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  • Re: Blindman Bazi's 12-House System
    « Reply #30 on: June 29, 2017, 12:22:10 PM »
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    I find it awkward to share info which I totally don't agree using.

    See how lah, or let others share.
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    Re: Blindman Bazi's 12-House System
    « Reply #31 on: June 29, 2017, 02:45:24 PM »
    Try this method, but some point missing or inaccurate.
    Accuracy below 50%, probably because I was born in 闰月

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  • Re: Blindman Bazi's 12-House System
    « Reply #32 on: June 29, 2017, 03:38:42 PM »
    @anton8888 : Same here. My accuracy is 60-70% after trying for family's charts.

    Book didn't state how to deal with leap months, so you may want to try to adjust the mth around.
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  • Re: Blindman Bazi's 12-House System
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  • Re: Blindman Bazi's 12-House System
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  • Re: Blindman Bazi's 12-House System
    « Reply #35 on: June 29, 2017, 05:01:49 PM »
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    Hi All,

    Historical researches...

    http://fivearts.prophpbb.com/topic250.html
    PDF: THE CHINESE SCIENCE OF FATE-CALCULATION" by Chao Wei-pang

    Regards

     :)

    Very good book @Axis thanks for sharing. I think pre-tang dynasty chinese divination methods were also quite advanced. Face Reading, Bone feeling, Astrology, Iching coin casting, but also other powerful divination methods derived from the 易经.
    I think the story of 鬼谷子 asking his students 孙滨, 庞涓 to pick a flower to present to him. When they brought the flowers back to him he was able to make extremely accurate predictions about their future. It goes to say at high levels of divination anything can be used to predict.

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  • Re: Blindman Bazi's 12-House System
    « Reply #36 on: June 29, 2017, 07:46:44 PM »
    Bone feeling (mo gu) is another type of divination/fortune-telling method which fascinated me alot. I watched from one taiwanese show, a mo gu master was able to pinpoint an accurate past event just by feeling the hand's bone.

    Duration of time is very short, just a few seconds of feeling... from the lounge to his office, the master felt the customer's hand while they walked into his office.

    Master Ghost Valley (Gui Gu Zi) is also very fascinating - he's able to tell a person's fate just by Hour and Year stems. No need Daymaster's strength or even Daymaster. I got this book with modern explanation/interpretation of the lines.

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  • Re: Blindman Bazi's 12-House System
    « Reply #37 on: June 29, 2017, 08:17:00 PM »
    ............
    I think the story of 鬼谷子 asking his students 孙滨, 庞涓 to pick a flower to present to him. When they brought the flowers back to him he was able to make extremely accurate predictions about their future. It goes to say at high levels of divination anything can be used to predict.

    Found the story! Very enlightening!


    鬼谷子两朵花预言庞涓孙膑归宿

    在鬼谷子的细心的教导下,孙膑和庞涓刻苦学习,精心研究,对兵法已颇有造诣了,眼见时光荏苒,三年有余,俩人想离开鬼谷子,到外面闯世界的欲望也越来越大。

    一日,庞涓下山打水,听说魏国用重金诚聘贤能,担任将相,心里的火再也按耐不住了,他急忙回到山中向鬼谷子先生辞行。但又不知下山之后能否成功,而求先生为他预测,于是鬼谷子说:“你到山中摘一只花来,我为你占上一课。”
    庞涓就到山中去采花,可六月的天,花期都过了,找了半天只找到一只草花。庞涓将此花连根拔起,想回去见先生,可又想草花不好,恐成不了气候,又把它扔在地上,但周围实在找不到任何花,只好又将草花拣起来,放在袖中,回去见先生说:“山里没有花,只有草花”。鬼谷子接过花。看花离土时间长了,加之又晒太阳,已经半萎了。“你知道这花的名字吗?这是马兜玲。一开就是十二朵,正好预示了你的发迹年数,采于鬼谷(鬼谷子先生隐居的地名)见日而萎,你成功的地方定与“魏”字有关,应在魏国无疑,我送你八个字,一定要记住。”

    “弟子愿意领教。”

    “遇羊而荣,遇马而瘁。”

    当时庞涓并不知这八个字是何意。

    庞涓自从离开鬼谷子以后,一路来到了魏国。首先,他先到了相国王错家与王错大谈兵法。王错很感兴趣,就把他推荐给魏惠王。庞涓入朝的时候,正赶上魏王用膳,疱人送上来一头蒸羊。庞涓一喜,因为先生说过:遇羊而荣。看来是该从此发迹了,果然他一路是青云直上。

    后来大家都知道,庞涓被孙膑用减灶之计引入马陵道,并在深谷中设下埋伏,庞涓也死于乱箭之下正应了“遇马而瘁”之语。

    又过了一年的时间,庞涓让鬼谷子的老友墨翟捎来一封信希望孙膑能来魏国,共图大业,孙膑十分高兴,欲辞先生而投奔魏王,鬼谷子见状想给孙膑占上一课,也让他去摘一朵山花来。而孙膑等不及到山中采花,见先生几案上供有一枚黄菊,就随手摘下一只,呈给先生看后又插入瓶中。先生说:

    “此花已被折断,不为完好,必有伤残,但性耐岁寒,经霜不坏,虽有残害,不为大凶。且喜供养瓶中,为人所爱重。瓶乃范金而成,钟鼎之属,终当威行霜雪。但此花一经提拔,恐一时不能得意,仍旧归瓶,你的成功之处,应还是故土,我给你改个名,把“宾”(孙膑原名为宾)字改为“膑”。”孙膑辞过先生,就直去魏国了。孙膑本是齐国人,小时候连年战争,父亲和兄长均死于沙场,万般无奈,只好随母亲来魏国朝歌。

    按先生的预测他应去齐国故土发展才对,我们知道后来孙膑被师弟庞涓所害致残之后,孙膑才逃到齐国受齐王重用。

    (作者:柒易)

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  • Re: Blindman Bazi's 12-House System
    « Reply #38 on: June 30, 2017, 05:07:49 PM »
    Reposted and consolidated in 1st post.
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