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  • Question about yongshen?Useful god.
    « on: October 24, 2019, 01:20:37 PM »
    Hi masters,

    Good day!!

    I was born in november 18 1987 7.30 am in olongapo city philippines.I am male.My chart is like this
    hour.  day.  month.  year
    ren.   xin.    xin.        ding
    chen wei.   hai.        mao

    In my assessment this is a normal chart and REN is the yongshen or useful god?Am I correct?

    Hoping for reply from you humble masters!!

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  • Re: Question about yongshen?Useful god.
    « Reply #1 on: October 25, 2019, 07:13:26 PM »
    Hi @pleumjit

    I'm not using Yong Shen, but beware of losing money from business/investment in this luck period. You're a 辛 DM with 亥卯未 combination forms a Wood frame. Current LP 申 combine with 辰 to disturb the Wood frame as Wealth, and 申 is also your Rob Wealth.
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  • Re: Question about yongshen?Useful god.
    « Reply #2 on: October 25, 2019, 08:03:08 PM »
    Hi @pleumjit

    I'm not using Yong Shen, but beware of losing money from business/investment in this luck period. You're a 辛 DM with 亥卯未 combination forms a Wood frame. Current LP 申 combine with 辰 to disturb the Wood frame as Wealth, and 申 is also your Rob Wealth.
    If I pursue a career in nursing,am I gonna be successful?

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  • Re: Question about yongshen?Useful god.
    « Reply #3 on: October 25, 2019, 08:08:38 PM »
    Hi @pleumjit

    I'm not using Yong Shen, but beware of losing money from business/investment in this luck period. You're a 辛 DM with 亥卯未 combination forms a Wood frame. Current LP 申 combine with 辰 to disturb the Wood frame as Wealth, and 申 is also your Rob Wealth.

    Is rob wealth star always bad? Some people say rob wealth star can be really good in your chart..

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  • Re: Question about yongshen?Useful god.
    « Reply #4 on: October 25, 2019, 08:42:00 PM »
    If I pursue a career in nursing,am I gonna be successful?
    Hi pleumjit, I'm sorry I can't answer this question as I'm still learning, but I recommend to follow your passion.


    Is rob wealth star always bad? Some people say rob wealth star can be really good in your chart..
    Hi @LuckyJO, the problem here is it's meeting with Wealth:
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    YR works to clash the DM's Direct Officer, robs DM's Wealth and save 7K. By countering all the benevolent deities saving the bad deity, YR is considered extremely inauspicious.

    http://treybazi.blogspot.com/2014/11/bazi-brief-introduction-to-10-gods.html

    I'm still a Bazi learner, but IMHO every element has its own usage, so it's not fixed such as A is always good, and B is always bad, as RW can also be the remedies inside a chart. Need a careful analysis to find the sickness inside the chart to find the remedies as every chart is unique.
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    3. Seal being broken, parallel and Rob Wealth are the remedies

    http://treybazi.blogspot.com/2013/12/bazi-sickness-and-remedy-of-chart.html
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    Re: Question about yongshen?Useful god.
    « Reply #5 on: October 28, 2019, 01:15:15 AM »
    Yong shen is Metal and Earth. Wealth frame is there need to be curb.

    In winter Xin we take Bing as first yong shen but u have Ding attacking from wealth frame which is not that good, so better to strengthen with metal.
    « Last Edit: October 28, 2019, 01:21:16 AM by FlyingKite »

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  • Re: Question about yongshen?Useful god.
    « Reply #6 on: October 28, 2019, 07:06:04 PM »
    Yong shen is Metal and Earth. Wealth frame is there need to be curb.

    In winter Xin we take Bing as first yong shen but u have Ding attacking from wealth frame which is not that good, so better to strengthen with metal.
    Because xin is considered weak using the in season in  location in formation thats why the favourable elements are metal and earth..Oh god Im nearly done with my lucky luck pillars..Better be prepared!Am I correct?

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    « Reply #7 on: October 28, 2019, 11:11:15 PM »
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  • Re: Question about yongshen?Useful god.
    « Reply #8 on: March 03, 2020, 11:20:50 AM »
    Hi Hi,

    Share some of what i know for your kind consideration, thank you.

    hour.  day.  month.  year
    ren.   xin.    xin.        ding
    chen  wei.   hai.        mao

    Note:
    Yong Shen direct translated into English on many websites gives you the term Useful God.
    Yong Shen or Useful God is used to determine the bazi structure.
    Yong Shen or Useful God does not equal to the god that the bazi structure will be using.
    Personally, due to the confusion of this term, always prefer to call Yongshen as Yue Ling or Command

    Yes, Yong Shen is Hai.
    Ren protudes in heaven so your structure is Hurting Officer.
    Useful god does not change into wood despite the Hai Mao Wei wood structure since wood does not protrude in heaven.

    Yes, this is a normal bazi structure and not a special structure.

    I think your structure is completed, meaning above average in the country you are born in.
    The Xin on your month heaven stem is there to help you, good to have it.
    For luck pillars, earth is most favourable, followed by wood, but earth and wood cannot come together else it will be bad.
    Thank you.

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  • Re: Question about yongshen?Useful god.
    « Reply #9 on: March 03, 2020, 02:17:11 PM »
    Hi Hi,

    Share some of what i know for your kind consideration, thank you.

    hour.  day.  month.  year
    ren.   xin.    xin.        ding
    chen  wei.   hai.        mao

    Note:
    Yong Shen direct translated into English on many websites gives you the term Useful God.
    Yong Shen or Useful God is used to determine the bazi structure.
    Yong Shen or Useful God does not equal to the god that the bazi structure will be using.
    Personally, due to the confusion of this term, always prefer to call Yongshen as Yue Ling or Command

    Yes, Yong Shen is Hai.
    Ren protudes in heaven so your structure is Hurting Officer.
    Useful god does not change into wood despite the Hai Mao Wei wood structure since wood does not protrude in heaven.

    Yes, this is a normal bazi structure and not a special structure.

    I think your structure is completed, meaning above average in the country you are born in.
    The Xin on your month heaven stem is there to help you, good to have it.
    For luck pillars, earth is most favourable, followed by wood, but earth and wood cannot come together else it will be bad.
    Thank you.
    Thank yoi for your insights!!Appreciate it!

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  • Re: Question about yongshen?Useful god.
    « Reply #10 on: March 03, 2020, 02:51:20 PM »
    Hi Hi,

    Would appreciate if you can verify if you are above average in your country?
    Like financially and overall family career etc.
    Thank you in advance for sharing.

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    « Reply #11 on: March 03, 2020, 06:03:06 PM »
    Hi Hi,

    Would appreciate if you can verify if you are above average in your country?
    Like financially and overall family career etc.
    Thank you in advance for sharing.
    Sorry I forgot..Yes i actually I consider myself lucky I was adopted by a middle class family they sent me to good schools..Unfortunately it made me lazy and rigjt now actually I am struggling with career or maybe I was too lucky they gave me everything it made me lazy and doesnt now the word hardwork.

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    « Reply #12 on: March 03, 2020, 11:30:10 PM »
    Hi Hi,

    Thank for the kind reply.

    Congrats, it is a 1st class problem and definitely a good problem to have, many would envy to have the same problem.

    Live well and prosper :)

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  • Re: Question about yongshen?Useful god.
    « Reply #14 on: April 20, 2020, 07:45:09 AM »
    Hi masters,

    Good day!!

    I was born in november 18 1987 7.30 am in olongapo city philippines.I am male.My chart is like this
    hour.  day.  month.  year
    ren.   xin.    xin.        ding
    chen wei.   hai.        mao

    In my assessment this is a normal chart and REN is the yongshen or useful god?Am I correct?

    Hoping for reply from you humble masters!!
    So long your are positive towards the challenges of life. Most of the time the outcome would be good, that is also a form of useful god.
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    Re: Question about yongshen?Useful god.
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