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    « on: February 10, 2017, 07:38:00 PM »



    1. The first is to repay kindness.
    In past lifetimes, they had a good and happy relationship with one another. The children come to repay kindness, so they are very filial.

    2. The second is to exact revenge.
    The children are karmic debtors from past lifetimes. They are usually wastrels. When they grow up, they will cause the family’s ruin.

    3. The third is to collect debt.
    It all depends on how much the parents had owed the children [in previous life]. If the parents did not owe much, the children will die young. If the parents had owed the children a lot, the parents will spend a lot of money on the children’s education and take very good care of them, and the children will suddenly die when they are adults.

    4. The fourth is to repay debt.
    The children owed the parents in past lifetimes. When the amount is a lot, the children will look after their parents very attentively. If the children’s debt is little, they will take care of their parents just enough to ensure that their parents lack nothing. But there is no respect for their parents—the children only take care of their physical needs.

    When these four kinds of karmic links exist between people, they will become family. People will become relatives or friends when the karmic link is weaker. When the link is stronger, people will become family." (source)

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    Any more types of karmic links between parents and offspring which were left out? Feel free to add. I’m sure many members are interested to learn more. :)


    *Special thanks to @CyanCat for sharing, I posted as a new thread as this content was posted in another thread related to animals.
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    « Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 07:50:59 AM »
    Here's more about the four types of karmic links between children and parents (source: Pure-Land Zen, Zen Pure Land: Letters from Patriarch Yin Kuang translated by Master Thích Thiền Tâm).

    "Children are born from four causes:
    – repaying past kindness;
    – repaying past wrongs;
    – repaying past debts;
    – claiming past debts.

    “Repaying past kindness” means that the child incurred a debt of gratitude to the parents in a previous lifetime. To repay it, he or she has come to be born in the parents’ household and will attend painstakingly to their needs throughout life. He will ensure that they are well provided for while alive and receive decent burials and offerings after death. The child may even perform great public service, helping the country and the people, his name being remembered in history. Thus, when future generations honor him, they will extend their respect and admiration to his parents. Devoted children and virtuous grandchildren, nowadays, generally belong to this category.

    “Repaying past wrongs” means that in a past lifetime, the parents committed some wrong toward their present children. Therefore, the children have come to be born in their household seeking retribution. Thus, when still young, the children will be unruly and when grown, they will create misfortune and calamities implicating their parents. In old age the parents will be left in want, while their treatment after death will not only dishonor them, the shame will extend to the ancestors as well. At times, when holding key government positions, the children may even engage in criminal acts, causing the family’s assets to be seized, the lineage exterminated and the graves of the ancestors dug up and desecrated. Thus, when future generations abuse and revile them, they will also hate and despise their parents.

    “Repaying past debts” means that the child has come to be reborn in his parents’ household because, in a previous lifetime, he incurred a debt toward them. If it is a great debt, repayment can take the parents’ entire lifetime. If the debt is modest, repayment can cover part of the parents’ lifetime ... Thus, for example, some children assist their parents in business, only to die suddenly as the enterprise becomes profitable.

    “Claiming past debts” means that, in a past lifetime, the parents incurred some obligation toward their child, who has now been born in their household in order to claim payment. If the debt is small, the parents will merely have to spend money to feed and clothe him, attend to his health and education, find him a spouse and train him to establish himself in the community. Once the debt is paid, the child will die suddenly. If the debt is sizeable, the child may sometimes deplete all of the parents’ assets before dying."

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    « Reply #2 on: February 11, 2017, 12:43:16 PM »
    @CyanCat : Excellent sharing! +1 karma pt.
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    « Reply #5 on: February 12, 2017, 04:54:58 PM »
    @mushroom : Repaying good karmic debt is done willingly and lovingly.

    Parents doing harm to their own children maybe due to ill karmic debt.
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    « Reply #7 on: February 12, 2017, 09:00:32 PM »
    @CyanCat : Thank you for your great sharing! Many have been enlightened! :)
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    « Reply #8 on: February 13, 2017, 03:35:37 AM »
    You brought up the subject of karmic debt, so thank you as well! :)

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    « Reply #9 on: April 22, 2017, 10:21:27 PM »
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    前世因果 : 有子女者請仔細思量!
    Past and this lifes’ karma : Those who have offspring to think carefully!

    一個人到這個世間來投胎,父母與他一定有緣.
    To be able to reincarnate into this mortal world, a person definitely have karmic links and affinity with his/her parents.

    緣很複雜,最重要的有四大類;這四類就是佛在經上講的報恩、報怨、討債、還債。如果沒有這四種關係,不會來的,對面遇到也不相干,也不認識。所以人與人之間這四種緣,我們要清楚。
    Karmic links and affinity are complicated stuffs, mainly into 4 types:
    1) Repayment of Good Karma (Gratitude),
    2) Repayment of Bad Karma (Revenge),
    3) Karmic Debt Collection (Creditor),
    4) Karmic Debt Repayment (Debtor).
    Without these type of karmic links, one will not come into this mortal world. Even if met, persons without karmic links will have nothing to do with each other.
     
    如果是報恩來的,就是很乖的小孩,將來長大是孝子賢孫,不要教他,他就孝順。
    可見得他與前世有關係,這是先天的後天的教育能夠彌補先天。
    If an offspring is reincarnated to repay good karma (Gratitude), he/she would be a good and obedient child. When he/she grow up, he/she will be filial to parents even without parental guidance. Because during past life, the child have karmic links with the parents.

    如果是報怨的,將來就是怨家對頭,一定搞得家破人亡。
    If an offspring is reincarnated to repay bad karma (Revenge), he/she would be like enemy with parents, even may cause ruin of family.

    如果是討債的,就是父母欠他的; 欠得少,三、四歲就走了;欠得多,大概到十幾、二十歲,栽培他到念大學 念研究所,畢業了,他走了;討債的,往往都很得父母的歡心。
    If an offspring is reincarnated to collect karmic debt from parents, that means this life’s parents owed him/her karmic debt from a past life. If the karmic debt is little, the offspring will pass away at young tender age. If the karmic debt is huge, the offspring will exhaust parents’ wealth to study university, then pass away at young adulthood when karmic debt is repaid completely. This life’s parents will also dote him/her alot.

    如果是還債的,父母一生栽培他,看他欠父母多少,他要欠得多,他對你生活照顧得很周到,物質上的照顧很周到,但是沒有恭敬心.沒有孝順心,這是來還債的。如果他欠得少,縱然他自己非常富有,對父母的生活也很苛薄,讓你穿得暖、吃得飽就算了,不會給你享受的,這是欠少的。
    If an offspring is reincarnated to repay karmic debt to parents, the parents will spend entire life grooming him/her. Depending on the amount of karmic debt owed, the offspring will treat parents differently. If the karmic debt owed is huge, the offspring will take very good care of parents but without respect and filial heart. If the karmic debt owed is little, the offspring will only take care of parents’ basic needs without any surplus for enjoyment.

    To be continued…

    我們學佛的人懂得,遇到這個環境,討債、還債, 心就平了就不會計較了。
    要老實念佛,三界六道是苦海
    不是個好地方,還是到極樂世界去好。
    佛在經上常說“欲知前世因,今生受者是”,你要知道這前世的今生作者是”, 想想來世什麼樣的果報,現在造的因就是。
    因果,你看看現在受的就是; “欲知來世果,
    你看現在這個世界,你就曉得前世造什麼樣的因;再看現在社會大家造的因,就曉得將來社會會有什麼果報。
    歷史是一面鏡子!這決定不是假的。我們人不止這一生,人有過去世,過去世還有過去世,既然有過去世,當然一定就有未來世,三世都有自己。這一生的事情有的時候會想到,前生的事情不知道,但是前生的習氣偶爾會現行。譬如作夢,有許多夢中的境界就不是你平常能想像得到的為什麼會作這個夢?
    與前生有關係。
    現在外國盛行催眠術,所以外國人承認人有前世,有許多人前世是動物是畜生道來的,也有人道來的,也有別的星球上來的。
    這與佛法講的相應!
    我們在世間生生死死,死死生生,不止“千生”,無量劫來不斷地生死輪迴。
    生死輪迴是真的。
    我在美國遇到一個同修,他跟我說明這樁事實,他說他前生可能是住在美國的老華僑,死後到臺灣來投生的。
    他在臺灣做生意,第一次到美國,人地生疏。他有一天開車,無意當中經過三藩市灣區南部一個小鎮,他原定的路線不是往那邊走的,不知道怎麼會開錯了 方向,開到那個地方? 結果一到那個地方就覺得那裡好熟,連小路他都知道。
    他想:大概從前自己是在此地挖礦的華僑,要不然, 從來沒有來過,為什麼對這裡的街道與房子這麼熟?
    證明確實有前生。
    有時候,我們去旅遊,突然之間會感覺到那個地方很熟悉! 這就證明你過去生曾經到過。
    由此證明,人實實在在有前世。
    既有前世,當然就有來生,就有後世。
    所以,過去、現在、未來三世是真的。
    我們人一生,在這個世間“一飲一啄,莫非前定”,你一天吃多少,喝多少,用多少,命裡註定的,這一點不假。
    命怎麼註定的?
    是你前世所修的
    你這一生所得的財富,是你前生財布施的果報。
    你過去布施得多,你這一生發大財。
    所以我們看到大富大貴的人,懂得佛法的人不會羡慕,為什麼?種瓜得瓜,種豆得豆,他種的好因,他當然要得好報,這一定的道理。 我們明白了,我們今天種好因,來生就得好的果報,我們也有,我們比他更具足,“一飲一啄,莫非前定”
    所以要懂得種因。
    前世有修因,這世有果報的。
    這個人聰明智慧,他前世修法布施。
    那個人健康長壽,他修無畏布施。
    有些人是大公司的大企業家、董事長,小學都沒有畢業。
    他底下替他辦事的都是博士。
    那些博士前生修法布施,沒有修財布施:他這個老闆是修財布施,沒修法布施,所以這果報不一樣。
    我們看到有些窮人健康長壽,他智慧也沒有、錢財也沒有,他前生修的是無畏布施。
    所以你要懂得這個因,你就曉得現在的果報。
    我們能用真誠心、恭敬心、清淨心,修三種布施,果報自然得到。不要求,自然得果報。
    你得到果報能夠佈施,你將來這個果報輾轉
    真的是廣大無有窮盡。
    也許諸位要問,我看到那個人無惡不作,他發大財,也做大官,那豈不是他作惡得了善報?
    這是我們凡夫之見,凡夫只從表面上看,不曉得裡面的因果,不知道因果是三世的。
    他今天發大財、做大官,他前世修的善因
    今世得的善果,沒錯。
    今世他做了許多惡因,與他今世的果報不一樣,果報是前面的,來世則得惡報,要曉得這個道理。
    現世果報的不是沒有,那是善惡力量太強了,會遭到現世報。
    作的惡太大,不要等到來世果報,現在就得到果報了,所以說大善大惡就變成現世的果報。
    因果是自己造的,因與果自己可以轉變。
    我們常常講冤冤相報,這是一定要謹慎、要小心的。
    “決定不跟人結冤仇”,學佛的人要記住這一句話。
    縱然別人欺負我,別人陷害我,我也不記仇
    逆來順受,應當如此。
    為什麼他會陷害我,他為什麼不陷害別人?
    這裡頭一定有原因,我們自己沒有宿命通、沒有他心通
    不知道前世的事情。
    我們一定要修忍辱。
    如果前世我們有冤仇,這世他來報復,這筆帳就清了, 就結掉了,這是好事情,不要再爭執了。
    如果前世我並不欠他的,他來陷害我,我不記這個仇,是替我消災,好事情,何必要去計較?
    何必要去報復?用不著存這個心。
    這世他來報復,報完了之後,他反而佩服你,他就會跟你做朋友: 某人了不起,我過去想這麼多方法陷害他,你看他若無其事,他這個度量大,他能夠包容我。
    福是自己修的,不是天上掉下來的,
    不是僥倖可以得來的,一定要自己去修,要能夠包容人。
    你能夠容人,別人也能容你,你能夠歡喜對待別人,別人也能歡喜對待你,這是一定的道理。
    祝您們平安吉祥!

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    Re: Karmic links between parents and children
    « Reply #14 on: April 24, 2017, 11:09:21 PM »
    I personally think everyone we meet, we know, our relative all is here to collect or repay karma. We are somehow related.

    As for parents or kids, we will have to pay or collect the karma. But once done we still can plants good karma. Eg if our kids are here to collect karma, we work hard to raised them, at the same time don't forget to give them proper education and guidance this is planting good karma to them.

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    Need more further explanation on zwds children palace & spouse palace

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    Destined to be alone and without children? - ZWDS / Bazi

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    If need metal, have metal children?

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    Last post March 17, 2019, 12:44:32 PM
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    Tian Kui and Tuo Luo in children palace zwds

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    intelligent children ?

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    Started by jwhite997Board Request for birth chart reading [FREE]

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    How will my children treat me in old age?

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