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  • Re: Study case of shocking reality
    « Reply #15 on: October 12, 2016, 12:13:32 AM »
    When you said "feeble" do you mean "poor and lowly"?  And where in the quoted text does it say this chart is "poor and lowly"?
    No.
    Regard as weak, but moreover is very weak (feeble).
      uhhh  very weak as in follow chart? Hmmm i thought mangpai dont use strength.   :-X 

    In Classic, this one is definitely is not a follow. Becos no UG in natal, i graded it below avg. Must still check LP for "jackpot" if any !  :D

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    « Reply #16 on: October 12, 2016, 12:29:04 AM »
    Sometimes Mangpai uses some DM strength, but not in the way that text shows, and we don't use a lot.

    I pretty much know where text comes from.  It comes from a book by Duan Jianye, and he was recording some notes from Hao Jinyang, Mr. Duan's blind master.  Mr. Duan studied traditional Bazi (and even wrote a couple of books) before embracing Mangpai Bazi (he had never looked back since).  That text was written during the early years of Mr. Duan writing about Mangpai, and I suppose he must have had some traditional Bazi concepts mixed in. 

    I suggest you take what Mr. Duan writes with a large grain of salt, even the books/material he wrote in the years after.

    According to me, this chart is high grade, but not super high.

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    Re: Study case of shocking reality
    « Reply #17 on: October 12, 2016, 12:30:31 AM »
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    « Reply #18 on: October 12, 2016, 12:53:31 AM »
    Sometimes Mangpai uses some DM strength, but not in the way that text shows, and we don't use a lot.

    I pretty much know where text comes from.  It comes from a book by Duan Jianye, and he was recording some notes from Hao Jinyang, Mr. Duan's blind master.  Mr. Duan studied traditional Bazi (and even wrote a couple of books) before embracing Mangpai Bazi (he had never looked back since).  That text was written during the early years of Mr. Duan writing about Mangpai, and I suppose he must have had some traditional Bazi concepts mixed in. 

    I suggest you take what Mr. Duan writes with a large grain of salt, even the books/material he wrote in the years after.

    According to me, this chart is high grade, but not super high.
    Hi @Jlim,

    Thanks for advise. So yours is not Mr Duan Mangpai... any chance, a school his star student set up... Can't remember his name now.. Anyway, i've switched to that school now , and maybe stay abit to see if i can manage his new theories... if i can find time... hehehhh...

    Say, is it true, Mangpai only use strength when dealing with Wealth? How about power?



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  • Re: Study case of shocking reality
    « Reply #19 on: October 12, 2016, 01:07:47 AM »
    I pretty much know where text comes from.  It comes from a book by Duan Jianye, and he was recording some notes from Hao Jinyang, Mr. Duan's blind master.  Mr. Duan studied traditional Bazi (and even wrote a couple of books) before embracing Mangpai Bazi (he had never looked back since).  That text was written during the early years of Mr. Duan writing about Mangpai, and I suppose he must have had some traditional Bazi concepts mixed in. 

    I suggest you take what Mr. Duan writes with a large grain of salt, even the books/material he wrote in the years after.

    According to me, this chart is high grade, but not super high.
    Thank you Master Jlim for the clarification.
    Yes, it is from Duan Jianye book. It is mentioned by puppylove.

    Talking about this chart case, that is why I'm confused, need clarification because the explanation is very little, only said all wet & parched Earth obscure Fire.
    By logic, Mr.Duan took this chart in his book surely is not based on theory only, but took a real life person chart that he encountered before.
    But why the person cannot arise? I see Tombs open. What is the factor that makes this Life is very weak? This case is a mystery to me. That is why I post this case. I already try to solve this, only above explanation I can deduce.
    That is why I ask if possible also from ZWDS view to pinpoint this Life too. Is his Life is really very weak? Regardless Tombs that open?
    « Last Edit: October 12, 2016, 01:17:36 AM by Han »
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    « Reply #20 on: October 12, 2016, 01:18:10 AM »
    Uhh @Han, i thought you are @Jlim's student? No?  ::) But why your school and his school different lol?! :o

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    « Reply #21 on: October 12, 2016, 01:54:17 AM »
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    « Reply #22 on: October 12, 2016, 02:19:06 AM »
    Uhh @Han, i thought you are @Jlim's student? No?  ::) But why your school and his school different lol?! :o
    ^_^ It is not different. Jlim is Master level and I'm stil "half baked". LOL I encountered BaZi only 2,5 years ago while Master Jlim already only God knows how many years already pass by for study..

    I originally want to join Jlim course, it is a lifetime opportunity. As far as I know, no MangPai in English exist yet, only Master Jlim course.
    But by chance I found +/- 500 pages MangPai text (it tickle me to see it first hehe). But LOL it is very hard to understand! All author of that text are an amateur editor! The words is not clear and can mean a lot of things. Very not recommended to self study. I used to check it again 2 or 3 times, it always have some wrong translation that I must edited it again.

    A lot of members PM me, asking about Jlim course, I always highly recommended to just take it.
    I can see value, and I'm telling you it is a gold value.

    Do not take my path. My way of doing things is non-conventional. Even since a child when I want to can swim, I only observe other and just jumped to the water, just so can understand the real water. The story of how I start to drive a car is also the same, only by observation, nobody teach me. Sometimes I wonder why I'm still alive and why my car doesn't even have a scratch until now. When I encountered MangPai BaZi, I said: oh I see.. So I'm using HO way all this time. No wonder my Teacher love me but also hate me.

    ^_^   

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  • Re: Study case of shocking reality
    « Reply #23 on: October 12, 2016, 12:01:06 PM »
    Hmmm......  :-[

    I don't even know whether any Tomb/Storage, or all is opened, or not ..... Don't mention to further analysis ....  :-[

    Just me murmuring out loud......
    Do not overestimate power of destiny ....

    It cannot govern the way you choose to feel contented with what you are destined for....

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  • Re: Study case of shocking reality
    « Reply #24 on: October 12, 2016, 01:29:08 PM »
    @baziindublin
     :-* If you want me to sit beside you in class, revise homework with you,  carry your bag for you after class, walk you back home safely, you gotta sponsor this poor kid lol...    If you can remit payment to @Jlim's account by today, maybe we really can be class mate by tomorrow?!  8) Deal?

    Anyway, no worries about me not test driving your skills lol. Please study hard!!!

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    « Reply #25 on: October 12, 2016, 01:52:46 PM »
    Uhh @Han, i thought you are @Jlim's student? No?  ::) But why your school and his school different lol?! :o
    ^_^ It is not different. Jlim is Master level and I'm stil "half baked". LOL I encountered BaZi only 2,5 years ago while Master Jlim already only God knows how many years already pass by for study..

    I originally want to join Jlim course, it is a lifetime opportunity. As far as I know, no MangPai in English exist yet, only Master Jlim course.
    But by chance I found +/- 500 pages MangPai text (it tickle me to see it first hehe). But LOL it is very hard to understand! All author of that text are an amateur editor! The words is not clear and can mean a lot of things. Very not recommended to self study. I used to check it again 2 or 3 times, it always have some wrong translation that I must edited it again.

    A lot of members PM me, asking about Jlim course, I always highly recommended to just take it.
    I can see value, and I'm telling you it is a gold value.

    Do not take my path. My way of doing things is non-conventional. Even since a child when I want to can swim, I only observe other and just jumped to the water, just so can understand the real water. The story of how I start to drive a car is also the same, only by observation, nobody teach me. Sometimes I wonder why I'm still alive and why my car doesn't even have a scratch until now. When I encountered MangPai BaZi, I said: oh I see.. So I'm using HO way all this time. No wonder my Teacher love me but also hate me.

    ^_^
    @Han, don't say half baked. You are one of the star readers here!  ;) I enjoyed your reading very much. Keep going! In fact, I predict you can go very far in this art! Jia You!

    Btw, if you can read Chinese, you should be able to understand Mandarin, no? If you can, go watch their videos too. Sometimes, they explain what's not in text.

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  • Re: Study case of shocking reality
    « Reply #26 on: October 12, 2016, 02:31:08 PM »
    I'm thinking again.. There is Chendera chart that also have similar situation of Lu star meeting 3 Output in EB. Although Chendera chart don't see Tombs case like this one. Chendera currently is suffering an illness.

    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=13912.msg149321#msg149321



    I think what the text meaning about "DM is regard as weak but moreover is very weak" - is only about his body that have illness. Not about his Life achievement.

    There are Tombs open, Life should not be too bad.
    But maybe by logic it took 1 point to see: If DM is performing work with body, when the body have illness, the work result will also be limited. The grade of the chart become dropping.
    « Last Edit: October 12, 2016, 02:34:48 PM by Han »
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