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  • ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « on: June 15, 2019, 09:41:02 PM »
    Hi all,

    I’ve been doing some searching around for the effects of Di Kong and Di Jie combined in Ming palace, only found out about the effects seperately. Is there a special effect when combined?

    Thanks

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  • Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #1 on: June 16, 2019, 01:17:01 PM »
    always need full chart...

     many meanings

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  • Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #2 on: June 16, 2019, 03:25:51 PM »
    Put another way, looking at just one part of the chart is like trying to figure out what an elephant is by touching its trunk with a blindfold on and earplugs in. @ArtofFugue has a nice comic about this  ;)
    « Last Edit: June 16, 2019, 03:35:12 PM by blackswan »
    I am just a beginner, let’s be kind to each other.

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  • Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #3 on: June 17, 2019, 12:00:43 AM »
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  • Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #4 on: June 17, 2019, 10:50:57 AM »
    If you want a chart reading, perhaps posting the exact date, gender and specific question in this board (https://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?board=7.0) will help you. Or you may choose to go for a paid consultation. You should also know that it's easy, if tedious, to deconstruct the date of birth given the chart so obscuring it won't help. (E.g. year of birth Geng stem b/c of Si Hua obvious at a glance.) All the best.
    I am just a beginner, let’s be kind to each other.

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  • Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #5 on: June 17, 2019, 10:12:09 PM »
    ............ looking at just one part of the chart is like trying to figure out what an elephant is by touching its trunk with a blindfold on and earplugs in.

    ................

    One can do that provided;

    1) One has deep and profound understanding of the CM subject like grandmaster.

    2) One is bestowed trade secret/special school of techniques of high potency, of such nature (ie; to examine only 1 small part of the chart to conclude something)

    3) One understands different techniques/configurations have different levels of potency and some are more potent than others. So, when a high potency configuration is satisfied, it will over-write all other less-potent configurations.

    However, if one is a zero beginner who totally lacks confidence and needs lots of assurance/"testings" OR if one is a “half-bucket” who attends only commercial courses where only “standard package” information are taught, then it is advisable not to do that and that one should see the whole chart instead.
    « Last Edit: June 18, 2019, 09:53:30 AM by ArtofFugue »
    By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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  • Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #6 on: June 17, 2019, 10:23:57 PM »
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  • Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #7 on: June 18, 2019, 12:34:40 AM »
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  • Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #8 on: June 18, 2019, 02:10:59 AM »
    di kong di jie goes differently with different stars... full chart is always required.. u cant look specifically in one combination. in higher reading u never ever look into one palace and 1 combination.

    normally those people do not live long  HOWEVER there are circumstances that can make individual prosperous and long live...


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  • Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #9 on: June 18, 2019, 09:39:36 AM »
    Put another way, looking at just one part of the chart is like trying to figure out what an elephant is by touching its trunk with a blindfold on and earplugs in. @ArtofFugue has a nice comic about this  ;)

    Wrong, that pic is not about that. Read the text on that pic again.
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  • Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #10 on: June 18, 2019, 09:48:00 AM »
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    .....................

    Pairing of stars have special techniques/applications. Not just Di Kong + Di Jie (though they also have special meaning/applications when together).

    Also goes for other pairs of stars like:
    > Fire + Bell,
    > Left Hand + Right Hand,
    > Scroll + Painting,
    > Sky Sanctuary + Heavenly Fortune, ....etc.

    Unfortunately, these belong to Higher Advance and lesser-known applications, not taught in books and commercial courses.

    Most members have this rigid mentality of "need to see whole chart", thus unable to discuss specific parts of a chart whole-heartedly. That is another unfortunate. Let them be if they want.
    « Last Edit: June 18, 2019, 09:57:13 AM by ArtofFugue »
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    Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #11 on: June 22, 2019, 02:41:23 AM »
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  • Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #12 on: June 22, 2019, 04:44:12 AM »
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    Di Kong and Di jie when solo is no effect.

    Di Kong Di jie team up together in SFSZ is crazy scary effect. The whole palace almost void. In SanHe ZWDS many people failed to read this and mistaken the person have good life.
    they can have good life why not?

    special formation San KONG, kong jie  with xun or jiekong negates all bad effect of it... there are more...

    u can have kong jie in SFSZ of ming and still be good or kong jie clipping the ming.. and still be good life

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    Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #13 on: June 22, 2019, 12:10:24 PM »
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  • Re: ZWDS - Di Kong and Di Jie combined?
    « Reply #14 on: June 22, 2019, 12:57:54 PM »
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    special formation San KONG, kong jie  with xun or jiekong negates all bad effect of it... there are more...

    u can have kong jie in SFSZ of ming and still be good or kong jie clipping the ming.. and still be good life
    The affected palace won't be good life, chart owner can forget about making the palace a success. If good life is due to other palaces helping. There is still family and outside people can help.

    If BaZi not balanced, the chart owner will keep chasing those palace voided by Kong Jie which makes the situation even worse. Suggest take up religious approach on the palace.

    Hit at ming gong, there is still shen gong to help. If shen gong still 会 kong jie really meaningless. Worst is kong jie + sha + hua ji.
    in some cases i mean good life from individual perspective triple kong is not bad or even di kong di jie in ming is bad.. yes bad if hua ji is present too.. However  does not necessary good life from family... those people are able to build from scratch.... di kong di jie in ming could only have meaning of the look of the person... ALSO there is saying di kong di jie in ming, decade with qisha is the end but to me only 80% correct, because you have to look at Karma palace, AND health palace, because jie kong in health can destroy and prevent ur end..


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