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  • Hi,

    I have the some issues here. My birthdate is 1/Feb/1985 (16:55 pm)

    I do not know if my Day Master is strong or weak at this point. If is just see my Xin born in the month of Chou (End of Winter), it suppose to be weak. But i do have Geng and Xin rooted, so? I'm a bit confused. Hope someone here can help me out

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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #1 on: September 21, 2018, 01:52:15 PM »
    Male / Female? Location of birth?

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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #2 on: September 21, 2018, 02:19:09 PM »
    Sorry about it.

    Male and Malaysia (Melaka)

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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #3 on: September 21, 2018, 05:30:23 PM »
             DM
    Bing   Xin   Ding   Jia
    Shen  Wei  Chou   Zi

    You have both Bing and Ding fire on your left and right ganging up on you and to make matter worse Jia wood on the year stem is further supporting both Bing and Ding. On the stem side, DM is sitting on Wei and born on Chou month which is Earth that produces DM and on the Hour stem there's Shen which is same element Metal to provide support to DM.  Upon further inspection there's a a six clash of Chou & Wei branch which severely reduce the support of Chou. Plus the fact that Xin is born in end of winter where the metal qi is in tomb and out of season, i'll deduce that your DM is considered weak.

    Just asking do you by any chance to not get along with your parents?
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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #4 on: September 21, 2018, 05:46:51 PM »
             DM
    Bing   Xin   Ding   Jia
    Shen  Wei  Chou   Zi

    You have both Bing and Ding fire on your left and right ganging up on you and to make matter worse Jia wood on the year stem is further supporting both Bing and Ding. On the stem side, DM is sitting on Wei and born on Chou month which is Earth that produces DM and on the Hour stem there's Shen which is same element Metal to provide support to DM.  Upon further inspection there's a a six clash of Zi & Chou branch which severely reduce the support of Chou. Plus the fact that Xin is born in end of winter where the metal qi is in tomb and out of season, i'll deduce that your DM is considered weak.

    Just asking do you by any chance to leave your hometown for studies or to work very early in life?

    Thanks for the analysis. I have not left my hometown for studies very early of my life.

    For discussion purposes, I have a few conflict on the statement above. Since the chart is born is the end of winter season (Chou), the Jia Wood on my stem would be pretty strong and certainly unable to be the fuel of the weak Ding Fire? The six clash is from Chou - Wei? Zi Chou combination will just make it muddy and give a better grounding since Gui lend the water to Ji? Besides that, it seems Bing Fire and Xin Earth will not succeed as well the root does not support?

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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #5 on: September 21, 2018, 05:58:29 PM »
             DM
    Bing   Xin   Ding   Jia
    Shen  Wei  Chou   Zi

    You have both Bing and Ding fire on your left and right ganging up on you and to make matter worse Jia wood on the year stem is further supporting both Bing and Ding. On the stem side, DM is sitting on Wei and born on Chou month which is Earth that produces DM and on the Hour stem there's Shen which is same element Metal to provide support to DM.  Upon further inspection there's a a six clash of Zi & Chou branch which severely reduce the support of Chou. Plus the fact that Xin is born in end of winter where the metal qi is in tomb and out of season, i'll deduce that your DM is considered weak.

    Just asking do you by any chance to leave your hometown for studies or to work very early in life?

    Thanks for the analysis. I have not left my hometown for studies very early of my life.

    For discussion purposes, I have a few conflict on the statement above. Since the chart is born is the end of winter season (Chou), the Jia Wood on my stem would be pretty strong and certainly unable to be the fuel of the weak Ding Fire? The six clash is from Chou - Wei? Zi Chou combination will just make it muddy and give a better grounding since Gui lend the water to Ji? Besides that, it seems Bing Fire and Xin Earth will not succeed as well the root does not support?

    Even if Jia would not support both Bing and Ding, Xin is still sandwich between both 2 Fires.

    Only a Seasonal and Full 3 Combinations take precedence over a Six Clash so i don't think Zi Chou are able to combine. Depends on which source you refer to, Bing Xin do not transform in the month of Chou and on some months Bing Xin would actually transform to fire vs water. Having said that i don't think DM can combine in this sense as there's still support from the EB else this would have been a Transformation Chart

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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #6 on: September 21, 2018, 06:13:48 PM »
    I see.
    By the way, from where did you deduce that i left for studies or work at a very young age? I have no clue at all at this point.

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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #7 on: September 21, 2018, 06:38:23 PM »
    Hi,

    I have the some issues here. My birthdate is 1/Feb/1985 (16:55 pm)

    I do not know if my Day Master is strong or weak at this point. If is just see my Xin born in the month of Chou (End of Winter), it suppose to be weak. But i do have Geng and Xin rooted, so? I'm a bit confused. Hope someone here can help me out
    Strong.. using wood as a usefull god.

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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #8 on: September 21, 2018, 08:11:49 PM »
    Hi,

    I have the some issues here. My birthdate is 1/Feb/1985 (16:55 pm)

    I do not know if my Day Master is strong or weak at this point. If is just see my Xin born in the month of Chou (End of Winter), it suppose to be weak. But i do have Geng and Xin rooted, so? I'm a bit confused. Hope someone here can help me out
    Strong.. using wood as a usefull god.

    Erm.... now i am utterly confuse. Need some other sifu to clarify

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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #9 on: September 21, 2018, 08:57:27 PM »
    Hi,

    I have the some issues here. My birthdate is 1/Feb/1985 (16:55 pm)

    I do not know if my Day Master is strong or weak at this point. If is just see my Xin born in the month of Chou (End of Winter), it suppose to be weak. But i do have Geng and Xin rooted, so? I'm a bit confused. Hope someone here can help me out
    Strong.. using wood as a usefull god.

    Erm.... now i am utterly confuse. Need some other sifu to clarify
    Hahahaha.. More sifu you ask will make more confuse.

    Like someone in this forum has analyst by a lot of master and he confuse. :)
    One said bla bla bla
    The other said different

    Using mangpai will has different analyst and solution
    Using zwds will has different analyst
    Using traditional bazi different again
    Using vedic will has different again.

    So confuse in destiny analyst. :)


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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #10 on: September 21, 2018, 09:18:44 PM »
    I just wish to know if my Day Master Xin Metal is strong or weak for my Bazi Natal Chart and why
     :'(

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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #11 on: September 21, 2018, 09:51:22 PM »
    I just wish to know if my Day Master Xin Metal is strong or weak for my Bazi Natal Chart and why
     :'(
    If using traditional analyst.

    Strong and weak just first step.
    The important is usefull god.

    Xin born in chou month which resource structure. Mother strong (earth) so child (xin metal) will be strong. Second xin sit at wei (resource) again, Additional resource. Third birth time is shen, rooted for metal. Also chou is store of metal. So its strong xin metal.

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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #12 on: September 22, 2018, 01:07:29 AM »
    I just wish to know if my Day Master Xin Metal is strong or weak for my Bazi Natal Chart and why
     :'(
    If using traditional analyst.

    Strong and weak just first step.
    The important is usefull god.

    Xin born in chou month which resource structure. Mother strong (earth) so child (xin metal) will be strong. Second xin sit at wei (resource) again, Additional resource. Third birth time is shen, rooted for metal. Also chou is store of metal. So its strong xin metal.

    Yes, exactly that is the first step. But i need to know if its strong or weak so i can know which god is more beneficial to me. Your explanation does make a lot of sense. But during winter season (Chou), earth is pretty weak to trapped position. They might not grow Metal as much?

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    « Reply #13 on: September 22, 2018, 08:46:39 AM »
    I just wish to know if my Day Master Xin Metal is strong or weak for my Bazi Natal Chart and why
     :'(
    If using traditional analyst.

    Strong and weak just first step.
    The important is usefull god.

    Xin born in chou month which resource structure. Mother strong (earth) so child (xin metal) will be strong. Second xin sit at wei (resource) again, Additional resource. Third birth time is shen, rooted for metal. Also chou is store of metal. So its strong xin metal.

    Yes, exactly that is the first step. But i need to know if its strong or weak so i can know which god is more beneficial to me. Your explanation does make a lot of sense. But during winter season (Chou), earth is pretty weak to trapped position. They might not grow Metal as much?
    Chou is tomb/store of metal. Main qi of chou is earth even in winter. So 2 point in here. Main qi is resource, second is tomb/store of metal.

    Additional wei (earth) plus time of birth is shen (metal). Its strong.


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  • Re: Question regarding if my Day Master is Strong or Weak in my Natal Chart
    « Reply #14 on: September 22, 2018, 08:58:08 AM »
    I just wish to know if my Day Master Xin Metal is strong or weak for my Bazi Natal Chart and why
     :'(
    If using traditional analyst.

    Strong and weak just first step.
    The important is usefull god.

    Xin born in chou month which resource structure. Mother strong (earth) so child (xin metal) will be strong. Second xin sit at wei (resource) again, Additional resource. Third birth time is shen, rooted for metal. Also chou is store of metal. So its strong xin metal.

    Yes, exactly that is the first step. But i need to know if its strong or weak so i can know which god is more beneficial to me. Your explanation does make a lot of sense. But during winter season (Chou), earth is pretty weak to trapped position. They might not grow Metal as much?
    Chou is tomb/store of metal. Main qi of chou is earth even in winter. So 2 point in here. Main qi is resource, second is tomb/store of metal.

    Additional wei (earth) plus time of birth is shen (metal). Its strong.

    Having read this, DTS on the chapter that describes DM strong or weak did mention one self element in tomb is better that 2 in stem. So going by the classics your explanation makes perfect sense but does the Chou Wei clash has any influence here?

    Scitzo if you follow contemporary method then its:
    1) Season
    2) Rooted
    3) Support from other stem & branches

    From how I see using this method yours is weak as you already loose out in season. So depending on which method you use to derive your conclusion.


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