a menace to his life and end his career. Before the time came, he wound up his lucrative practice and withdrew from public life to a tiny island at Zhenjiang in Jiangsu province.

    The fated day passed without incident. Yuan then re-emerged and started his business once again. Nobody criticized him for not dying on the appointed day; instead he became more famous than before for being able to avert calamity by surrounding himself with Water on an island to guard against the force of Metal.
    His Bazi chart as below:





     - - -  1 - - - - - - 11 - - - - - 21 - - - - - - 31 - - - - - 41 - - - - - - 51 - - - - - - 61 - - - - - 71




    Source: Chinese Mathematical Astrology, pg 138


    So he isnt a folloew structure because he has tigeer in hour p

    His zi wei doesnt seem to confirm that assuming i got the richt date 8 sept 1881 yin hour
    can you see in zi wei why 1931 was dangerous for this master?

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    « Reply #56 on: February 27, 2020, 08:15:30 AM »
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  • Re: Everything under the sun according to elements (Bazi)
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    Thanks, it is very interesting!  :)

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