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  • (Released in Feb 2017. Available at Wanli bookshop in Apr 2017.)
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    First of all, this book’s price is same as that $80 ZWDS english book which I reviewed in 2014 but its content is 4 times of that diluted english book!

    This book is a testament that beginner books do not have to be brief and vague. At over 1300 pages, it’s like packed with juicy info like Jxxy Yxp’s QMDJ Compendium book but at a fraction of its price and thickness. Suitable for total newbies who have just entered the vast world of ZWDS but don’t know which book to buy and don’t know what’s San He and Si Hua.

    It is therefore no exaggeration to declare that this is the ‘Ultimate ZWDS Beginner book’ to buy, though a newbie/beginner who is used to the vagueness of diluted english CM books will be overwhelmed at first by the numerous topics and sub-topics it covers.

    This book is in mainly 2 parts. First part is San He ZWDS, 2nd part is Si Hua ZWDS which is mainly the ‘144 Theorems & 576 Trends’.

    The San He part is about stars’ meanings in the palaces but surprisingly disappointing, it only covers up till #66 of my full list of stars. Since the author have already done so much, might as well cover up till #121. Really makes no difference to add those 60+ stars since the book is already thick like telephone book. What I dislike is the writing style is like Fayun which groups the stars according to birth Year stem. The author must be heavily influenced by Fayun.

    The Si Hua part is basically what Zhouyu have translated and shared in this forum – ie; ‘144 Theorems & 576 Trends’.

    The huge Annex contains alot of miscellaneous info like various ZWDS sects, treatment of twins charts, Si Hua table of different sects, similar info which I have already shared in this forum. I’ve added links in the words, just click on to view my threads. The Annex also contains other info like Mei Hua and caesarean birth by birth Year stem [by Year stem is not enough, and San Qi is not the only chart to aim for].

    For people who are already skilled in ZWDS, you’ll find the book’s contents to be “standard stuffs” and you would already have them in the books and course notes you’ve been collecting over the years. Nothing new for offer here.

    Overall, this book is like those 7-CD compilation box of Faye Wong for newly-joined fans who have missed her old CDs.
    « Last Edit: April 08, 2018, 11:36:32 PM by ArtofFugue »
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  • @ArtofFugue too many things I want to say. First thing first. If someone able to read english and mandarin, like @wellhandy , do you thing this book is better than YM Lim's trilogy - Empyrean Matrix, Prosperity Sigma, Hidden Laws? Put it bluntly will this book nuke YM LIM books out of Indian Ocean?

    Let's see how honest is this @ArtofFugue

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  • I was the one posted this book in March 28, 2018 here. Today April 8 @ArtofFugue posted his review. Seriously do you believe @ArtofFugue can finish this 1300+ pages tome under 2 weeks and understood the content inside?

    I think it takes years to understand this book content. @ArtofFugue gotcha!

    #fakenews

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  • @ArtofFugue bump for lol

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    @coco,  sorry i still rather believe @ArtofFugue , i still believe his knowledge . he has great experience with zwds .  some people can go through the book in one day if only basic .   i believe art pro to master level. 

    coco.. i hope dont  try cause trouble with artofgue. he has the right to review the book..


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  • @coco,  sorry i still rather believe @ArtofFugue , i still believe his knowledge . he has great experience with zwds .  some people can go through the book in one day if only basic .   i believe art pro to master level. 

    coco.. i hope dont  try cause trouble with artofgue. he has the right to review the book..

    hihihi you are good but insincere friend. this is a study book not some harry potter fantasy novels. even Im doubtful you can finish 1300+ pages harry potter novel under 2 weeks

    Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone   223 pages
    Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets   251 pages
    Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban   317 pages
    Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire   636 pages

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    @coco. u r talking about apple and orange...

    novels.. if u read novel first times take you one month then read second times it will take 3 weeks.  if read again it will take 2 weeks.. then if keep reread again same novel again.. it u just glance through it.. i hope u get my points.

    i dont come to point u r wrong..it is not big fuss.. why are u make a big deal..


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  • @coco. u r talking about apple and orange...

    novels.. if u read novel first times take you one month then read second times it will take 3 weeks.  if read again it will take 2 weeks.. then if keep reread again same novel again.. it u just glance through it.. i hope u get my points.

    i dont come to point u r wrong..it is not big fuss.. why are u make a big deal..

    reading a novel is a piece of cake. just words. the story line more or less expected. reading this zwds book you need WORKOUT you need plot the chart do the flying. check stars refer to definition again again. it's IMPOSSIBLE he did these under 14 days. yet he has the audacity label this book beginner, nothing new to offer

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    @coco..
    so what is point here... ?? so if you can do it 2 weeks, cos u cannot do it in 2 weeks that mean u are right.. he is wrong?? so are u say that u r smarter then him..

    i dont understand why are u judging him because he can do it in 2 weeks. u cant believe him ..

    just let be .. no big deal in 2 weeks or 3 weeks.. his level and his understanding.. are you him.. are his level..
    it will properlly take me years to read it.. it might take u 2 months.. it is no big deal

    so what if master tony lee read it in one week too..?? so are u saying him he is lier too..?? @coco.

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  • my issue is he reviewed books that he never actually read, understand and use

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    @coco.

    i dont know what to say anymore.. just let be coco.. dont holding something small thing and make it big. are u the author of this book?? then i would understand why but i dont see why ????

    i rather u give the answer for the quiz 4.. because it seems like no body answering that quizz..

    i hope u read that book and translated for us.. i will more appreciated and thanks


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    i dont know what to say anymore.. just let be coco.. dont holding something small thing and make it big. are u the author of this book?? then i would understand why but i dont see why ????

    i rather u give the answer for the quiz 4.. because it seems like no body answering that quizz..

    i hope u read that book and translated for us.. i will more appreciated and thanks


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    @coco

    lol thanks.. i hope u set a time to reveal the answers.. i cannot see a master will take there precious time to prove that quiz for you because it has been a week already.

    but i do hope there will be a master will take a quizz 4. but i doubt it. 

    anyway thanks for quiz.. cant wait for the answer.
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    lol thanks.. i hope u set a time to reveal the answers.. i cannot see a master will take there precious time to prove that quiz for you because it has been a week already.

    but i do hope there will be a master will take a quizz 4. but i doubt it. 

    anyway thanks for quiz.. cant wait for the answer.

    hihihi as I distracted by art review i totally forgot posting my guessing #5. I blame art for the delay

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