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  • Divination Requests
    « on: March 02, 2018, 11:12:38 PM »
    Looking at this section of the forum there are many topics without reply.

    That may seem to be up to the people reading, however sometimes it can be also connected to the way the question /problem is presented.
    I will try to list some ways to make more practitioners able to make a reading(accurate or not) on a given question in here.

    • Make and post Hexagram made with the question(how to do that is explained below)
      Very often when reading divination practitioners would want the person asking to makes their own hexagram. That makes assigning lines later easier, also will guarantee they won't influence the question if they ask instead of the person(if they do, the person will move to Yong, the practitioner will move to Ti and the whole reading would change, more often then not).
      Some members that would otherwise try to read it may not do it if there isn't a hexagram already made. For that will explain how to make and post with the WWG app below.
    • Post the actual question.
      While carrier overall can be enough for bazi/zwds etc. WWG and some of the other divination systems are very specific, so the difference between "will i keep my current relationship" to "will i find new relationship" may change a lot in the way of reading depending on the person reading.
    • Some details about the current situation(connected to the point above).
      There can be a lot of difference between keeping your job and finding new one. For example nothing moving and not very strong nor weak lines could be great for keeping your job, while it could be awful for finding new one.
      Since we read influences where we start from can be important.


    While 2-3 depends on the person asking I can give some info how to post hexagram as in 1.

    So how to make hexagram and post it in the forum with the WWG app here:
    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=15200.0

    Download it from the end of first post then open it if you are on PC.
    If you aren't you can use the chinese calculator(http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=3080.0), most members here won't have problems figuring out hexagrams and date of asking from that even if they don't speak Chinese(can post explanation how someday, if someone needs).
    Figure out what exactly you want to ask.
    Think about your question and click generate.
    (Optional)Try to make sure what you are thinking is what the words used are presenting.
    Press Alt > File > Copy for Forums

    Then click in the post and press Ctrl+V.
    That should past the hexagram made in the calculator in a way that can be read.

    For example:
             ▅▅ ▅▅Wei-Earth(Parent)                            ▅▅ ▅▅Xu+Earth(Parent)
     Yong▅▅▅▅▅You-Metal(Sibling)   >>>>>             ▅▅ ▅▅Shen+Metal(Sibling)
             ▅▅▅▅▅Hai-Water(Child)                               ▅▅▅▅▅Wu+Fire(Officer)
             ▅▅ ▅▅Mao-Wood(Asset)                            ▅▅ ▅▅Chou-Earth(Parent)
           Ti▅▅ ▅▅Si-Fire(Officer)     >>>>>                ▅▅▅▅▅Mao-Wood(Asset)
             ▅▅ ▅▅Wei-Earth(Parent)    >>>>>             ▅▅▅▅▅Si-Fire(Officer)
    Day Pillar: 10.Gui/6.Si Snake ,Month Pillar: 1.Jia/3.Yin Tiger, Date:3/2/2018 3:53:19 PM
    45.Tsui Gathering Together Massing >>>> 54.Kuei Mei The Marrying Maiden
    Hidden Line: None

    (another way would be to make hexagram with coins or other sources - topics about that around the forum, then input it in one of the calculators copy and paste again).

    That should be helpful for more practitioners to be able to read the given question, in my humble opinion.
    Jst wanted to give some tips, since I do know we have a lot of members looking to test different styles and approaches, and we do have a lot of people asking questions, but for some reason it doesn't seem to connect very well, so hopefully this can be helpful in that.

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  • Re: Divination Requests
    « Reply #1 on: June 21, 2020, 05:13:51 PM »
    Some update here that won't require the PC software and is easier and faster to use.
    We can just open the site:
    https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/

    Think of a question(make sure that is what we want to know) then empty our mind and click "generate hexagram".

    Then can click Copy as URL link top right corner of the page and post it here with the question and some back story, so members can read it with their preferred method. : )

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  • Re: Divination Requests
    « Reply #2 on: June 24, 2020, 12:26:21 PM »
    @Gmuli Thank you for providing the resources for noobs like me.

    I've drawn up a hexagram using your example: https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/2,0,1,0,1,0,0,2,2,2020-06-24,12:23

    I'm keen to know if I will finally find a suitable job after all these months of trying

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  • Re: Divination Requests
    « Reply #3 on: June 24, 2020, 03:23:50 PM »
    @Gmuli Thank you for providing the resources for noobs like me.

    I've drawn up a hexagram using your example: https://www.bright-hall.net/wwg/2,0,1,0,1,0,0,2,2,2020-06-24,12:23

    I'm keen to know if I will finally find a suitable job after all these months of trying

    Hi.
    I think you can, if you put some more effort into it and have some luck, yet there are some problems to note as well, as some stuff may not work out great the way it is, currently. : )
    I will focus on the "suitable" part, as I assume the question would be about changing jobs and not finding one without having one.

    You line is Child. While that usually suggests that everything is fine, nothing to worry about and stuff like that, that would be valid if you already do have a job you like. If you don't it could be a problem, as the care free position the Child brings may not be approved by a high ranking people in a company or potential job.

    This also comes from the fact that the job line is very weak and potentially clashes your line.
    The clash suggests if there is a chance for a job, there may be a problem with people there taking you seriously, there are many resources in the net to help with that(how to present good job interview etc. - it is sad that that is what we have to use, but that is how it all seem to work in the present day world).

    It may also just mean that you aren't seriously enough decided you want to change job(assuming you currently have one).

    The profession line is also weak, suggesting there may not be a potential suitable job right now, you can change into as well.

    Yet there are good parts as well...
    There is some support form people around, some you may lose and some you may gain from other places. And other stuff, but in the way it is now, that is secondary as the main problem is that it won't work unless the relationship between the job line and your line is like this.

    In short. It seems possible to do, yet there also is the idea currently there either isn't a specific suitable job you are aiming seriously enough for, or you aren't searching for it hard enough.
    Considering that it seems unlikely it will happen by itself(Mao line very weak).

    Yet it isn't impossible, there are a lot of stuff on your side as well, just need to take it more seriously and it could work out(more so next month). Then there is the idea even if you do, in 2-3 months from now you may lose at again unless the point of view becomes more dedicated to that job.

    Just my way of reading it, there are other possible ways depending on the point of view you ask for and the current circumstances. But if you currently have a job and without knowing anything from the actual situation, I would read it like this I think. : )


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  • Re: Divination Requests
    « Reply #4 on: June 24, 2020, 06:15:43 PM »


    Hello @Gmuli sorry buddy. I should have been much clearer in my question. I am currently unemployed and I only used "suitable" because there were perhaps an opportunity but i felt it wasn't the right one.

    But based on your reading, it does seem like there are challenges with my job and profession line.

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  • Re: Divination Requests
    « Reply #5 on: June 24, 2020, 06:23:42 PM »


    Hello @Gmuli sorry buddy. I should have been much clearer in my question. I am currently unemployed and I only used "suitable" because there were perhaps an opportunity but i felt it wasn't the right one.

    But based on your reading, it does seem like there are challenges with my job and profession line.

    Its all good, its still the same reading, more or less, just much more focused on the interview skills then, yet with some details added about documentation. : )
    There are much we can do to help in preparing our CV, studies have shown if you have done volunteer work and that is reflected in your CV, for example, you are a lot more likely to get hired then people without any.

    But that will still be the focus - taking it seriously, presenting yourself as serious as possible(to move out of the Child line images) and try to get the documentation(CV in that case) in your favor, that would suggest to read some studies and guides on how to make a good CV, how to answer interview questions(at least standard ones) and stuff like that.

    Other then that its very similar reading, just each point would be somewhat stronger, as if you have a job "not taking it seriously enough" in finding a new one is not a big problem, if you haven't then it becomes more of a problem.


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  • Re: Divination Requests
    « Reply #6 on: June 24, 2020, 09:37:38 PM »
    Thanks @Gmuli long story short, I’m screwed  8)

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  • Re: Divination Requests
    « Reply #7 on: June 24, 2020, 09:55:17 PM »
    Thanks @Gmuli long story short, I’m screwed  8)

    Up to you. : )

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