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  • I am a novice at this, so please forgive me for asking what might be a silly question to some...

    I read sources saying that for most charts, to see what 格 or structure the chart falls into, look at the month pillar and also what’s on the heavenly stem. Because very few charts are the special structure type. But why when I use the Joey Yap profiler, it will usually tell me the chart is some other structure than the one I see by looking at the month pillar? I can see that his calculator makes calculations based on its own algorithms.. obviously I am not knowledgeable enough to know how the calculator arrives at its conclusions. Seems very complicated. Do you think the Joey Yap calculator is more accurate?

    Any opinions expressed are just mine. I am a keen student of Bazi and not a professional...

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  • I am a novice at this, so please forgive me for asking what might be a silly question to some...

    I read sources saying that for most charts, to see what 格 or structure the chart falls into, look at the month pillar and also what’s on the heavenly stem. Because very few charts are the special structure type. But why when I use the Joey Yap profiler, it will usually tell me the chart is some other structure than the one I see by looking at the month pillar? I can see that his calculator makes calculations based on its own algorithms.. obviously I am not knowledgeable enough to know how the calculator arrives at its conclusions. Seems very complicated. Do you think the Joey Yap calculator is more accurate?

    If I remember correctly and nothing has changed last few years, the calculator there was giving structure based on the 10 god of the main hidden stem in the month branch, even if it doesn't protrude to the stems.

    In BaZi there are many different styles and schools of reading, so almost any approach would be accurate for someone and not so accurate for others...

    And in my humble opinion all will have some degree of validity(or at least most of them).
    As the hidden stems in month branch in DTS(classic text) were considered "real gods" any of them in most situations will have a impact on that persons life. So taking the main hidden stem as the structure, seems reasonable.

    There are other ways. For example some styles would need it to be protruding(to show up in stems), to be considered. Others will use whatever is protruding no matter if it is from Month branch or not.

    Overall with practice you should start to see that all have some reason and are valid for specific thing(for example - protruding hidden stem from the year - something strong in the outsite world and their childhood, that is influencing the individual, while protruding from month - something strong from nearby and their family that is doing it). What you would want to use would be based on what you try to accomplish in specific reading reading.

    In short - I don't think there is universally accurate approach. Try what seems to resonate with you and keep whatever works. At the end of the day, there are styles that doesn't use structure at all after all...
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  • I am a novice at this, so please forgive me for asking what might be a silly question to some...

    I read sources saying that for most charts, to see what 格 or structure the chart falls into, look at the month pillar and also what’s on the heavenly stem. Because very few charts are the special structure type. But why when I use the Joey Yap profiler, it will usually tell me the chart is some other structure than the one I see by looking at the month pillar? I can see that his calculator makes calculations based on its own algorithms.. obviously I am not knowledgeable enough to know how the calculator arrives at its conclusions. Seems very complicated. Do you think the Joey Yap calculator is more accurate?

    Please plot manually. You will uncover many deviation from calculator to calculator.
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