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  • Re: China-US Trade War
    « Reply #225 on: October 08, 2019, 09:28:11 PM »
    The Chinese communist values were, are and will never be aligned with our values.

    For those American and foreign companies doing business with and in China must balance profit and values. You need them more than they need you, kowtow to them for profit. Just like they kowtow to US because tariffs and sanctions imposed on Chinese companies and imported goods really hurt them.

    If American and foreign companies are unable to completely decoupling from the Chinese markets, make an attempt at least to rely less on them. US and China are locked in a trade war. You kowtow to them because you need them. They kowtow to us because they need us. Unless a trade deal is signed.       

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    « Reply #226 on: October 09, 2019, 01:41:52 AM »
    US blacklists 28 Chinese firms for human right violation before the next round of trade talk.


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    Re: China-US Trade War
    « Reply #227 on: October 09, 2019, 09:34:54 AM »

    I and many Americans believe that China desperately wants to end this trade war the sooner the better. The longer it drags on, the more suffering China has to endure the economic pain. The only change is that more and more Americans support this trade war no matter who is in control of the White House.

    You're absolutely right that Donald Trump is very concerned about the impeachment. He publicly called out China to investigate his political opponent(s). Does China have dirt on his political opponent(s)? If Yes, this is China golden opportunity to mess with Donald Trump. Does China really want to meddle with US election like Russia has done? As a reminder, the majority of Americans and US law makers see China as a foe not a friend.


    I and many Americans believe that China desperately wants to end this trade war the sooner the better.
    = And your believe, unfortunately would not materialize anytime soon, even after next presidential election.
    And this matter now is in EU hand. If EU choose to be neutral, then the fight would on and on.
    EU picks the side, that side is the winner of the game.
    If it picks US, then China would lose some ground and vice versa.
    Seems no relations, isn't it? But it works like that.



    Does China have dirt on his political opponent(s)? If Yes, this is China golden opportunity to mess with Donald Trump
    = China is much better compared to US in this matter.
    China is known for its non interference in someone else foreign matter, whether it is good or bad.

    On the other hand, US is well known to keep destroying and bad-mouthing anything that does not suit US interest.
    See Iraq and Afghanistan, and surely you know who needs to be blamed for that?

    And you can see what China has done politically to any other country medio 1949 - 2019? No one.
    China is economic predator, but US is warmonger. Incite chaos everywhere in the world.

    Oh by the way, Asian countries mostly not patronizing other countries in human rights, politics and others, unlike US and the Gang.
    In Australia, every Indonesia presidential election, Australia keep commenting a b c and looks really disgusting. Too many badmouthing and fussy, childish.
    In Indonesia, every Asutralia PM election, Indonesia just say congrats whoever the winner.  ;D

    And let me guess, when Xi is appointed, surely in US everyone cry foul.
    But when US President is being elected, China just say congrats.  ;D (Confession of some friend who lives in China and make business in Indonesia).
     


    As a reminder, the majority of Americans and US law makers see China as a foe not a friend.
    = US is just sick of China because China keeps making money.

    Jealousy is the point here, same as 1980s when Japan economy booming, and Ronald Reagan basically jealous of Japan rise and try to contain that. History repeated itself.

    US need to behave to be an adult in the room. No need to keep jealous on the others when US cannot make money, because actually US just don't have population big enough to be efficient in production.

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    « Reply #228 on: October 09, 2019, 10:12:25 AM »
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  • Re: China-US Trade War
    « Reply #229 on: October 09, 2019, 10:18:21 AM »
    I and many Americans believe that China desperately wants to end this trade war the sooner the better.
    = And your believe, unfortunately would not materialize anytime soon, even after next presidential election.
    And this matter now is in EU hand. If EU choose to be neutral, then the fight would on and on.
    EU picks the side, that side is the winner of the game.
    If it picks US, then China would lose some ground and vice versa.
    Seems no relations, isn't it? But it works like that.

    US has been imposing heavy tariffs on Chinese imported goods. Ban all US companies to do business with Huawei. Just Blacklist 28 Chinese companies yesterday before the next trade talk. Still has an extradition on the CEO of Huawei Meng Wanzhou in Canada. That's quite a punch here.  If you look to EU for answer, be my guest

    Does China have dirt on his political opponent(s)? If Yes, this is China golden opportunity to mess with Donald Trump
    = China is much better compared to US in this matter.
    China is known for its non interference in someone else foreign matter, whether it is good or bad.

    Non interference is a big word here for China. Ban travel to Taiwan. Use its powerful navy to bully Vietnam and Philippine in the south china sea. Erected an island in the middle of the south china sea and claim that part of the pacific ocean belongs to them. I can go on and on and on.

    On the other hand, US is well known to keep destroying and bad-mouthing anything that does not suit US interest.
    See Iraq and Afghanistan, and surely you know who needs to be blamed for that?

    And you can see what China has done politically to any other country medio 1949 - 2019? No one.
    China is economic predator, but US is warmonger. Incite chaos everywhere in the world.

    We never deny the US wrong doing here. We accuse our government publicly of warmonger here. I wish Chinese can openly criticize their government without being arrested, beat up and jailed.

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  • Re: China-US Trade War
    « Reply #230 on: October 09, 2019, 10:27:49 AM »
    Can you all stick to CM methods since after all, this is a CM forum and not a politics forum?

    @darkp, I got your point loud and clear.

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