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  • Your experience from yi ching T
    « on: February 13, 2017, 06:26:29 PM »
    This is my first thread in liu yao.
    recently i was amazed by how accurate the prediction from yi ching.
    before i share my experience, i want to share my limited knowledge in yi ching.

    i had known yi ching for quite a long time but never had any interested in it.
    however i start questioning my self how can this book so famous..
    lasts for long time since ancient chinese era together with laozi dao de jing or suntzu art of war.
    of course there are many good reasons in it, so i start to dig further about this topic.

    then i read some article how confusius praised yi ching and said:
    if only i learn yi ching in a younger age, i can prevent myself from making false decision in life.
    okay, after i read the line, i become very interested to try yi ching.

    Please note: i only learn yi ching divination for 1 month, i don't know anything about school or sect,
    including advance reading which each line contains animal/shio like in bazi. maybe i will slowly learn that for later.
    so this is purely a newbie viewpoint, i am using ichingonline.net to cast, then i choose throw manually.
    after that i will get the explanation directly from website.
    if there are two or more changing line, i will see the transforming hexagram too.

    okay so this is what makes the way i cast is slightly different from others.
    i don't using chinese coin to cast, i'm using guan yin coin to cast,
    this is an old thai amulet which create by lp pern.
    for people who wear thai amulet, i think they know if a holy monk concentrate an amulet,
    the amulet surely have a very clean energy and power.

    if there are many story an amulet can save someone's life from accident, i believe it.
    there must be a good reason why even prime minister of thailand or many hk actor & actress wear thai amulet right?
    so this is my amulet picture, the shape is like coin in a waterproof plastic casing. the pic i share not mine, but similar like that.
    because i lazy to take the photo, placed in my altar.

    i choose the image of guan yin as yang, and twin dragon as yin.
    however i don't throw the coin, i don't want to damage it, so i spin it only.
    because i only have one amulet, so i spin it three times to draw a line and then keep spin it until get a hexagram.
    in the next post, i will tell how accurate the divine.



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  • Re: Your experience from yi ching T
    « Reply #1 on: February 13, 2017, 09:09:58 PM »
    So i do my trial & error to yi ching divination and i come into my temporary conclusion:

    1. At first i often got wrong prediction, this is because i ask some fool question which is not the problem. If you have the problem, automatically you can feel it from your heart, then it become energy sent to yi ching. Thats why you need to write your question in a paper or website, because send your resonance of energy.

    2. I am skeptic type that dont believe something until i prove it by my self the result is constant or accurate. What if i ask the same question, do i get same hexagram everytime i ask or ending in different hexagram?

    Okay, this is the most important. You will be amazed by how yi ching give the same viewpoint although the hexagram is different but the meaning is close or similar. But.. With note!

    A. If you only for playing or not your real problem like what i explained in point 1, you will get uncorrelated hexagram too.
    B. Dont ask the same question in the same day.
    C. Using different question but similar topic, this is my example:

    My first question is about how is my luck this year, can i expand my business or not? The hexagram tell me is not the time yet, endure first.

    Several days later i had been spot a good place, i want to rent it to open new branch, i ask yi ching and was amazed the hexagram is different but had similar meaning.

    For my third try i want to ask about opening helmet shop (this business is new for me) i ask yi ching and i cant interpret the meaning because didnt have any correlation. But.. It had many changing line and the hexagram transform into exactly same number like my first try hexagram! I was totally amazed by this.

    The last is today: in front of my shop is my competitor shop, his shop have a better location compared than me but he had closed the shop for almost 3 weeks. I was thinking why, did he not want open it anymore or preparing find new place. If yes i want to take over his shop then.

    Then the result of hexagram show signs of still open, not moved. And i must stop allying in north, should seek help in south. Do you know what? My shop is located in south, he is in north.

    Okay no need to further my explanation, all of 4 divination tell me to stay in my course right now, all are the same!

    For now i write only 2 point, in the next post i will share other point.

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  • Re: Your experience from yi ching T
    « Reply #2 on: February 14, 2017, 11:26:02 PM »
    3. the quality of diviner.

    i think this is the most important part. king wen found the meaning of every hexagram in his meditation.
    if wen wang gua is the marriage of yiching & bazi. what if we combine with buddhism?

    in taoism to make a good "hu" depends solely by the maker, greater his mind power, greater the result.
    in buddhism, if you have illness and asking sincerely to boddhisatva or buddha,
    you can be better or maybe will be recovery, do you believe?
    many people have these experience including me.

    do you ever read some experience say his illness cured because meditation?
    there are many story like that.
    to read this topic further, you can buy ajahn brahm book : emptiness and stillness.

    i have some trial where me & my friend ask the same question by yi ching but he got funny answer
    and i got a more closer situation. i wonder what's the difference? so this is my conclusion for now:

    "mind power of the diviner"

    for reader who read my previous thread, i was start chanting buddhist sutra since 1 jan 2013.
    safe to say i never skip my daily chanting even once until today and it had been passed 4 years.
    many good things i've got by it.

    this past few months i start to learn meditation too, finally i know why many people recommend meditation at least 20 minutes per day.
    because it really clear your mind for whatever problem you are facing right now, it is art of peace.

    it is very hard for me to empty my mind or focus on something,
    but luckily due to my 4 years daily chanting routine, i keep better in it.
    too far from perfection but i think there are many mystery in my head
    for how can chanting buddhist sutra only can improve someone wisdom, but it really happening to me.
    i will share the detail someday later.

    so if king wen got the inspiration of gua by meditation.
    if to write a good "hu", you must reach: "thinking but not thinking state"
    if to pray for boddhisatva depends on your sincerity,
    how you empty your mind: you are pray for something but actually not wish that something.
    it is happening naturally.. like water flow to the lowest place (sea).
    if want to change your destiny, you must doing many good deeds.

    all of these have same connection, to get an accurate divination result, you are need to:

    1. clean your mind & body. at least you can eat vegetarian food for one day (good if you always vegetarian)
    and do meditation to clean your mind & body. more clean you are, more pure your heart is, more accurate the result.

    2. how much your sincerity? we must show real respect because you are asking some help or clue from divine power.
    you must be low profile, release your ego. never in history.. the sample for arrogant people have good ending.
    more wise you are, more low profile you will be. it is naturally.

    3. to prevent ghost do the divination, you can toss the coin in your buddha altar.
    before toss can chanting ta pei cou too. there are no ghosts dare to disturb you.

    although i am not expert in this..
    i am sure enough if you do these 3 you will be amazed by how accurate the divination from yi ching!

    the most important part is depends on you.. your quality of diviner.




    « Last Edit: February 14, 2017, 11:39:02 PM by Kannon »

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  • Re: Your experience from yi ching T
    « Reply #3 on: February 21, 2017, 03:50:32 PM »
    This is my latest experience with i ching.

    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=14729.new#new


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  • Re: Your experience from yi ching T
    « Reply #4 on: February 23, 2017, 11:51:53 PM »
    … it enables any reasonably unselfish person who is capable of fulfilling a few simple conditions both to foresee and to control the course of future events! By rightly interpreting and strictly following the I Ching’s interpretation of universal laws, we can make ourselves as farsighted as the lesser Gods!… It can be used to explain the present and predict the future with almost terrifying precision!… My version is almost wholly concentrated on the aspect of divination.

    this is john blofeld line In his translation of the I Ching book. in my opinion that few simple conditions is you need some sincerity and focus mind, like i said before is the quality of diviner.

    Like Jung, I have been struck by the extraordinary sensation aroused by my consultations of the book, the feeling that my question has been dealt with exactly as by a living being in full possession of even the unspoken facts involved in both the question and its answer. At first this sensation comes near to being terrifying and, even now, I find myself inclined to handle and transport the book rather as if it had feelings capable of being outraged by disrespectful treatment.

    As to how the book succeeds in giving answers which produce this uncanny effect, I do not know…. If you say that the oracle owes its effectiveness to the subconscious of the one who asks the questions, or to the unconscious (which is probably universal and therefore common to all men), or to the One Mind (in the Zen sense), or to God or a god or the gods, or to the philosopher’s Absolute, I shall be inclined to agree with every one of these suggestions, for I believe that most of all of these terms are imperfect descriptions of a single unknown and unknowable but omnipotent reality…. In other words, I am entirely satisfied with the results produced by the I Ching; but do not presume to explain the lofty process by which they are achieved

    The very first time I did this, I was overawed to a degree that amounted to fright, so strong was the impression of having received an answer to my question from a living, breathing person. I have scarcely ever used it since without recovering something of that awe, though it soon came to be characterized by a pleasurable excitement rather than by fear. Of course I do not mean to assert that the white pages covered with black printer’s ink do in fact house a living spiritual being. I have dwelt at some length on the astonishing effect they produce chiefly as a means of emphasizing how extraordinarily accurate and, so to speak, personal, are its answers in most cases. Yet, if I were asked to assert that the printed pages do not form the dwelling of a spiritual being or at least bring us into contact with one by some mysterious process, I think I should be about as hesitant as I am to assert the contrary.


    actually i have this kind of question yet i hold to give any comment with this, actually i'm in my process to find, do someone have same question and what is their viewpoint. sometimes feel terrifying by how accurate the i ching represent my present and forecast the outcome.

    i ever have this kind of thinking.. whatever is it, i think it must incorporate some kind of extremely wise, living intelligence. although there are many others who have been misled by the oracle. one thing for sure i think i ching must be used for good purposes! this is a must. if not you will misled by the oracle. but mostly you will be wiser than before if you use i ching long enough.

    this is very good quote of i ching from philip k dick :  If you use the I Ching long enough and continually enough, it will begin to change and shape you as a person.


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    Re: Your experience from yi ching T
    « Reply #5 on: February 24, 2017, 02:19:00 PM »



    Okay, this is the most important. You will be amazed by how yi ching give the same viewpoint although the hexagram is different but the meaning is close or similar. But.. With note!

    A. If you only for playing or not your real problem like what i explained in point 1, you will get uncorrelated hexagram too.
    B. Dont ask the same question in the same day.
    C. Using different question but similar topic, this is my example:


    Thanks for sharing your yiching journey....guess that each individual has different experiences thru yiching, thus i guess we will respect that as long as the outcome is correct.

    Pertaining to your 3 points above..i share my experiences.
    A. Even if i ask serious question..i get uncorrelated hexagram...but i would think that we failed to decipher the hexagram instead.

    B. I asked the same questions 2-3 times a day(for some cases) since i can't understand the 1st or 2nd and correlate the situation. And  the last one works out accurately.

    C. The question need to be asked clearly...else the hexagram will be confusing.

    Thanks for introducing ahjarn chah brahm book...i will try searching for it...


    Regards

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  • Re: Your experience from yi ching T
    « Reply #6 on: February 27, 2017, 05:44:50 PM »
    This is my further sharing. Try to meditation or chanting buddhist mantra before you do i ching divination.
    whenever i do it the accuracy is very high.

    actually this story not to shared in public because i afraid will mislead other people.
    but for the sake of bigger purpose i think is fine.
    i ching can predict not only your future but also everything including 4d number.
    i had encounter these experiences not only once but a couple of times already.
    sometimes the given number of hexagram is exactly precise or same with the result of 4d number the day you asked.

    because i already prove the accuracy of i ching, i not dare to buy 4d number with this.
    because this will create a dangerous future for you.
    please remember this! you must not make i ching for these kind of petty purpose,
    or else i ching will mislead you and mislead your divination.

    i ching is like a sharp sword,
    if the owner of the sword is noble, it can be used to create good karma and happy life.
    if the owner of the sword is petty, this will lead to the destruction.
    because the way i ching works like tao,
    who follow tao will safe and happily in life.

    the right way of using i ching divination is for example:
    when you found dilemma of choosing important decision in your life..
    (the option should between good purposes too)
    or when you need advice in life..
    whatever it is, the title is for good purposes and not harm other people..

    my purpose of sharing is:
    we as human is ordinary being, although some of the people have supernatural or psychic power
    but most of us is ordinary people.
    usually we think we are the smartest person in the world, had choose the right choice already..
    but then the result in the future can be a total failure that you could not return anymore,
    in the worst scenario create a depression that make you crazy.

    what i write in i ching is directly based from my experiences,
    i do hope every people can get a better life, be happy in life..
    besides our god, i think i ching is the best and the most wise source for us to help choose important decision in life,
    to help us predict the future.
    if you use i ching in the right way, i ching will be your best partner ever in life.

    because every hexagram have deep wisdom in it.
    one of the example:
    when you in your lucky time, you will be aware with unfortunate thing.
    when you in your bad time, you will find hope and be patiently wait the change.
    this only a small part of example, you will find more wisdom along your journey in i ching.

    this is why philip k dick quote so beautiful:
    If you use the I Ching long enough and continually enough, it will begin to change and shape you as a person.

    so please do note these:
    1. do not use i ching in bad purpose or else you wont know when i ching divination mislead you.
    2. the accuracy of the divination fully depends on the quality of diviner, so start cultivate your self.

    hope you all be happy in life!

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  • Re: Your experience from yi ching T
    « Reply #7 on: March 10, 2017, 12:24:21 AM »


    this is a very clear explanation from venerable master chin kung about the theory of curing your disease by chanting sutras.
    which can be used when you need advice from i ching divination.
    i believe everyone can do it.
    improve your inner quality of mind to get high accuracy.
    hope this help.

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  • Re: Your experience from yi ching T
    « Reply #8 on: December 31, 2017, 11:42:11 AM »

    to have the accurate outcome to your ques
    you have to have good
    quality brain energy

    write down date and ques
    need to think about your ques 
    ask the ques

    i use 3 coins manually throwing

    dont think that you will have ghosts
    if do iching
     
    but i did use to go tao temple
    have done my chantings in the temple

    if hex is not easy to see answer, if you can not understand hex 
    then
    ask the same questions 1234x?
    in the same day

    have to ask ques 2x to be accurate
    you can see same outcome if you do the ques over 2x

    some hexes have many changes that are hard to see the answer

    but your answer can predict future

    need to think of options in your answers


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