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  • Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « on: December 01, 2016, 12:35:27 PM »
    This question might sound a little off the topic.  What is the differences between BAZI versus ZWDS? ??? 
    Can't seem to find any links that is related to this topic?  Then again, I haven't use this website for a very long time.  Please advise, thanks.
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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #1 on: December 01, 2016, 12:42:01 PM »
    ....... What is the differences between BAZI versus ZWDS? ??? 
    Can't seem to find any links that is related to this topic? 
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    No need to compare, Bazi is actually derived from ZWDS! A chip off the original block of wood is not too different from it!

    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14098.msg152533#msg152533
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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #2 on: December 01, 2016, 01:45:44 PM »
    Thanks for sharing.  I always thought it was the reverse.
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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #3 on: March 23, 2017, 10:31:25 PM »
    There is no governing body so much is debatable one thing is for sure is that it is superstitious truth
    “Study the past if you would define the future.” ― Confucius
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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #4 on: March 24, 2017, 12:08:47 AM »
    There is no governing body so much is debatable one thing is for sure is that it is superstitious truth

    Would you be so kind to further elaborate your thinking please.
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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #5 on: March 24, 2017, 12:20:34 AM »
    Both systems are an accumulation of interpretations from a variety of authors each with their own interests to validate their own credibility given no absolute way to determine which source document is secondary to which
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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #6 on: March 24, 2017, 08:25:58 AM »
    Both systems are an accumulation of interpretations from a variety of authors each with their own interests to validate their own credibility given no absolute way to determine which source document is secondary to which

    In other words...? http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=1222.msg32450;topicseen#msg32450
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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #7 on: March 24, 2017, 10:49:05 AM »
    There is no governing body so much is debatable one thing is for sure is that it is superstitious truth

    Ah Gui,

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    Both systems are an accumulation of interpretations from a variety of authors each with their own interests to validate their own credibility given no absolute way to determine which source document is secondary....

    This is a metaphysics forum and those chaps will not take kindly unless you speak kindly of their system or lineage!

    Some of them devote their good time to CM as interest, research while others turned that into their livelihood or in process of augmenting their income from CM. 

    More diplomatic wordings will be good unless you like spirited replies.

    It is like a zero sum game, Bazi group wins, Zi Wei clique not happy.  Zi Wei clique gets the glory, Bazi group also want a say.

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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #8 on: March 25, 2017, 02:00:37 AM »
    On the contrary, I find Gui thoughts carefully crafted.  I agree Bazi is like a game, all you to know is learn or find out the rules (both objective and subjective). 

    However, I don't think bazi is a zero sum game because the individual can win if they carefully learn the art (rules) or follow the advice of some know or unknown master.
    If everything in life is measurable, then understanding destiny would be as simple as counting 1, 2, and 3.

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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #9 on: March 25, 2017, 07:21:00 AM »

    This is a metaphysics forum and those chaps will not take kindly unless you speak kindly of their system or lineage!

    Some of them devote their good time to CM as interest, research while others turned that into their livelihood or in process of augmenting their income from CM. 

    More diplomatic wordings will be good unless you like spirited replies.

    It is like a zero sum game, Bazi group wins, Zi Wei clique not happy.  Zi Wei clique gets the glory, Bazi group also want a say.

    1. Illogical logic. Your logic cannot "gel" too, you didn't speak kindly of other members' analysis, now you expect people to be kind and respectful? Gui is speaking the truth, just accept it.

    2. Alot of those commercial masters are always self-proclaiming and self-advertising but their service is halfbaked.

    3. More diplomatic wordings? Don't hit back and retort like this. If your logic cannot gel and is highlighted, of course you will not be happy. First instinct is to hit back like this. Funny, I thought you follow your own logic, you must never expect get hot and hit back.  Means you got a long long way to go for cultivation.

    No offense because I only point out your logic problem which is self-contradictory expectations in this case.
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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #10 on: March 25, 2017, 07:33:18 AM »
    The bluntest truth is revealed...

    Among the 3 arts (Tie Ban, Zi Wei and Liu Ren), Zi Wei is the top method.

    « Last Edit: February 07, 2018, 12:19:31 PM by ArtofFugue »
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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #11 on: March 25, 2017, 03:04:28 PM »
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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #12 on: March 25, 2017, 04:40:37 PM »
    Sorry if my words are "too sudden" for some people to accept, but it's the blunt truth. :-X
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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #13 on: March 25, 2017, 11:53:43 PM »
    On the contrary, I find Gui thoughts carefully crafted.  I agree Bazi is like a game, all you to know is learn or find out the rules (both objective and subjective). 

    However, I don't think bazi is a zero sum game because the individual can win if they carefully learn the art (rules) or follow the advice of some know or unknown master.

    tyc

    because the individual can win if they carefully learn the art (rules)

    if i may add, carefully learn the advice of the master but don't follow bluntly (i believe there is no one fool enough to follow bluntly these advice).
    the service here same like we hire some consultant, take theirs as big picture and idea.

    all you to know is learn or find out the rules --> i agree with this, that's why we learn our bazi at first.
    just a newbie cents only :)
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  • Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
    « Reply #14 on: March 26, 2017, 04:45:12 AM »
    @guhai .  Interesting respond, thanks for your thoughts.

    @mscitw, I had my differences with @ArtofFugue ideas but there was never a thought of any doubt to his responds. 

    On the other hand, I still find it difficult to understand your motives / notions.  Kindly provide us your thoughts on your frustrations.
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    Re: Difference between Bazi and ZWDS
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