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  • Mistakes and discrepancies in English ZWDS books
    « on: April 03, 2018, 11:34:11 AM »
    [First posted in 2014 by me, in WOFS forum. Reposted here]

    Hi, recently I bought 2 English books of Zi Wei Dou Shu (Purple Star Astrology) and I happened to notice some mistakes in plotting charts in them. So I'm posting here to alert readers to double-check with Chinese books when plotting charts from English books as there may be errors in translation.


    1) The Empyrean Matrix, A Guide to Purple Star Astrology, 1st Edition, Y.M. Lim

    Contents Error: Page 24, Table 3.5 “Zi Wei Location Table”;- (i) Lunar Birth Date 21, 5th Earth column, should be Xu. (ii) Lunar Birth Date 30, 6th Fire column, should be Wu.

    Contents Error: Page 30, Table 3.7 “Stars in Correspondence to Lunar Birth Year Stem”;- Star Tian Kui plotting seems entirely wrong OR is it a different school of Zi Wei Dou Shu? My Chinese Zi Wei book states it should be…
    Jia = Wei
    Yi = Shen
    Bing = You
    Ding = Hai
    Wu = Chou
    Ji = Zi
    Geng = Chou
    Xin = Yin
    Ren = Mao
    Gui = Si

    Contents Error: Page 30, Table 3.7 “Stars in Correspondence to Lunar Birth Year Stem”;- Star Tian Yue plotting seems entirely wrong OR is it a different school of Zi Wei Dou Shu? My Chinese Zi Wei book states it should be…
    Jia = Chou
    Yi = Zi
    Bing = Hai
    Ding = You
    Wu = Wei
    Ji = Shen
    Geng = Wei
    Xin = Wu
    Ren = Si
    Gui = Mao

    *The rest of the stars in Table 3.7 matched those in my Chinese book, only Tian Kui and Tian Yue have discrepancies. I know Transforming Stars have some discrepancies from school of ZWDS to another school but I'm not sure if Tian Kui and Tian Yue have such discrepancies. I’ve only checked until page 30 for contents errors as I rely more on Chinese ZWDS books for plotting stars. For English books like this, I use them for stars’ profiles/interpretations reference only.

    Missing words: Page 104, point #8, “Xi Shen: …. It however does not favour entering Health palace, which may bring about prolonged sickness.” I happened to see this glaring omission of words.

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    2) Flying Star Zi Wei Dou Shu, Practitioner's handbook, Ng Choon Phong & Leonard Tham

    After spotting the errors in Empyrean Matrix, I straight away went to the Emperor star allocation table of this book to spot for errors.

    Contents error, page 69, Table G "Location of Zi Wei Star";- (i) Lunar Birth Date 21st, 5th Earth column, should be Xu. (ii) Lunar Birth Date 30th, 6th Fire column, should be Wu.

    Exact two errors as the Empyrean Matrix book for Emperor star allocation table, I didn't bother to check the rest of this book as I don't rely on it for plotting Zi Wei Dou Shu star charts.

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    3) Emperor Stargate, Unlocking the Secrets to Your Destiny, Cheung Kwong Yin and Alexandra Harteam

    Though I didn't recently bought this book, I had spotted discrepancies in the CD-rom (which plots Zi Wei Dou Shu star charts for the reader) when I was using it in the early 2000s. I didn't post in the forums because I thought they were isolated incidents. But after spotting errors in 2 other English books, I decided to post to alert readers and learners.

    I didn't have the CD-rom with me at the moment, but I remember there were discrepancies in plotting of star brightness and some Jia category stars from my Chinese Zi Wei book.

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    4) The Empyrean Matrix, A Guide to Purple Star Astrology, 1st Edition, Y.M. Lim

    Factual error, pg 121, 1st paragraph, 2nd sentence; "For Geng and Yi birth stem natives, there will be either Ju Men Hua Ji or Tai Yang Hua Ji..." It should be Ding stem to have Ju Men Hua Ji and Jia stem to have Tai Yang Hua Ji.

    Copy & paste error, pg 128, 1st paragraph, 1st sentence; the Chinese name of the formation is wrong as it is the Chinese name for an entirely different formation on pg 126.

    Factual error, pg 150, 1st paragraph, 2nd sentence; “This formation happens at Zi or Si Life palace…” It should be at Hai or Si Life palace. Diagram 6.56 (below the paragraph) is also wrong, Di Kong and Di Jie will never be at such positions.

    Factual error, pg 148, point #7; Stated "Tian Tong Hua Ke". It should be Tai Yin Hua Ke for Geng birth stem.

    Copy & paste error, pg 154, title of diagram 6.61; Stated "Xing Qiu Jia Yin" as it is the Chinese Han Yu Pin Ying for the previous formation. It should be Lu Shang Mai Shi.

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    5) Another mistake just spotted in Empyrean Matrix book by coincidence:

    Factual error, pg 161, Geng stem's Hua Ke should be attached to Tai Yin, instead of Tian Fu.

    Pg 30 has the correct info (Tai Yin Hua Ke) for Geng stem, don't know why the author changed it to Tian Fu Hua Ke at pg 161.

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    Overall, I would like to caution readers to double check when they plot star charts. Normally when I plot charts, first I check with my Chinese book "Zi Wei Chu Bi", second a trusted Chinese ZWDS plotting chart website and third another Chinese ZWDS book. And if you see Tian Xiang Hua Ji in some of your charts, it's an entirely different school of ZWDS, find another book/website.

    Any suggestions/views/errors you would like to share of these 3 English books or other books?
    By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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  • Re: Mistakes and discrepancies in English ZWDS books
    « Reply #3 on: January 15, 2019, 08:00:32 AM »
    Hi all,

    I noticed there are some different method to plot Tian Kui and Tian Yue star. For example, based on here Tian Kui and Tian Yue for Xin stem located at Hai & You location, but in YM Lim book it's located at Yin & Wu, and in another source it's located at Wu & Yin. It's confusing. @ArtofFugue In your opinion from your knowledge & experience, what's the most common method to plot the Tian Kui and Tian Yue star?

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