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  • Hi All,
    To some who have never heard of this before, well today is your lucky today will be revealing a lesser known knowledge or some may call "Trade Secret" to you.
    IMO all so called "trade secrets" all have basis in the fundamental books just lesser used or lesser known. Really have to study the books to get these knowledge.
    Out of the 60 JiaZi there are 8 particular days that have the highest chance of marriage problems.
    Now this is a lesser known technique because it may give readers who don't have fundamental knowledge the wrong idea. As this method has exceptions and only those with good understanding of the fundamentals will know if the chart has exception or worsens.
    In the old days these 8 days were viewed very badly if a woman was born at that day. Most of the time the parents will change their daughters bazi if they find out she was born in one of these days so she could be married off. That is why i thought a long time before deciding to reveal this technique. As this goes karma effecting fortune telling.
    These are one of those techniques that needs to be handled with care. For the reader and the one being read.
    You should watch how you say it and come across when you see this combination. Do not want to be ruining marriages or causing harm to anyone.
    This technique is advanced and can be considered harmful if not used right or not carefully interpreted.

    Without further ado.
    The 8 days are 乙巳、丁巳、辛亥、戊申、甲寅、丙午、戊午、壬子.
    These eight days also form a specific ShenSha called GuLuan Sha.

    These 8 days affect both men and women, and have tendency to create Widows(Ancient Explanation)
    From what i have observed most of the time this is not the case.
    Each one of these pillars have a tendency to cause certain different effects that could seem like they are 克 there spouses. Also there are specific saving factors that can appear in the chart that changes the interpretation to some extent.

    This is definitely not all set in stone as the rest of the make up of the chart also determines many factors in case by case difference as each pillar also has specific saving graces and difference in effect and interpretation. I will only go through one DayPillar with you guys today but, maybe i will consider later on when i have time to go through more and add more details.

    For example 辛亥, 辛 husband star is 丙 and to some extent 丁, 丙 is 絕 in 亥, 丁 is  in 胎。辛 for men uses 甲乙 as wife star, 甲 is 长生 in 亥, 乙 is in 死. In 12 life stages for this pillar both Husband stars for women, and Wife star for Men are all in weak positions. In the Marriage pillar. 寅 being 长生 pillar of husband star 丙 is also in 空亡.

    So for woman she is sitting ontop of 伤官HO, old verse for this day pillar is 金豬何必強猖狂 which is basically directed specifically at women with this pillar.
    Loosely translates to Why does a Gold Pig need to be so furious, but could also mean exposing. Also because husband star is in 绝 which is limbo. This is the stage where the element dwells before it is conceived. It is the limbo where the qi of the element is non-apparent. Which is why husband star sitting in this stage is considered very bad and why it is so hard to find a husband. As 丁  the is in 胎 stage it is more apparent and stronger then 丙. Which is why the prediction of mistress is made if other factors support.

    Woman born in this day pillar usually very beautiful and loves beauty, Peach Blossom very strong for this daypillar for both men and women.
    If HO is strong in the chart of woman with this day pillar  could end up being the mistress, or if even worst a prostitute.
    As strong HO naturally strikes weak DO pillar, usually have lower principles. As Principles is represented by DO.

    There are different levels/critierias of saving grace for the day pillar. Depending on how many criteria's the chart meets this day pillar can actually rise to quite a high level. Nevertheless the apparent affect will still be active, for example you could marry a rich husband, but your husband always goes out behind your back.
    Or you could get married but you have a vibrant social life and go to parties all the time and doesn't take a genius to figure out what could happen to a married woman if she goes out to parties all the time. Even if she were not tempted to cheat she could cause anger from her husband who would probably not approve of his wife going to parties all the time.
    Or you could end up being the mistress or the second wife of someone very powerful. Where you gain fame because of him.

    As this daypillar sit on top of HO can produce very creative/artistic/smart/intellectual person. Who could hold high position at work and be very busy at work. Maybe to the point where she does not have enough time for her husband or even have a husband. This all depends on the whole makeup and other interactions going on in the chart.

    The analysis of just this one daypillar can get much more in-depth and complicated as we have to look at the month this daypillar is born in the have even more accurate predictions and understanding.

    As first have to see which month this daypillar born in, as first criteria to analyzing this daypillar. For example if born in 巳 month husband star strength strengthens, but could also rise to challenge the wife, nevertheless as long as 寅 don't appear husband will stay faithful. Regardless if 寅 appear or not family will be wealthy. Wealth qi is strong and present. If 寅 appear happiness and faithfulness of both husband and self is questioned.

    Or 辛亥 born in 未 month, have to see 壬 in HS, without being clashed or combined, As in can not see 丁,戊 appearing then this chart able to have good marriage for women if 丁 戌 appear could end up being very loose principled women(prostitute/gold digger)。
    Also for men do not want to see 庚 appear as that will make him quite violent, and not have goo personality.
    As you can see 辛亥 daypillar almost every month have strong criteria's to meet in order to have good marriage.

    For men, wife star 甲 is weak in 长生 stage, and the 甲 hidden in 亥 is floating wood very weak. This usually signals a sick wife. Who is very weak physically.

    So as you all can see sometimes what is considered "trade secrets" are actually very advanced  techniques that needs to expanded with great knowledge of the fundamentals. What is considered secret is the knowledge of being able to expand the information given. As you can see just one DayPillar out of the 8 has numerous changes in criteria depending on the other factors of the bazi. As you can see that each month that 辛亥 daypillar is in has different criteria's. Although 辛亥 itself does contain the inherent affect of bad marriage, but without having understanding of the fundamentals, we can not make correct prediction by just seeing the DayPillar.
    As marriage problems can be numerous and affect can be strong or weak.
    So if we just study the quick method without breaking down the method we will never get correct predictions.

    « Last Edit: January 18, 2018, 05:11:05 PM by TenVirtues »

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  • Googled "孤鸾煞" and got many results: ??? ::)

    https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%AD%A4%E9%B8%BE%E7%85%9E
    https://www.jianshu.com/p/f54b9c5b12d1
    https://m.zhouyi.cc/bazi/sm/14648.html
    http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5f1957c101016a23.html
    https://www.lnka.tw/html/topic/12478.html

    ..... and many more!


    Checked my Mangpai Bazi book on shen shas, also got Lonely Bird star (孤鸾煞). Those who have the book below, refer to pg 66. Not a trade secret, trade secret will never be found so easily on internet or published in books.

    « Last Edit: January 18, 2018, 05:29:07 PM by ArtofFugue »
    By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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  • Show me which website, explain how to correctly interpret this shensha and meaning? Not just brief explanation. As that is what is truly a "trade secret"

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  • You mind is so narrow, but hey at least now your finally responding to me huh? ShenSha is just 1 of its interpretations, i only have 1 paragraph on that, and a whole 6-7 other paragraphs on other reasons unrelated to just a shensha prediction. That is where you will find your trade secret. Again my idea of a trade secret is something that can be traced back to the fundamentals. Not something made out of thin air.
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  • I don't think @ArtofFugue actually reads my post before he posts, i already wrote in first paragraph explaining what my definition of trade secret is, but i've also done it in multiple other posts, but he never seems to get it through his head.

    i don't know maybe our idea of trade secret is different. His trade secrets might not be based on the fundamentals and in that case i can show over a 1000 jianghu claimed "trade secrets" that have no basis at all. Just made up techniques from JiangHu fortune tellers, used to trick peoples money.

    They also claim to be masters and don't teach their secrets to anyone other then the ones who they deem worthy($$$)

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  • Hi @dingray
    Your welcome will try to explain more when I have time. I was responding to @ArtofFugue claim that I did not share any trade secrets in this post. As I wrote in the very first paragraph clearly what I meant. You can find basic knowledge about this shensha 8 pillars but no advanced interpretation and ways to apply. Which I shared a little bit with you all today. What else can be called "trade secret" if not advanced knowledge? Every car has a engine and 4 wheels but not all can move at the same speed. Why is that?

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  • Hello All

    Just to get back to the hard-earned topic that @TenVirtues is speaking

    My father is one of the combination, is a Jia Yin

    Living with him is difficult because he is dictatorial and try to make small thing become big

    My mother is a very easy going woman so my advice is marry easy going women

    My 2 girl firend coincidentally are Wu Shen (one of the combi), they are very close to me, what I say is that despite being very lenient and easy going sometimes they drive me nuts, like really nuts, with their sharp critical statements, one of them love many guys at the same time and I am one of them

    Do you wonder how I got so many people in my life, but i guess the closer the realtionship the worse it becomes
    Journey to my Roots.

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