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  • Setting Notes for Liu Yao Divination
    « on: April 14, 2017, 01:06:04 AM »
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    Method to easily determine Chamber / Palace of Hexagram and Subject line location (from Jack Chiu)

    1) If the lower and upper trigrams are the same, gua is an Originating Hexagram. Subject at line six. (Dui over Dui)

    2) If second and fifth lines are different, gua is a Returning Spirit Hexagram. Lower trigram indicates the Chamber / Palace. Subject at line three. (Heaven over Fire)

    3) If third and sixth lines are same polarity and do not satisfy rules 1 & 2, gua is a First or Second Generation Hexagram (subject at line one or two). Upper trigram indicates the Chamber / Palace. (Fire over Mountain, Wind over Fire)

    4) If third and sixth lines are of different polarity, the complement (inverse) of the lower trigram indicates the Chamber / Palace.
    a. If upper trigram and complement trigram are the same, gua is Third Generation Hexagram. Subject at line three. (Heaven over Earth)
    b. If upper trigram and complement are different at line four, gua is a Fourth Generation Hexagram. Subject at line four. (Water over Mountain)
    c. If upper trigram and complement are different at line five, gua is a Wandering Spirit Hexagram. Subject at line four. (River over Wind)
    d. Else, gua is a Fifth Generation Hexagram, Subject at fifth line. (River over Heaven)


    Assigning the Five Elements to the six lines of a Hexagram (Na Zhi assigning the branches)   
    Trigram - Qian - Zhen - Kan - Gen - Dui - Li - Xun - Kun 
    Upper Line 4 - Wu - Wu - Shen - Xu - Hai - You - Wei - Chou
    Lower Line 1 - Zi - Zi - Yin - Chen - Si - Mao - Chou - Wei
    (Will attachment clear table later)

    For upper trigram Qian fourth yao = Wu.
    For lower trigram Qian, first yao = Zi.
    As lines progress upward; Yang branches move forward and Yin branches move backwards.

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    Ren .. Hi to you and all

    I help you to post from Jack Chiu's book on Wen Wang Gua ...

    The Month Branch
    The Command of the Month or Yue-Ling - is related to the solar month Is defined by the 24 Solar Segments at the
    Day of Casting. It is in fact the Month Branch JI & based upon the Stems and Branches Recording System. The
    Month Branch will have impact on the strengths of the Wuxïng.
    In The Gold Yarrows it says.
    Literally it means, 'The month branch is the outline ( of strengths of the lines ) of all the hexagrams.

    However, the strengths of Wu-xing is not a quantitative measure of how strong the Wu-xing would be in a particular
    month. so the judgment of all the effects which acted upon an object is quite subjective.

    Further, if the Line is being
    the opposite of the Month Branch. it is called Yue-Po In terms of Seasonal Strengths. they are the Death . or the
    Imprisonment which are considered weak and will have very limited ability to impose any effects onto other Lines.

    Best Regards
    V.
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  • Re: Setting Notes for Liu Yao Divination
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  • Re: Setting Notes for Liu Yao Divination
    « Reply #3 on: April 14, 2017, 08:35:32 AM »
    So many contents quoted from Jack Chiu's book, is it copyrighted?
    By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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  • Re: Setting Notes for Liu Yao Divination
    « Reply #7 on: April 24, 2017, 12:47:20 AM »
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    Hi Ren..all

    I add something interesting .. about Wen Wang Gua..
    From Sanmao Shepherd HOW TO USE THE I CHING AS AN ORACLE FOR WEALTH
    Using the I CHING or Book of Changes as one of the forms of divination has a history over three thousand years in China. The I CHING is a book
    believed to hold the truths of lives and many scholars have added commentaries to it. Around 1668 AC, Ding Yue-Kang, or , (pen name
    , meaning Old Wild Crane), who spent nearly all his lifetimes in researching the I CHING and its real time application in divination,
    published the book ‘Supplement to the I CHING Divination ’. In his book, he derived a set of rules for the interpretation of hexagrams,
    including the inference of future dates and therefore, eliminated the need for correlating modern incidents with historic events. As of today, this is the
    most popular, accurate, and a must read reference book for the I CHING divination.
    According to Old Wild Crane, different subjects of divination have different rules. The purpose of writing this book is to assist readers in gaining skills of
    translating hexagrams generated from the I CHING divinations related to wealth. The methodologies from Old Wild Crane are adopted. A basic
    knowledge of the I CHING is highly recommended. My other book, ‘Introduction to the I CHING (An Overview of the Book of Changes for Beginners)’,
    gives a quick fundamental idea to newcomers.
    Can the I CHING divination help to create a big fortune? The answer is ‘no’ because it is just a tool to help one to resolve confusions and make sound
    decisions. A correct decision is just one of the prerequisites that lead to a success; otherwise, we would have uncountable amounts of Bill Gates in China
    already. For example, in market trading, the hexagram may advise the moving direction of an owned stock within a certain period, but it cannot help one
    to single out a profitable stock from the market.
    The oracle usage of the ‘I CHING’ helps a person to prepare a better approach for the unknown based on the known facts. One of the interpretations of
    the word ‘I ( , yi)’ is ‘not fixed’, which implies one can never know the exactness thus should always follow the conscience and do whatever needs to
    be done. Never let predictions turn into fates, but make them the advices from a wise man

    Keys to a Successful Divination
    Whether the generated hexagram can accurately reflect the future phenomenon or not depends on many factors.
    1. The mind must be sincere and focused on the subject of the divination. It is not unusual for the hexagram to reflect other matters if there is
    more than one occupies the brain.
    2. The subject matter needs to have a well-defined scope so that there is no ambiguity about the selection of the ‘Master Entity.’ For
    example, the question ‘will I have a promotion?’ is much better than ‘how is my future in the company that I am serving?’ More about the
    ‘Master Entity’ is in the following chapters.
    3. The environment needs to be quiet without distraction throughout the process.
    4. One must have an open attitude without any prediction or imagination about the future; otherwise, the hexagram may be a mirror of the 
    mental state.
    5. Do not have more than two divinations each day. The recommendation is ‘no more than one unless it is an urgent matter’.
    6. Do not have more than three divinations for the same event. In most cases, only the first two are reliable.
    7. Avoid repeating the divination for the same event on the same day.
    Perhaps ‘when to release the coins in hands or container’ is the hardest to control for a beginner. One needs to focus on the subject matter when
    shaking the coins, and naturally release them when the state of the mind reaches a certain saturation point. There are six tosses. Generally, the first
    toss should have the longest time in shaking coins, and the last toss has the least time. This needs a lot of practice.
    What is above form is called Tao; What is within form is called Tool.
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    Confucius

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    Re: Setting Notes for Liu Yao Divination
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    HI EVERYONE









    « Last Edit: April 24, 2017, 03:36:51 PM by voglee »
    What is above form is called Tao; What is within form is called Tool.
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  • Re: Setting Notes for Liu Yao Divination
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    Hi Voglee, could you tell us from which source you got the attached images "3.3 The Effect of a Changeable Line"?

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  • Re: Setting Notes for Liu Yao Divination
    « Reply #11 on: April 24, 2017, 08:07:35 PM »
     Hi Llim... and all ...

    I have bought this book from Amazon...

    Sanmao Shepherd HOW TO USE THE I CHING AS AN ORACLE FOR WEALTH

    https://www.amazon.com/CHING-Oracle-Wealth-Introduction-Divination-ebook/dp/B00FAT7R5W

    Is very smart .. and interesting !!
    V.


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    @Jlim Hi...

    I try to post this ...






    Your opinion ..?
    Best luck to you..
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  • Re: Setting Notes for Liu Yao Divination
    « Reply #14 on: April 24, 2017, 08:57:31 PM »
    Hi voglee, thank you for sharing pages from the book.  I am also a Liu Yao user and appreciate your participation in the Liu yao topics. But please remember that the book is copyrighted, so do not post too many sample pages.

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