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  • 'Demonic possession is real and victims seeking exorcism should not be ignored': Prominent psychiatrist on the world beyond
    Rachel Ray,The Telegraph - 4 hours ago
    https://sg.yahoo.com/news/apos-demonic-possession-real-victims-081531521.html


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    It is a phenomenon that is on the rise throughout the world: The number of cases of demonic possession - and demands for priests to carry out exorcisms - is, according to multiple sources, soaring.

    Medical science remains sceptical. However, a Princeton-and-Yale-educated mainstream psychiatrist believes demonic possession is indeed very real - and claims that the majority of Americans agree with him.

    With 25 years experience in a private psychiatric practice and as a professor at New York Medical College and Columbia University, Dr Richard Gallagher has a rare vantage point to observe human behavior. And then there is the inhuman. 

    He is also a sought-after psychiatrist for discernment, the initial step in determining the need for exorcism. Dr Gallagher has evaluated hundreds of cases of possible possession and, in a wide-ranging and rare interview with the Telegraph, explains why he believes the phenomenon is genuine.

    In April, at a Vatican training course for exorcist priests, participants were told that demand for exorcism is booming as a result of a decline in Christian faith and the internet providing easy access to black magic, the occult and Satanism.

    "They’re very, very smart. The intelligence level of a fallen angel, which is what I call them, is far superior to human beings" Dr Gallagher on demons

    Pope Francis has repeatedly reminded his followers that Satan is "a real being, roaming the Earth to devour souls like a lion". In April, he wrote: “Hence, we should not think of the Devil as a myth, a representation, a symbol, a figure of speech or an idea. This mistake would lead us to let down our guard, to grow careless and end up more vulnerable.” He observed that life can be “a constant struggle against the devil, the prince of evil”.

    Last year, speaking to priests attending a Vatican course on confession, the Pope said confessors “should not hesitate” to refer penitents who are suffering from “genuine spiritual disturbances” to exorcists. Describing the Rite of Exorcism as a “delicate and necessary ministry”, the Pope admonished that exorcist priests must be selected with “great care and great prudence.”

    In the US, the number of priest exorcists has increased from twelve to fifty over the past decade. While demand for exorcism continues to surge, Dr Gallagher’s medical assessment of whether a person is mentally ill or possessed by demons will determine whether some exorcisms are conducted. 

    He is not the only American psychiatrist who evaluates for possession - there are many others who consult on discernment. But Dr Gallagher is one of the few who is willing to talk about it. He has also written a forthcoming book on the subject, being published by Harper Collins, called Demonic Foes, A Psychiatrist Investigates Demonic Possession in the Modern United States. 

    “There are many other psychiatrists and mental health care professionals who do what I do - perhaps not to the scope that I do - who seem hesitant to speak out," he explained. "That’s what gives my work some singularity. That I have had so much experience and that I am willing to speak out. I feel an obligation to speak out. I think that I should.”

    Of the cases referred to him for possible possession, he noted that they are people who “suffer tremendously”.

    “There is very strict criteria for determining the person’s problem. I am not just intuiting. I’m dealing with it from a very scientific point of view,” he said.

    Speaking to the Telegraph at his office in Westchester County New York, Dr Gallagher said that while possession is very rare, in his medical opinion, it is real. “There are cases of spirit possession in pretty much every culture,” he said. He has evaluated cases referred to him by priests, rabbis, Christian ministers and representatives of other spiritual traditions.

    Dr Gallagher does not view himself as being outside the American mainstream in his beliefs about the existence of demons. Noting that the United States is a more religious country “than somewhat secular countries in Europe”, he cited poll numbers indicating that about 70 to 75 per cent of Americans believe in the Devil and at least half of those believe that demons have the ability to affect human beings, possessed or otherwise.

    “Then you can go to some countries like Madagascar where about 100 per cent of the population believes in spirit possession," he said. "So it varies a lot from country to country. Haiti is another country that believes a lot in demons and spirit possession. It depends on what subculture you’re addressing. Some secular subcultures on the east coast and the west coast of the United States are very skeptical but the majority of Americans are not only open to these ideas but believe them. So I don’t feel that I’m out of the mainstream.”

    At one time, Dr Gallagher, a board certified psychiatrist with a primary focus on individual psychotherapy and psycho pharmacology, was also doubtful. Although a practicing Catholic, he had never volunteered to evaluate people for possession. But early in his medical career two prominent exorcists, one of whom helped found the International Association of Exorcists, referred cases to him that were so dramatic, he concluded that possession exists. One such flamboyant and dramatic case was that of “Julia".

    Dr Gallagher believes that demons have been observing human beings since the beginning of time. "They’re very, very smart. The intelligence level of a fallen angel, which is what I call them, is far superior to human beings. Which is why they denigrate human beings. They sometimes call us ‘monkeys’," he said.

    Dr Gallagher made it clear that he has discerned possession only in cases where it was already suspected. “The clergy of many different faiths who have sent people to me sense that something is happening that is of the world beyond.” These victims, he said, should not be left to suffer because of the scepticism of conventional medical opinion.
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  • My personal opinion:

    Alot of people are denial of the unseen (spiritual world), they rely too much on science which can sadly only explain 4% of our universe.

    Besides ghosts, there are other unseen entities like genies, animal spirits, minor deities living together with us in this mortal world. Just because we can't see them, we should not assume they do not exist. Just like you're not able to see your brain but you know it exists.
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  •  :) it is great finally i found someone that not denial about the " un seen existences / tribhuwana = lower , middle, top " which making this world crowd like now , bad people became leaders good people been punished and accused , right became wrong and wrong became right and men without good foundation teaching our children and society , religions only make people drunk in their imagination without essence, beast heart wearing crowns

    God bless you
    Om Namo Buddha Ya
    Santi santi santi

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  • :) it is great finally i found someone that not denial about the " un seen existences / tribhuwana = lower , middle, top " which making this world crowd like now , bad people became leaders good people been punished and accused , right became wrong and wrong became right and men without good foundation teaching our children and society , religions only make people drunk in their imagination without essence, beast heart wearing crowns

    God bless you
    Om Namo Buddha Ya
    Santi santi santi

    Thank you. :)
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  • 7 Ways to Fend Off the Devil!
    « Reply #4 on: October 08, 2019, 07:53:54 AM »
    7 Ways to Fend Off the Devil, From an Experienced Exorcist
    Everything you need to know to protect yourself from demonic attack
    By Wesley Baines
    Source: https://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/catholic/7-ways-to-fend-off-the-devil-from-an-experienced-exorcist.aspx

    *Extract of main points (summary) here by ArtofFugue, for details refer to original article.


    1) Live a Moral Life
    Unsurprisingly, the foundation of fending off the Devil begins with making moral choices.
    What do we mean by moral? We mean scriptural morality that lies in loving God, loving one another, and working hard to cultivate the Fruits of the Spirit, which are: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. This is what creates a moral life.

    According to Fr. Fortea, your denomination doesn’t matter. You don’t have to be Roman Catholic. What truly matters is that you make a good-faith attempt to act in ways which are objectively, scripturally good.

    This creates what Fr. Fortea calls “a good spiritual life.”

    2) Go to [religious place for worship]
    "....because it helps you to spiritually grow over time, and gives you the support you need to maintain those good [moral] choices we spoke of in the previous step.

    3) Pray
    Fr. Fortea says that “When tempted, prayer is our greatest weapon, a weapon as powerful as the greatest army or wealth. The demons know the power of prayer and fear it.”

    4) Use Holy Objects
    Fr. Fortea says that “A crucifix, even if it has not been blessed, is particularly powerful. It torments the demons because it reminds them of their defeat by Jesus’ death on the Cross.” He says the same of religious images and relics.

    5) Embrace Humility
    If there is anything that is the polar opposite of the Devil, it is humility. Even exorcists, in their bid to rid people of demonic spirits, must watch for signs of pride within themselves—a lack of humility can open you up to demonic attack like nothing else. Satan’s chief sin, it seems, was pride. He thought himself greater than God, more worthy to rule. And so it is something he is intimately familiar with, and is uniquely capable of working through.

    6) Invoke the Authority of Christ
    Jesus Christ was the first exorcist, and He later gave all Christians the power and authority to repel demons. Because of that, His power flows down through the generations, and can be invoked at any time by you.

    7) Don’t be a Hostage to the Devil
    Cultivate it by living a moral life, being humble and you’ll be safe from any demonic attack.

    *Seek a qualified exorcist if none of these forms of protection avail you, you may have an especially powerful demon on your hands. For this, you’ll need an expert—someone who has spent a lifetime familiarizing themselves with the world of the demonic, as well as the Word of God.


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    Don't argue with the Devil - he's much more intelligent than us, says Pope Francis.
    (Don't argue with trolls too! ;) )

    Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/13/dont-argue-devil-much-intelligent-us-says-pope-francis/

    The Devil is more intelligent than mere mortals and should never be argued with, Pope Francis has warned.

    Satan is not a metaphor or a nebulous concept but a real person armed with dark powers, the Pope said in forthright remarks made during a television interview.

    “He is evil, he’s not like mist. He’s not a diffuse thing, he is a person. I’m convinced that one must never converse with Satan - if you do that, you’ll be lost,” he told TV2000, a Catholic channel, gesticulating with his hands to emphasise his point.

    “He’s more intelligent than us, and he’ll turn you upside down, he’ll make your head spin.

    “He always pretends to be polite - he does it with priests, with bishops. That’s how he enters your mind. But it ends badly if you don’t realise what is happening in time. (We should tell him) go away!” he said.
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  • These are the stories about demonic possession that were told to me by my grand mother:
    1. You owe a debt to someone in the previous life. He/ she/it possesses you as a repayment
    2. You have disturbed a ghost for good or bad intent. he/she/it now seeks revenge
    3. You make a deal with ghost but you don't live up to your end of the bargain.
    4. Someone uses black magic to conjure a ghost to possess you for revenge, love or money
    5. You are able to communicate with ghosts. They possess and use your body and mind to resolve issues.
    6. You were born with a very weak spirit that can be easily invaded by ghosts
         

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  • LOL Pope Francis

    How a religion leader and scholar " scared " and make his followers " inferior " by saying that Devil is intelligent lol

    Mankind more intelligent as they COULD connect with UNIVERSE by only small pieces light in heart ( Buddhi ) where its a modem with the Creator , when someone seek refugee into God's hand along with sincerity and good heart to universe is there any thing could harm them ?

    Must check Pope Francis graduated from which theology university lol
    Caused how he could forgot this words " OBEDIENT TO YOUR LORD / GOD THAN UNIVERSE OBEY YOU ", doesnt it mean devil is in Universe ? lol
    In Buddhism or ancient terms " COSMIC MASTER / JIVAN MUKTI / GNOSIS in Catholic like pope / SUFI HAQQIQA in Moslem teaching "

    IF got black magic until unable to be recovered / taken death , there are many things behind it :
    1. The healer not capable enough
    2. The black magic is all out one ( strong one )
    3. The person got it is not cooperate to heal him / her self
    4. Dharma of the person is not enough

    Exorcist is different with black magic... exorcist is MUST LIGHTER than black magic DUE the remote is in the devil self , NOT by mankind. Mankind more cruel than devil, devil ONLY GIVEN AN IDEA but mankind WORKING THE IDEA BY THEIR FUELS ( LUSTS, DESIRE, GREED, ARROGANCE, HATRED, TAKEN LIFE OF PEOPLE, GOSSIPING, ACCUSATION , ETC )

    There is also someone could not be heal after got black magic is caused PENALTY OF KARMIC WHICH IS EXCEED OF LIMIT

    Everything has law and rules, each realms worlds has it too , trust me lower worlds life is like barbaric , scary, a jungle, whoever have strong power will win doesnt matter its bad, reflected in the world we are living now lol




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  • Forgot to add

    Pope Francis spiritual experiences has to be questioned caused he mentioned SATAN with DEVIL like the same entity

    ITS NOT

    Satan is our EGO , CANT BE SEEN
    Devil is creature , oldest one,  rare people can seen it except the one fated by God to seen it
    Demon is lower creatures than Devil ( the capability )



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  • DEVIL ADVOCATE :

    WHY THERE WAS SOOOO MUCH HATRED AND CHAOS IN FENDING MACHINE !

    1. YOU CAN NOT FEND ANGER AND FRUSTRATION HOPING THAT IT WOULD CALM ITSELF ! YOU HAVE TO CHANEL IT INTO SOMETHING POSITIVE BY OPENING A DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE PARTY RELATED FREELY !

    2. THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF POSSIBILITIES TO HAVE A PEACE TALKS , RELATIONSHIP,EVEN MARRIAGES BETWEEN CULTURE NATION OR RAS AS THEY LOVE BUT FENDING MACHINE KEEP PRESSING YOU TO CHOSE LIFE BY ANGER AND PICKY NEED!

    3. FENDING MACHINE KEEP YOUR GOAL YOUR WISH YOUR DREAMS OPEN TO PUBLIC WHICH ARE NO MORE PRIVACY EVEN TO VIP PEOPLE WHICH IN EFFECT EVEN WORSE TO COMMON PEOPLE!

    4. FAILED RELATIONSHIP FRUSTRATE YOU MORE !

    THANK YOU.

    THATS WHY LITTLE WATER IS BETTER THAN TSUNAMI!





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  • These are the stories about demonic possession that were told to me by my grand mother:
    1. You owe a debt to someone in the previous life. He/ she/it possesses you as a repayment
    2. You have disturbed a ghost for good or bad intent. he/she/it now seeks revenge
    3. You make a deal with ghost but you don't live up to your end of the bargain.
    4. Someone uses black magic to conjure a ghost to possess you for revenge, love or money
    5. You are able to communicate with ghosts. They possess and use your body and mind to resolve issues.
    6. You were born with a very weak spirit that can be easily invaded by ghosts
         

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