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  • Curious about my DM and future welfare
    « on: August 21, 2019, 11:48:11 AM »
    Hello all members.

    This is my second thread. The first one is about my friend Daniel. This time I want to ask about my self.

    My name is Mike. I was born in Surabaya city, East Java province, Indonesia.

    My DOB is 9 November 1987, 23.10.

    I know very little about Bazi and curious about my Day Master. I have read my chart online and found that some online calculators said that I am Gui (yin water) and the other is Ren (yang water). Which one is right one? Most of calculator shows that I am Ren.

    Actually I feel more Gui than Ren, but often we can not judge ourselves properly, right? (and my knowledge about bazi analysis is also very little / poor)

    I have no major problem right now. My life goes quite smooth, eventhough not the perfect one.  Maybe because I'm not the type of person who has high expectiations. I work as an office staff.  My job is quite easy and unproblematic. I have girlfriend. My relationship is quite fine and normal. I have no debts and any current financial difficulties. No stress at all most of the time.

    But I'm curious about my welfare in the future. My childhood was not very well. My family is living in financial difficulties (even can be said to be poor). Thanks to God, things are getting better and better as I grow up. However those childhood memories make me have my own worries about my welfare in the future.

    Will I be okay? Or will there be any problems that I should be aware of later?

    Hopefully someone here is willing to help and give me answer.

    Sincerely,
    Mike

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  • Re: Curious about my DM and future welfare
    « Reply #1 on: August 21, 2019, 09:06:13 PM »
    Hello all members.

    This is my second thread. The first one is about my friend Daniel. This time I want to ask about my self.

    My name is Mike. I was born in Surabaya city, East Java province, Indonesia.

    My DOB is 9 November 1987, 23.10.

    I know very little about Bazi and curious about my Day Master. I have read my chart online and found that some online calculators said that I am Gui (yin water) and the other is Ren (yang water). Which one is right one? Most of calculator shows that I am Ren.

    Actually I feel more Gui than Ren, but often we can not judge ourselves properly, right? (and my knowledge about bazi analysis is also very little / poor)

    I have no major problem right now. My life goes quite smooth, eventhough not the perfect one.  Maybe because I'm not the type of person who has high expectiations. I work as an office staff.  My job is quite easy and unproblematic. I have girlfriend. My relationship is quite fine and normal. I have no debts and any current financial difficulties. No stress at all most of the time.

    But I'm curious about my welfare in the future. My childhood was not very well. My family is living in financial difficulties (even can be said to be poor). Thanks to God, things are getting better and better as I grow up. However those childhood memories make me have my own worries about my welfare in the future.

    Will I be okay? Or will there be any problems that I should be aware of later?

    Hopefully someone here is willing to help and give me answer.

    Sincerely,
    Mike

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  • Re: Curious about my DM and future welfare
    « Reply #2 on: August 21, 2019, 10:14:34 PM »
       DM
    壬 壬 辛 丁
    子 戌 亥 卯

    Just beginner analysis:

    - 壬 want to combine with 丁 and 戌 want to combine with 卯, but 子 punish 卯. Above 子 is 壬 DM itself, and above 卯 is 丁 father star, so probably your relationship with father is not too good. Moreover, 丁 as father star enter 戌 tomb.

    - In the chart, 亥 want to combine with 卯, but at above 丁 as a father star is clashing 辛 as a mother star. So probably the relationship between your father and mother is not too good, or both of them lack affinity with each other.

    @TianQi @j27945 Please correct my Bazi reading as I'm still learning. :D

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  • Re: Curious about my DM and future welfare
    « Reply #3 on: August 22, 2019, 12:53:47 AM »
    @wellhandy yes, I am working, off course. I change job at 2011. Nothing special happened in 2013.

    Thank you for your suggestion above. For your additional information, I was graduate from university in 2009. Get my first job in 2010 and work there until mid 2011. I was jobless for few month after my resignation and then got my current job in late Oct 2011. At first, my current job feels so hard, but everything getting better in 2016 afterwards.
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    « Reply #4 on: August 22, 2019, 12:59:59 AM »
    @fan yes, my I am not very close to my father like typicall father and son, but generally everything is fine. We never argue or querrel.

    But, my parents relationship is fine. They are close for each other. Indeed, few times bad situation occurs but they can handle it. My father not romantic at all. Thats it.

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  • Re: Curious about my DM and future welfare
    « Reply #5 on: August 22, 2019, 01:12:26 AM »
    Just for additional insight.

    I am closer to my mother than my father. I am oldest child. Have two sisters. My relationshil with my sisters is good, eventhough not very close. My sister born in 1988 and 1991. Besides my mother, I have close relatiinship with both of my grandmothers. My grandfathers died when I was a baby and when I am 9 y.o. I tend to have better relationship with women than men. My closest friends are a bunch of women from my college years until now.

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  • Re: Curious about my DM and future welfare
    « Reply #6 on: August 22, 2019, 02:15:52 AM »
    Hi Mike, thanks for your feedback.

    Anyway your chart is interesting, there are 3 different ways to plot your chart:

    1. Using 24:00 as day cut-off:
       DM
    壬 壬 辛 丁
    子 戌 亥 卯

    2. Using 23:00 as day cut-off:
       DM
    壬 癸 辛 丁
    子 亥 亥 卯

    3. Using lunar calendar:
       DM
    庚 壬 庚 丁
    子 戌 戌 卯

    I better let other Bazi users decrypt your chart, this should be a good case study. ;D

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  • Re: Curious about my DM and future welfare
    « Reply #7 on: August 22, 2019, 09:28:29 AM »
    @fan thank you for your kind effort. Yes, my birth hour make my chart rather ambiguous. Thats what I said above that sometimes online calculator said I am Ren and sometimes Gui.

    Yes, hopefully masters here willing to help me clarify my chart.

    Sincerely,
    Mike

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    « Reply #8 on: August 22, 2019, 01:43:23 PM »
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    « Reply #9 on: August 22, 2019, 02:38:56 PM »
    Thank you for your answer @rainmaster . Really appreciate your kindness and suggestions about my welfare and bussines prospect.

    Here I will give you some confirmation:
    1. Mike, did you leave your parent's home or hometown (city of birth) already?
    --> I lived apart from my family when I entered high school in 2002 until now, but I come home regularly every weekend or holidays.

    2. Are your parents closer to your sisters than to you?
    --> My father is closer to my second sister. My mother actually tried to treat her children fairly. But indeed she was closer to my youngest sister. Maybe this is more due to same gender.

    3. In general, was 2018 better than 2019?
    --> Actually, so far I feels 2019 is better, or at least equal with 2018. But 2019 still have few months to go. I don't know what will happen next.

    So, it is confirms my belief that I am gui, and not ren, since I am not strong will and dinamic type of person. I conseider my self as people who are relaxed in living life, not so dinamic.

    My chart became:
    Ren   Gui    Xin   Ding
    Zi      Hai    Hai   Mao

    My chart have plenty of water (or even too much?). Is it okay for me?
    Is it strong or weak DM?
    Besides that, with the gui hai chart I don't have any earth element at all. What does that mean for me? Is that means something is missing in my life? Since earth means power for me.

    Sincerely,
    Mike

    « Last Edit: August 22, 2019, 02:53:18 PM by Mike Armstrong »

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  • Re: Curious about my DM and future welfare
    « Reply #10 on: August 22, 2019, 04:29:05 PM »
    Whether someone uses 癸亥 or 壬戌 depend on their style and who taught them.

    I would use 癸亥  because early/late zi theory is a modern invention; based on modern inventions.  It has nothing to do with natural time that bazi is based off of.

    Strong 癸 dm unlike 壬 dm is much more soft spoken outwardly.  Even though they might feel differently on the inside.

    This chart can not follow water because of two 亥 combo with 卯。
    So most use wood and fire. Earth less so because wet earth is not helpful.

    You just entered 丁未 lp, 亥卯未 combo is a 贵人 combo. Means you will receive support from people in power.
    Last year many changes because you just entered new lp. Probably rise in position at work.

    What i will be careful of is too becareful of how you go about achieving your goals, because you are highly ambitious.  You could do things to achieve your goals and later regret.

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    « Reply #11 on: August 22, 2019, 05:28:36 PM »
    Hai @BillionaireboyLam , thank you so much for your reply and information.

    I would use 癸亥  because early/late zi theory is a modern invention; based on modern inventions.  It has nothing to do with natural time that bazi is based off of.

    Strong 癸 dm unlike 壬 dm is much more soft spoken outwardly.  Even though they might feel differently on the inside.


    This is so me. People say I am soft spoken, even though I can say rude too when I'm joking.


    This chart can not follow water because of two 亥 combo with 卯。
    So most use wood and fire. Earth less so because wet earth is not helpful.

    I am sorry, I don't understand this. Do you mean that my DM is not Gui, but other elements?

    Confirmation about this:
    "Last year many changes because you just entered new lp. Probably rise in position at work. "

    It was not rise in position at work that happened last year, but I have a side job that increase my income. Not very big, but i feel gratitude. And I began my relationship with my GF last year, which is my first relationship ever in my life.


    I appreciate your sugestion about how I should be more carefull in the future. I will keep it in mind. :)

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    « Reply #12 on: August 22, 2019, 06:17:48 PM »
    Hai @BillionaireboyLam , thank you so much for your reply and information.

    I would use 癸亥  because early/late zi theory is a modern invention; based on modern inventions.  It has nothing to do with natural time that bazi is based off of.

    Strong 癸 dm unlike 壬 dm is much more soft spoken outwardly.  Even though they might feel differently on the inside.


    This is so me. People say I am soft spoken, even though I can say rude too when I'm joking.


    This chart can not follow water because of two 亥 combo with 卯。
    So most use wood and fire. Earth less so because wet earth is not helpful.

    I am sorry, I don't understand this. Do you mean that my DM is not Gui, but other elements?

    Confirmation about this:
    "Last year many changes because you just entered new lp. Probably rise in position at work. "

    It was not rise in position at work that happened last year, but I have a side job that increase my income. Not very big, but i feel gratitude. And I began my relationship with my GF last year, which is my first relationship ever in my life.


    I appreciate your sugestion about how I should be more carefull in the future. I will keep it in mind. :)

    Hi @Mike Armstrong
    There are many chart structures in bazi, your chart almost meet criteria for one special type of chart structure called 润下格, in your case it is a good thing; because you just started 60 years of good luck.
    In BaZi a good LP is better then a good chart structure in fact i have seen some of the most successful people have charts that are hugely imbalanced but good LP's.
    This LP is basically a signal of rise in position and living standard. Also easy to receive wide support so good to do own business.
    Just that strong water DM's all have a common flaw and that is 欲望 in english translate as "desire" but not really good translation.
    Basically someone who desires a lot in life, but have to control over-desiring.

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    « Reply #13 on: August 22, 2019, 06:47:06 PM »
    Hi, @Mike Armstrong
    Just out of curiosity your grandfather generation was more rich or higher position then your father generation?

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    « Reply #14 on: August 22, 2019, 06:52:35 PM »
    Thank you for your further explanation. I am amaze.
    @BillionaireboyLam

    One of Bazi book that I have read said the same thing as you. LP is more important than birth chart. That book said that birth chart is like car and LP is the road.

    So glad to know that everything will be okay for me in the future. I will keep in mind that I should act wisely and not to be over ambitious.
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