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    « on: December 14, 2017, 03:07:17 AM »
    Hi all,

    I have a bit of confusion about my birth time (and the way to calculate it):

    I was born on 29 Dec 1994 at 15:05 GMT+1 at 12 longitude (Rome)

    Using bazi-calculator.com I can get two different hour pillars by playing with the GMT setting (0 or +1):

    Ren   |Xin
    Shen |Wei

    How can I be sure about which one is correct? I would really appreciate to know which characteristics are associated with each hour pillar.

    Thank you in advance!

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  • Re: Birth time and personal charateristics
    « Reply #1 on: December 14, 2017, 04:00:43 AM »
    Rome is GMT + 1.
    GMT and UTC are the same thing, more or less, just one is a timezone the other is a standard... But as far as numbers go is the same.
    In that case, if you see at a place saying that Rome is +2, that would be because they are adding Daylight Savings into it, but it isn't the correct thing to do. Real timezone is GMT + 1, then it gets daylight savings turned on for part of the year.
    I don't know why you would think GMT+0.

    The hour pillar changes based on uneven hours. So if you are born 15:05, there is good chance after adjustment it may go to previous hour pillar(and the earth branch is always the same, so 15-17 will always be Shen Yang Metal branch(monkey), while before 15 will always be previous one of Wei Yin Earth.

    There are some indicators we can use to remember it easily. For example all peach blossom branches will be at 6 and 12 hours.
    In that sense You Rooster will be 17-19, so middle of that is 18/6pm.
    While Mao Rabbit will be 5-7, so middle of that is 6 am.
    While the Wu is at noon(11-13) and Zi is at midnight(23-1), taking the 12/24/0 part.
    Basically like showing the 4 directions but from point of view of time.

    Once we remember that it is really fast and easy to make the current branch based on time, for Yi Jing, BaZi or any other system out there.
    If we want to use True Solar Adjustment, knowing how the country we live in operates can help us make that without writing as well.

    For example Rome use Daylight savings, that would need -1 hour to get closer to True Solar Time.
    However since you are born in december, we can be sure that won't be active, so adjustment will be much less.

    In general adjustment for True Solar Time will rarely be very much, if there isn't Daylight savings active, and it will be very similar amount from year to year and month to month. So once you remember a specific numbers in a place, can just apply that everywhere(for example in my country right now we can get True Solar Time by subtracting 30 min, and that will work for most of these month probably even after).

    Saves some writing or using pc/apps to view some stuff around...
    By the same rule it usually means that if someone is born in the winter in Europe and is born near even hour 22,24 etc. you can be almost sure you won't need time adjustment, because it's very unlikely that will move it to previous or next hour branch.
    And there are many more shortcuts that we can use to save a little time when reading big amounts of charts... But in general my idea was, for 15:05 it is very likely it will move to another branch after adjustment. In here I calculate it around 14:51 for that date there.. May not be perfect, but should be close. By the rules already mentioned that would be Wei branch, and then we can get the Stem based on the Day Stem. So in this case Xin/Wei if you want to use True Solar Time Adjustment(and not everyone does by the way).

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    Re: Birth time and personal charateristics
    « Reply #6 on: December 15, 2017, 03:49:22 AM »
    @JiLex , maybe u tell little about yourself and  any big events happen to you.  so some of masters or members which can match your time of birth. good lucks

    one of arttofugue's note has time bazi notes which you can take a look at .. i found my match my times.

    i dont know where is the link anymore..


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