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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #15 on: October 07, 2019, 10:19:24 AM »
    I think you’ve conflated a few issues behind what you’re experiencing:

    1. Professionals can be wrong as they practice different methods with varying accuracy, OR the querent has take action to avoid what was foretold correctly
    2. Querent may ask a question that’s impossible to answer
    3. Professional may not want to answer querent’s question (eg when will I die?)

    I think #1 is the most common. I’ve received quite a bit of bad paid for and free advice, I understand where it’s coming from though because of studying the calculations behind their advice. Also YMMV but I found that online readings have been better because local pros tend to let their personal views get in the way of the consult. (One guy got retrenched from the sector I currently work in and so told me not to do it lolol.)
    I am just a beginner, let’s be kind to each other.

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  • By people sharing knowledge/info publicly, the info itself does not devalue to become "common internet data which lacks credibility and needs verifying". If everyone thinks in this way, nobody would want to share anymore in order to protect the value and integrity of their knowledge.

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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #17 on: October 08, 2019, 11:19:06 AM »
    Agreed with @ArtofFugue

    Happened to me
    Same birth with one actrees which she then turn into professional working for big co as VP
    whilst i was doing biz and also ever as VP in china government company then become solitude in mountain slope with daily activities feeds free birds, wild cats, enjoy nature, meditation lol

    Bazi is only first capital on man, the rest we are the one has to working on it

    How many people getting rich whilst their bazi didnt support ? can tell ? not only merely due their good deeds BUT also what " behind " them
    some amulets could make someone rich too , i knew that , even in bazi masters , lol




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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #18 on: October 13, 2019, 09:59:35 PM »
    Agreed with @ArtofFugue

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    How many people getting rich whilst their bazi didnt support ? can tell ?
    ..................

    It could be due to "Hidden Element(s)" which is/are not plotted in their ordinary Bazi chart?

    https://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=16596.0
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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #19 on: October 13, 2019, 10:14:18 PM »
    well... may be its from bazi point of views is about element
    but in spiritual eyes, nothing could be hidden , appear as it is when its involving something " beyond "
    difficult to explain it .... my problem  :'(



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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #20 on: October 13, 2019, 11:23:15 PM »
    well... may be its from bazi point of views is about element
    but in spiritual eyes, nothing could be hidden , appear as it is when its involving something " beyond "
    difficult to explain it .... my problem  :'(

    I think we are ignoring the obvious, which are partnerships. I saw so many cases where people were running a successful business although they don’t have it in the chart, but once you look at the chart of their spouse or business partners, then things come together. Kids could also provide a missing and vital element.
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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #21 on: October 14, 2019, 12:46:43 AM »
    agreed with @johnyqi

    Aside from above i ve said based on spiritual eyes i fully agreed sometimes marriage can bring good luck or bad luck to someone as well the children
    some were good but after having children divorce
    not limited to house they are living
    some after built house then experienced disasters downfall
    some after built new house the property keep adding

    so many things involve in someone destiny , i met those people fulfill those criteria ( including one using " back up ") ... difficult to explain in public .... its secret , can caused accusation by revealing it

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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #22 on: October 14, 2019, 11:22:16 PM »
    This problem is a 'Standard Package' Knowledge problem, plaguing almost every CM subject.

    Most $30 Bazi books out there and even most paid courses does NOT equip the beginner with comprehensive techniques and info to tackle all kinds of charts and formations. They also need to add tons of disclaimers to prevent beginners from "straying" and taking things at face value.

    Hence, most beginners and intermediateers just use their incomplete set of techniques and declare, "Oh I can't see", "Chart don't have it", etc.
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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #23 on: October 14, 2019, 11:28:25 PM »
    This problem is a 'Standard Package' Knowledge problem, plaguing almost every CM subject.

    Most $30 Bazi books out there and even most paid courses does NOT equip the beginner with comprehensive techniques and info to tackle all kinds of charts and formations. They also need to add tons of disclaimers to prevent beginners from "straying" and taking things at face value.

    Hence, most beginners and intermediateers just use their incomplete set of techniques and declare, "Oh I can't see", "Chart don't have it", etc.

    Joey Yap simplified the method, and fooled thousands of people. His books are too simplistic, and thinly spread. Everything that he writes in ten books I could put in one. But that’s business, he made good money from this superficial teaching model.
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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #24 on: October 15, 2019, 07:30:13 AM »
    Both for @ArtofFugue and @johnyqi

    I was only able to grins .... happy
    And i hope you both kept on your way to keep meditating.....
    You ve both had something in you through your hardship in life and contemplation

    I dont know bazi at all, i came here only to pass by due inner moved me , not to learn bazi too as i knew its not my line / fated , just passing by ..... but i couldnt say i agree more for your both words

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    « Reply #25 on: October 15, 2019, 11:04:18 AM »
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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #26 on: October 15, 2019, 12:20:33 PM »
    Not all master is good
    Some crossing the way ....
    If all masters are good, so wow for the CM

    I wish your inner self catch hidden meaning what i am trying to say

    thats only my point of view.. as very little part of my duty...

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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #27 on: October 21, 2019, 10:12:49 PM »

    Joey Yap simplified the method, and fooled thousands of people. His books are too simplistic, and thinly spread. Everything that he writes in ten books I could put in one. But that’s business, he made good money from this superficial teaching model.

    Better study chinese books!
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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #28 on: October 21, 2019, 11:26:33 PM »
    Western and Chinese books are all valuable. It's your critical thinking and analysis on the subject that makes it worthwhile. Everybody starts as a beginner.

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  • Re: different bazi analysis reading by different masters
    « Reply #29 on: October 22, 2019, 03:42:10 PM »
    Western and Chinese books are all valuable. It's your critical thinking and analysis on the subject that makes it worthwhile. Everybody starts as a beginner.

    I think I'm more or less done with books, practical experience is now the key for me. And this forum, of course :-)
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