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  • Secret Combination (暗拱)
    « on: February 28, 2017, 03:28:15 PM »
    From online sources here and there:

     有些八字,表面上看很平淡,既见不到明现的财、官、印、食所谓的“四吉星” ,又不见喜用神强壮健旺,怎么也找不到发富发贵的根源,但的确是富贵之命。这是什么原因?其实是内藏乾坤,暗有玄机,那就是不见之形的暗拱,暗会在起作用。由于几乎所有命理书籍没有介绍这方面的知识,所以就无法识破其中奥秘。现在我就揭开其神秘面纱,让有缘人共同来领悟,掌握它。

        暗拱、暗会不是富贵八字才可以拱,平常的八字,贫浅的八字都可以用,因为暗拱、暗会实际是一种力量。吉者力量倍增,锦上添花;凶者凶力同样大增,雪上加霜。这就是命局的造化。

    Some bazi, looks very plain and normal , do not have any resource stars, wealth element, duty officer eating good , these 4 important gods, and also their useful gods do not have enough strength and moreover one cannot find any reason for this kind of chart to become wealthy and powerful BUT they are indeed a bazi chart that is of someone who is wealthy and powerful. What is then the reason behind this? Its hidden "hidden tiger crouching dragon". Its due to the power of hidden combination (暗拱). Due to little has been written on this topic, i am now going to reveal the secret of this hidden combination. The element or god that is produced due to the hidden combination can be either a useful god or a taboo god. If its a useful god, it enhances the chart significantly and if its a taboo god , similarly it causes the chart to be even worst.



    论格局,虚拱夹之物,可补原局体用神和格局用神之缺。如用神刚好是拱夹出来的“虚神”,则命造的层次都很高。用虚神者大忌虚神填实之运。
         很多人也还没注意到正确夹拱诀的问题。自古命书没写明白过拱夹虚神成立的条件,近代虚物经常乱用,是因不理解拆格正途,在不能解释的情况下只好用错误的虚神夹供诀,去自圆其说。   
        大家吃饭用筷子夹东西, 两个筷子头要同时一只手握住,才能夹上东西,道理就这么简单。不是徐乐吾氏的想夹就夹,,想拱就拱的夹拱论。八字没有什么复杂的内容,只要把握住原则和方法就可以.

    “子平夹诀 ”:只能夹出中间虚的一个地支,相隔两位或以上就不能论夹。夹的两柱要天干相同并相邻。。
                   比如并排的癸丑癸卯可夹寅。并排的乙丑癸卯两柱就不夹。
    “子平拱诀”:拱的两柱要天干相同并相邻! 如有亥未两支,要亥未相邻,天干相同这两个相邻的柱才会暗拱
                   出卯。此时亥未才看成暗合木局。否则三合局如果缺中轴物的都不能拱成合化局。拱出的合化
                   局和正常的三合局一样,都是一股额外之旺气,各支本气的作用还在,化神不透时三合全局的
                   旺气不能直接作用于天干。


      夹或拱的条件:
          1。两柱天干相同
          2。两柱要相邻并排(年和时柱虽有一些虚情的关系,但不能真的产生拱或夹的作用)


    In recent years, a lot of people who do not have knowledge about this hidden combination, has been misusing it. It has to follow a certain rules in order for this secret combination to occur. As the old text did not mention much about this subject, many has missed out the important aspect of this. Secret combination are similar to trio combination but out of the 3 elements, you only have 2 elements, lacking one element for the trio combination to occur.  The missing element when successfully undergo secret combination, will actually have an effect on your bazi. its called 暗拱. But for the missing element to be successfully undergo hidden combination, the rules are as follows.

    Main rules for combination to occur are

    1) the earthly branch of the 2 elements must be of neighbouring branch
    2)the heavenly branch of the 2 elements must be of the same element/god.
    3)

    eg. 如 甲子、甲寅相邻时夹出暗丑虚神  甲   甲    X   X
                                                       子   寅    X   X





       








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    Re: Secret Combination (暗拱)
    « Reply #2 on: March 07, 2017, 03:36:06 PM »
    Dear All Sifu,

    It seem to be very interesting , hope someone can translate it into english

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  • Re: Secret Combination (暗拱)
    « Reply #5 on: August 15, 2017, 10:37:47 PM »
    Thanks all sifu in advance :).

    I also would like to know.

    tq tq very much

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  • Re: Secret Combination (暗拱)
    « Reply #6 on: August 15, 2017, 10:54:08 PM »
    Good initiative to check chinese webpages for CM information!

    There're tons of free information lying around the chinese websites, waiting for people to study them. It's a matter of whether you know the "keywords" to find them. You can virtually find anything you want in the chinese CM internet world!
    By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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  • Re: Secret Combination (暗拱)
    « Reply #7 on: August 16, 2017, 09:08:29 AM »
    How about my chart...
    Hour -> Geng Yin
    Day  -> Xin Hai

    is there related to plain or fall down or rising star or lonely in old age?

    Thank's in advanced all Master.

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    Re: Secret Combination (暗拱)
    « Reply #8 on: August 16, 2017, 06:14:37 PM »
    This one I have ever read once somewhere in websites.
    It is stated that the element in the middle of the branch would "pop-up" if the respective stem appears.
    Hai-Chou pop up zi if water in HS
    Zi-Yin pop up chou if water in HS
    Chou-Mao pop up yin if wood in HS
    Yin-Chen pop up mao if wood in HS
    Mao-Si pop up chen if wood in HS
    ... etc

    The pop up element is determined by the HS, such as wood HS represents yin, mao, chen... fire of si, wu, wei... metal shen, you, xu...
    And it is true that both branch are next to each other.

    It is written that pop up means hidden image / secondary image, a transition in between, or take a trace in-between season transition.

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  • Re: Secret Combination (暗拱)
    « Reply #11 on: August 16, 2017, 11:21:02 PM »
    How about my chart...
    Hour -> Geng Yin
    Day  -> Xin Hai

    is there related to plain or fall down or rising star or lonely in old age?

    Thank's in advanced all Master.

    What about ..
    Month : Yi   Mao
    Day : Yi   Mao

    Seem have double of each...


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  • Re: Secret Combination (暗拱)
    « Reply #13 on: April 09, 2018, 12:00:24 AM »
    Hi there,

    Does my chart fit the 暗 拱 transaction of pushing out 申 since I have 庚 in my year HS?

    丁辛戊庚
    酉未子午

    Would appreciate someone were to pinpoint if it would have any positive/negative effects towards my chart. Thank you!

    Regards,
    Bryan

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