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  • Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « on: March 22, 2018, 07:00:05 PM »
    Hi.
    This is the new topic for the Gmulis Bazi Calculator app.
    This is free bazi calculator app working with the Chinese Solar Calendar and implementing some of the more rarely used calculations in the forum(things like House of Conception Aura or Self Combining Pillars - more info about all that in the topics around the forum and in translations here).

    In the first post here we will have the link that will stay for any future updates(unless the hosting site changes something). If in the future you see a post mentioning what is updated without link, that is happening because the updates are always in the same link. Link is the same, the app behind it will be updated.

    Link for downloading right now is this(will post it again at the end of the post, so easier to find for new people without reading the whole post):
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/pf19lbbk0v92l9q/Gmulis%20BaZi%20Software.exe?dl=1


    So what is new?
    • Now we can click on any stem/branch and it will show additional info and its relation to the main 4 pillars. That includes the stems/branches from "Compare Date" or from Luck Pillars below.
    • Traditional vs Modern hidden heavenly stems are moved to the View menu now. Traditional heavenly stems are usually more then modern ones, they are used in classical texts and if you use concepts like Month Commander(DHHS called sometimes), that is basically based on that same arrangement.
    • The Char to Date function is optimized now. It will make less then 130 checkes for almost any date. The only situation when it will make as much checks as before is if you leave year and month pillars all to Any and you add invalid Day Pillar. In other cases, should be done, right away without much calculations now. Feel free to use it now, it is very well optimized.
    • Traveling horses can be calculated by Year or Day, that is in the menu as well.

    One new addition is that now the calculator will calculate the Sun's longitude based on the given time and date.

    Solar Terms(so the month in Chinese Solar Calendar as well) change based on the Sun's longitude. Basically every 15 degrees we have one more Solar Term and every 30 degrees we have a new Month.

    Now, while the main 4 pillars calculate in the old way, since I said before that this is the way I'm working with the months(they can't change in the middle of the day, since they represent mass consciousness), so I want it like that.
    However it seems fair to have some alternative for people that want to work with the exact time the Solar Term starts.

    Since all this have more then a few different ways of calculating, the time given here very often will be different then the time in observatories in HK and US.
    The reasons for that are a few.


    First you need to add or substract your time zone. So if you are looking at the time the Solar Term started in China, you need to fix the 8 hours, since you will be 8 hours away from the UTC(universal coordinated time).

    Even with that there will be a difference, sometimes 10-15 minutes, sometimes a lot more. The reason for that are a few as well. This algorithms used here(called VSOP87), are what NASA uses to predict eclipses. Considering that they are very, very accurate, but they aren't made specifically for the Sun, they can calculate any planets position from the center of the planet to the center of the other planet(or star/Sun in our case).

    This is one difference. The other part comes from the difference between Apparent Longitude(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_longitude) and True Longitude(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_longitude).
    Now, as I mentioned this algorithms are often used for predicting the exact time of an eclipse. For that we need the Apparent Longitude of the Planet,because we don't care where it actually is, we care how we will see it from the Earth.

    So the question becomes, are the Solar Terms based on the actual position of the Sun(true), or they are based on how the position looks from Earth(apparent)?

    Most observatories, calculators and websites would give the apparent one, since people are interested in what they see. However in the app we calculate the actual positions of the Sun and Earth(True Longitude).

    Considering that there will be a difference with other websites often.

    Is this more accurate?As I said, I'm not working with the idea that Solar Terms can change in the middle of the day, so I'm still going to use the main 4 pillars anyway.
    For people that want Solar Terms changing based on time, this is just an alternative, that mathematically speaking is cleaner. Is it better, will come to the question does the Solar Term change based on the position of the Sun(True Longitude), or based on our view to the Sun(Apparent Longitude).

    So how does it work. Just look at the field called Solar Term and below it will be the current Solar Term and month. So if you see in there Mao(Rabbit) as it is now that means we are still in Mao month. During the day the Solar Term changes you will see that that will change in different moment then the month pillar. It will basically change when the upper field(Suns Ecliptical Longitude)reaches 15 degrees.


    Link is here:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/pf19lbbk0v92l9q/Gmulis%20BaZi%20Software.exe?dl=1
    That's it, enjoy! : )

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #1 on: March 22, 2018, 08:44:50 PM »
    free software thanks

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    Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #2 on: March 22, 2018, 09:54:03 PM »
    Hi @Gmuli ,  Thanks for your great apps

    But i cannot get this link . it wont let go the site.

    do you know why??

    thanks

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #3 on: March 22, 2018, 10:22:16 PM »
    Maybe something is blocking the download?
    Try this:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/pf19lbbk0v92l9q/Gmulis%20BaZi%20Software.exe?dl=0
    It will ask for Login, you don't need one, just scroll down with mouse wheel and click "No thanks, continue to view".
    Then click Download.

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    Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #4 on: April 01, 2018, 07:59:49 AM »
    cool

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #5 on: April 24, 2018, 08:08:28 AM »
    thanks Gmuli.

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #6 on: April 27, 2018, 11:50:17 PM »
    Hi.
    Some more updates on the bazi app!

    • Added Lunar Calendar. Works for 1900- 2100.Can change it from the Menu > Calendar. Not a lot of time to test it properly, if someone sees bugs post here.
    • Fixed the flickering when form is redrawn.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/pf19lbbk0v92l9q/Gmulis%20BaZi%20Software.exe?dl=1

    In the future there may be poll if people want one more app for another five arts system. Need some feedback to have some idea if people are actually using the apps.
    Not yet, though.

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    Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #7 on: June 02, 2018, 03:39:22 AM »
    Why not release the source code?

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #8 on: June 02, 2018, 05:06:58 AM »
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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #9 on: June 02, 2018, 09:40:08 AM »
    Why not release the source code?

    Why do you need the source code?
    By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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    Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #10 on: June 02, 2018, 11:55:38 AM »
    Essentially, so that I can adapt portions of the code for other uses. So that I can use the gregorian calendar to chinese solar calendar portions of the codes to develop other applications. And also to strip away the graphics in the bz application, freeing up space for other things that I would like to code in myself.


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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #11 on: June 02, 2018, 06:16:33 PM »
    Essentially, so that I can adapt portions of the code for other uses. So that I can use the gregorian calendar to chinese solar calendar portions of the codes to develop other applications. And also to strip away the graphics in the bz application, freeing up space for other things that I would like to code in myself.


    Here you go:
    http://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=16972.0
    Feel free to ask if you have any questions.

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #12 on: July 07, 2018, 12:11:45 AM »
    Hi @Gmuli , I wanted to ask you about something in your software.

    Why is it that in the LPs, Hai is DO, Zi is 7k and Wu is F? I thought Hai has Ren hidden, so it's 7k? and in Zi, gui is hidden so it's DO?

    Btw my Day Master is Bing and I am a female. I attached the screenshot for your reference. Thank you.

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #13 on: July 07, 2018, 02:12:13 AM »
    Hi @Gmuli , I wanted to ask you about something in your software.

    Why is it that in the LPs, Hai is DO, Zi is 7k and Wu is F? I thought Hai has Ren hidden, so it's 7k? and in Zi, gui is hidden so it's DO?

    Btw my Day Master is Bing and I am a female. I attached the screenshot for your reference. Thank you.

    Hi.
    For Fire and Water branches the leading heavenly stem is opposite polarity of the branch itself. So we have 2 things here, we have Wu Yang Fire horse branch, andwe can see it as "made" from its heavenly stems of Ding and Ji with leading Ding(modern view - we would add Bing as well, if it was traditional) .


    So we have Wu Yang Fire Horse branch. But its leading heavenly stem is Yin Fire(Ding).
    Same for the others(Si,Zi,Hai).
    In the Luck Pillars, I didn't add the hidden stems, so it just shows the polarity of the whole branch and for fire branches that is opposite of the hidden stems polarity.

    While for Wood and Metal its same polarity, so Yin Wood Mao has leading Yin Wood Yi stem.
    So polarity of the branch and its strongest Qi in the hidden stems is opposite for Water and Fire.

    That may be connected to something sometimes called "heaven's net". The idea that as the movement starts from Wood reaches peak at Fire then start to contract getting to its minimum at Water, then Fire and Water are top and bottom, most expansion and most contraction in later heaven view.

    In that sense Wu is the peak of fire, but the fact it is peak of fire, means in it there is Yin quality, as it have to begin decreasing, much like at the Summer Solstice(in the middle of Wu month)  we will have both the longest day/most Sun, at the same time the beginning of the decrease of day length/Sun light.


    So in short - Wu Horse fire branch is Yang Polarity. And its essence/qi is based on Yin polarity, as first half of the month is the highest degree Yang will get, but at the same time the start of its decrease after the solstice.
    (same for noon at 12:00).

    As the Luck Pillars don't show the hidden stems we can't see that its leading stem would be Ding and that would be Rob Wealth. But if you view Wu in the branches above, it says it is Friend in there as well(below Wu itself, but above the hidden stems).
    « Last Edit: July 07, 2018, 02:16:00 AM by Gmuli »

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #14 on: July 07, 2018, 05:56:34 AM »
    I thought there were no roots in the 10yr LP?.  If true, wouldnt showing root in LP confuse more to the user?1
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    Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #14 on: July 07, 2018, 05:56:34 AM »
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