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Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2018, 11:34:21 PM »
thanks Gmuli

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #31 on: August 17, 2018, 02:49:50 AM »
    ty : )
    Just a very small addition, now if we set wallpaper.png file in the directory the exe is at, it will show that as background(can also be one solid color), also some small fixes.

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    Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #32 on: August 19, 2018, 07:24:06 PM »
    Hi.
    This is the new topic for the Gmulis Bazi Calculator app.
    This is free bazi calculator app working with the Chinese Solar Calendar and implementing some of the more rarely used calculations in the forum(things like House of Conception Aura or Self Combining Pillars - more info about all that in the topics around the forum and in translations here).

    In the first post here we will have the link that will stay for any future updates(unless the hosting site changes something). If in the future you see a post mentioning what is updated without link, that is happening because the updates are always in the same link. Link is the same, the app behind it will be updated.

    Link for downloading right now is this(will post it again at the end of the post, so easier to find for new people without reading the whole post):
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/pf19lbbk0v92l9q/Gmulis%20BaZi%20Software.exe?dl=1


    So what is new?
    • Now we can click on any stem/branch and it will show additional info and its relation to the main 4 pillars. That includes the stems/branches from "Compare Date" or from Luck Pillars below.
    • Traditional vs Modern hidden heavenly stems are moved to the View menu now. Traditional heavenly stems are usually more then modern ones, they are used in classical texts and if you use concepts like Month Commander(DHHS called sometimes), that is basically based on that same arrangement.
    • The Char to Date function is optimized now. It will make less then 130 checkes for almost any date. The only situation when it will make as much checks as before is if you leave year and month pillars all to Any and you add invalid Day Pillar. In other cases, should be done, right away without much calculations now. Feel free to use it now, it is very well optimized.
    • Traveling horses can be calculated by Year or Day, that is in the menu as well.

    One new addition is that now the calculator will calculate the Sun's longitude based on the given time and date.

    Solar Terms(so the month in Chinese Solar Calendar as well) change based on the Sun's longitude. Basically every 15 degrees we have one more Solar Term and every 30 degrees we have a new Month.

    Now, while the main 4 pillars calculate in the old way, since I said before that this is the way I'm working with the months(they can't change in the middle of the day, since they represent mass consciousness), so I want it like that.
    However it seems fair to have some alternative for people that want to work with the exact time the Solar Term starts.

    Since all this have more then a few different ways of calculating, the time given here very often will be different then the time in observatories in HK and US.
    The reasons for that are a few.


    First you need to add or substract your time zone. So if you are looking at the time the Solar Term started in China, you need to fix the 8 hours, since you will be 8 hours away from the UTC(universal coordinated time).

    Even with that there will be a difference, sometimes 10-15 minutes, sometimes a lot more. The reason for that are a few as well. This algorithms used here(called VSOP87), are what NASA uses to predict eclipses. Considering that they are very, very accurate, but they aren't made specifically for the Sun, they can calculate any planets position from the center of the planet to the center of the other planet(or star/Sun in our case).

    This is one difference. The other part comes from the difference between Apparent Longitude(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_longitude) and True Longitude(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_longitude).
    Now, as I mentioned this algorithms are often used for predicting the exact time of an eclipse. For that we need the Apparent Longitude of the Planet,because we don't care where it actually is, we care how we will see it from the Earth.

    So the question becomes, are the Solar Terms based on the actual position of the Sun(true), or they are based on how the position looks from Earth(apparent)?

    Most observatories, calculators and websites would give the apparent one, since people are interested in what they see. However in the app we calculate the actual positions of the Sun and Earth(True Longitude).

    Considering that there will be a difference with other websites often.

    Is this more accurate?As I said, I'm not working with the idea that Solar Terms can change in the middle of the day, so I'm still going to use the main 4 pillars anyway.
    For people that want Solar Terms changing based on time, this is just an alternative, that mathematically speaking is cleaner. Is it better, will come to the question does the Solar Term change based on the position of the Sun(True Longitude), or based on our view to the Sun(Apparent Longitude).

    So how does it work. Just look at the field called Solar Term and below it will be the current Solar Term and month. So if you see in there Mao(Rabbit) as it is now that means we are still in Mao month. During the day the Solar Term changes you will see that that will change in different moment then the month pillar. It will basically change when the upper field(Suns Ecliptical Longitude)reaches 15 degrees.


    Link is here:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/pf19lbbk0v92l9q/Gmulis%20BaZi%20Software.exe?dl=1
    That's it, enjoy! : )

    i always get danger warnings when downloadoing this,are you sure its vírus free?

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #33 on: August 19, 2018, 09:12:26 PM »
    I can't do much about that, these are safeguards that are easy to skip for big corporations, but difficult for people that are doing this for free on their own.
    The way it is made it only connects to the net if you click link that says "Online" and that will only open a webpage in your default browser.Only changes it makes to your hard disk are the .txt files it doesn't even create temporal files.

    I can't make it safer then that, but digital signature and stuff like that are expensive I think, not even sure I can get one without having a company.
    However there is a good news here. There are ways to be able to use and run app, without allowing it to change anything in your pc.


    I will explain 2 ways that can work for anyone to use any app that is otherwise worrisome(be that coz it doesn't have signature or other similar reasons).

    First way is apps like Sandboxie.
    Sandboxie is a sort of virtualization, it allows us to run apps that are run in their own space, without any way for them to interact with our system.
    Even more useful for stuff like Five Arts apps, as in there we can just see the result without saving any changes.

    The app in its free edition allows all that to be used, it just have messages that are removed in payed version. Also there are some advanced function in payed version, but all needed can be done in free one. Link is here:


    https://www.sandboxie.com/

    Now, lets say we are really, really worried about app. So worried that we don't want it to run on our machine at all(as there are viruses that can mess up hardware, so sometimes that can be reasonable concern).

    But we still want to see what it does.
    For that we need a lot more effort, however once we have it running we can run any app on it without worry.

    We need full virtualization this time, not only files in safe space, but actual virtual hardware. It is something like what sandboxie does, but this time a whole system is emulated and run in that space.

    For that we can use software like Oracles VirtualBox.
    This allows us to install virtual machine with its own virtual hardware. If there is virus, nothing can get to our system.

    Oracles VirtualBox is also fully free.

    https://www.virtualbox.org/

    Now, I'm not saying we should run apps we think may be dangerous. But in todays world there is so much level of protection,warnings and safeguards on any software uploaded in the net, that very often small developers(even more so in apps made for free without a company related to them) will have a lot of issues going over all of that.

    So in short - there isn't much I can do about that at this point. There are ways to be more comfortable using the apps, but it is free software after all and I can't afford the stuff it will need to get it looking fully like professional one.


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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #34 on: August 19, 2018, 09:21:37 PM »
    @Gmuli

    did you mean this certificate? It is possible for individual but not worth it ;D



    Taken from here: https://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=3244.0

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #35 on: August 19, 2018, 09:24:19 PM »
    Yea, stuff is made to squish the small developers... : ' (

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #36 on: August 19, 2018, 09:28:55 PM »
    Yea, stuff is made to squish the small developers... : ' (

    These key pairs are FREE if we self generated. But they sell them for triple digits USD. This is madness and outright crime.

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    Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #37 on: August 20, 2018, 09:03:18 AM »
    socrates:

    Any antivirus software will always issue a warning if you run a file with the .exe extension. But if you scan Gmuli's software with AVG (free antivirus), it will say it is safe. I have not had any problems with Gmuli's software. I have downloaded two - the Bazi calculator and the Wen Wang Gua Calculator.

    One who wishes to hack into your system will not identify himself. Gmuli is well identified here, and the Administrator has his identity info. So it should not be a cause for concern to download software from one who shares freely.




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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #38 on: August 20, 2018, 01:02:09 PM »
    Hey, I think Gmuli deserves a monument and not distrustful notes.
    I have been in Five Arts' communities 30+ years and I have rarely seen a person so dedicated to distribute real and preciouis knowledge.
    Though unlike him, I am convinced everything must be 1)earned by hard labour and commitment and 2)paid, even symbolically.
    If you give the hungry one a fish instead of a fishing rod, he will most probably not find it satisfactory (I mean,the fish. And the approach,too).
    Of course, a little common knowledge on IT protection will not harm anyone.

    socrates:

    Any antivirus software will always issue a warning if you run a file with the .exe extension. But if you scan Gmuli's software with AVG (free antivirus), it will say it is safe. I have not had any problems with Gmuli's software. I have downloaded two - the Bazi calculator and the Wen Wang Gua Calculator.

    One who wishes to hack into your system will not identify himself. Gmuli is well identified here, and the Administrator has his identity info. So it should not be a cause for concern to download software from one who shares freely.
    « Last Edit: August 20, 2018, 01:03:58 PM by ognyanv »

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #39 on: August 20, 2018, 05:05:51 PM »
    Thanks.
    If someone is really worried we can test how the app interacts(what changes it can make in the system etc.),but it should be the same as what is described above.

    Overall, the same rule applies as with any free software - if you don't feel comfortable for any reason, just don't use it. : )

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    Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #40 on: August 22, 2018, 06:23:18 AM »
    Thanks.
    If someone is really worried we can test how the app interacts(what changes it can make in the system etc.),but it should be the same as what is described above.

    Overall, the same rule applies as with any free software - if you don't feel comfortable for any reason, just don't use it. : )

    thanks for the reassurance
    this happens a lot these days,the ms said- gmuli is normally not recommended or something like that,but i had no problema so far

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #41 on: September 26, 2018, 08:43:51 PM »
    As the apps become more, it seems fair to have some bibliography/mention of sources.

    Will start with the BaZi app. In the future may move it to the app in Help>About.

    House of Conception Auro, House of Life, House of Body, House of Conception, Images to stems and branches:
    ArtofFugue topics in here(Five Arts Forums)

    Function:Stable/Unstable Pillars
     Jlim topic in here(Five Arts Forums)

    Function:Mount Commander, Traditional Hidden Stems,
    Source:duesouth translation of ZPZQPZ

    28 Lunar Mansions:
    http://anniepecheva.blogspot.com/2011/12/few-years-ago-i-bought-chinese-book-on.html
    (the calculation itself can be found in many places)

    Sun longitude and time of Solar Terms:
    http://neoprogrammics.com/vsop87/
    Along with some other websites I can't find currently.

    True Solar Time:

    This is implemented 1:1 from a web page in javascript that was part of a free book, I just rewrote it to VB. But I can't find it right now. Hopefully someday will come up again.

     The rest is general knowledge and can be found in multiple sources.Tell me if I missed something.


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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #42 on: November 02, 2018, 03:37:34 AM »
    Members have mentioned that the calculator is starting to get cluttered.
    So instead of making different views with different things showing, there are some new functions added.


    One is Year > Hour from left to right, as most mang pai translations follow this.

    The other is File > View > Designer.

    Designer is a mode of working of the app where you can move freely any element on it, including the date/hour selector.

    In that way if you don't want to see specific text you can just move it out of view. If oyu want other places of some of the controls that is easy to do as well.

    Example here of how it looks with branches moved on top of the extra info below(solid pillars etc), most of the controls dragged out of the screen, also one of the luck pillars pulled up for easier work with it.



    How to use:

    Go in View and click Designer.
    It gets a checked sign next to it meaning its active.
    Now every control can move around with drag and drop.
    Do all changes you want to do.
    Can move elements out of screen, set on top of each other or anything else you can think of.
    Some of them won't move alone, for example Year Stem image won't move by itself it will move with the Year Stem group - that is, so it doesn't become more messy then needed.
    As soon as you are done you go View>Designer again and when you click to disable it it will make a file called "options.txt" where all new controls and positions will be saved.

    That is helpful for 2 reasons.
    First you can always delete it to go back to the default way.
    Second it means everytime the app starts it will look in the way you made it.
    Right now resizing the window will work in a different way then usual, allowing to make the whole app more compact, but it isn't saved. As soon as designer is turned off it goes back to old mode of resizing.


    Enjoy and feel free to post if you have made some nicer designs. : )

    P.S. It isn't up yet, new version will be in the link in a few days so I can be sure it all works ok. Won't post another post, just check in 3-4 days should be there if all is fine.

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #43 on: July 14, 2019, 01:02:49 AM »
    That part(the designer) didn't actually make it to release, made a lot of other problems all around, so I scrapped it.

    However, as mention already the calculator has problems. Some of the concepts(mostly the Mang Pai ones) doesn't really work like that, I did add them back then with the idea its better then nothing, but now it seems nothing may have been the wiser approach. Why use something that doesn't fully work...

    So I will remove the whole app at some point, however since members asked(a while ago), about that there is a chance I will add the source code someday to the website. The part of the website about bazi is currently here:

    https://www.bright-hall.net

    And its heavily under development.
    If I do it will be the source of the last uploaded version and in another part of the site of course, not currently made.

    Anyway, no rush, I don't plan to delete it right away but in the coming days/weeks if you see the link is gone, its not a mistake, just seems it will bring more problems then actual help for people still learning and people that are used to the stuff there, won't need it calculated not fully right, either.

    There is bazi calc on the site, though, much more oriented to symbolic stars and manually selecting stems and branches. Can access it from the menu.

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  • Re: Gmulis Bazi Calculator
    « Reply #44 on: July 14, 2019, 04:09:27 AM »
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    Last post February 01, 2020, 03:22:14 PM
    by j27945

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