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  • ZWDS Natal Chart and Time of Birth Issue
    « on: August 04, 2018, 02:34:35 AM »
    Hi guys,

    I am just new learning about ZWDS and interested in it, but sadly I am in dillema because some sites post my ZWDS to the next day and some does not, because of my birth time.

    I have tried fate windada website, destinyandluck, freehoro, etc.

    So my birth date and time is: February 8th, 1993 at 11:08 PM (23:08 hours) at Bandung, West Java, Indonesia GMT+7. I am a Female btw. I don't know if the rat hours meaning the next day will be my ZWDS chart or not.

    Well, I am looking forward for guidance from all masters in this forums. Thanks before for replying and enlightening me with the answer  :).

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  • Re: ZWDS Natal Chart and Time of Birth Issue
    « Reply #1 on: August 04, 2018, 12:22:46 PM »
    Even till date there's debate on rat hour in zwds. It is quite similar to debate on whether to time adjust to solar or not.

    Base on what I see, more than half of masters regard after 2300 hour as next day. This is for zwds only, not for bazi.

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    « Reply #2 on: August 04, 2018, 11:10:28 PM »
    Thank You Sebest. Now I know that I will use the ZWDS using 23 Hr dateline and take into account that it is the next day for my ZWDS chart, but for Bazi itu is still not changeed.  ;D

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    Re: ZWDS Natal Chart and Time of Birth Issue
    « Reply #3 on: August 05, 2018, 12:24:00 AM »
    also include bazi,  if zi hour should change to a new  day.. in zi time. i did not checked i hope some bazi master can verified for you.

    any way your time is very close between two chart.. you needed a experience pro to your verified which one is your .

    good luck

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    « Reply #4 on: August 05, 2018, 05:48:44 AM »
    I am not pro in this so can't explained in details.

    Zwds uses lunar calendar.
    Bazi uses solar calendar.

    So bazi doesn't have this debate,

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    « Reply #5 on: August 05, 2018, 05:53:03 AM »
    Thank You Sebest. Now I know that I will use the ZWDS using 23 Hr dateline and take into account that it is the next day for my ZWDS chart, but for Bazi itu is still not changeed.  ;D

    It will still be better to verify both charts to consider as today or tomorrow. Till date even some experienced master still regard 12am as cut off date. The debate is still on-going and don't think it will end, same as whether to adjust time...

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    Re: ZWDS Natal Chart and Time of Birth Issue
    « Reply #6 on: August 05, 2018, 10:11:47 AM »
    well one of the master i watch in youtube regard of bazi.. he said if u changed to zi hour that mean also which mean it will changes the date to next lunar date. well i am not master .. maybe someone who  are here which are pro or master which can verified for us.

    thanks .



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    « Reply #7 on: August 05, 2018, 08:59:27 PM »
    well one of the master i watch in youtube regard of bazi.. he said if u changed to zi hour that mean also which mean it will changes the date to next lunar date. well i am not master .. maybe someone who  are here which are pro or master which can verified for us.

    thanks .

    So that means my Bazi could change as well. But I read on internet there are 2 Rat hours, 1 is the evening rat hour which is 23:00-00:00 and the other is from 00:00-01:00.

    Thanks for the answer and thoughts. On my Bazi I feel more like Monkey DM than Rooster DM  ;D

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  • Re: ZWDS Natal Chart and Time of Birth Issue
    « Reply #8 on: August 05, 2018, 09:03:23 PM »
    Thank You Sebest. Now I know that I will use the ZWDS using 23 Hr dateline and take into account that it is the next day for my ZWDS chart, but for Bazi itu is still not changeed.  ;D

    It will still be better to verify both charts to consider as today or tomorrow. Till date even some experienced master still regard 12am as cut off date. The debate is still on-going and don't think it will end, same as whether to adjust time...

    So I have to check from both ZWDS chart which one more accurate to represents me? One has Lian Zhen in Ming in Yin and one Ming palace is empty. I think can be both  :-\

    In website destinyandluck when I put my birthdate with 23:08 PM it automatically converted into Feb 9, 1993 23:00 with lunar date of January 18th, 1993. They said chinese changed day at 11 PM.

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