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  • Let's discuss about time adjustment
    « on: December 11, 2019, 06:19:42 PM »
    Hello it's me again , well today I have some interesting topic to discuss with you guys who have more experience about this topic . The topic is about time adjustment

    I read weather news and there is a longitude latitude time zone in different area even though same country . So I am curious because I never pay attention to longitude and latitude when I entered my birth date for bazi chart . so I tried adjusted my birth time with timezones and longitude latitude of my birth place , and well it's weird why it's said -11 minutes and my birth time from 1:10 am to 12:59 am .
    I am born 30 October 2000 GMT +7
    Am I wrong ? Or right ?

    So if right then my bazi chart have different meaning.

    Hmm it's confusing and weird

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    Re: Let's discuss about time adjustment
    « Reply #1 on: December 11, 2019, 06:33:53 PM »
    In my view south east asia no need adjust.

    Adjust apply mainly for european countries where they change their timezone own time own target. For example france use +1, russia some parts use +0.

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  • Re: Let's discuss about time adjustment
    « Reply #2 on: December 11, 2019, 06:39:02 PM »
    Hello it's me again , well today I have some interesting topic to discuss with you guys who have more experience about this topic . The topic is about time adjustment

    I read weather news and there is a longitude latitude time zone in different area even though same country . So I am curious because I never pay attention to longitude and latitude when I entered my birth date for bazi chart . so I tried adjusted my birth time with timezones and longitude latitude of my birth place , and well it's weird why it's said -11 minutes and my birth time from 1:10 am to 12:59 am .
    I am born 30 October 2000 GMT +7
    Am I wrong ? Or right ?

    So if right then my bazi chart have different meaning.

    Hmm it's confusing and weird

    We have many topics on that.

    The way I currently view it is similar to Yi Jing and casting hexagrams.
    You can cast hexagram by the Suns location or by human agreed idea like clocks... Both will give you the info you need, as both will have relevance to your life.

    In that sense both chart are accurate, just need to know how to read them.  : )

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  • Re: Let's discuss about time adjustment
    « Reply #3 on: December 11, 2019, 08:47:14 PM »
    What Heaven see is like this:


    Heaven perceive 1 human as 1 planet Earth itself, no time zone in Heaven perception.

    BaZi use RST is a wrong idea.
    Time zone only apply for human, not apply for Heaven.
    In what time you were born, then it is, no need to adjust.

    Note.
    This is not just a theory. But already went through solid proven numerous investigation in famous charts history.



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  • Re: Let's discuss about time adjustment
    « Reply #4 on: December 11, 2019, 09:40:50 PM »
    What Heaven see is like this:


    Heaven perceive 1 human as 1 planet Earth itself, no time zone in Heaven perception.

    BaZi use RST is a wrong idea.
    Time zone only apply for human, not apply for Heaven.
    In what time you were born, then it is, no need to adjust.

    Note.
    This is not just a theory. But already went through solid proven numerous investigation in famous charts history.



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    Oh I see , Thank you guys for the explanation

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    Re: Let's discuss about time adjustment
    « Reply #5 on: December 11, 2019, 11:30:16 PM »
    BaZi use RST is a wrong idea.
    Can you say which from famous Grand Masters said it?
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    Re: Let's discuss about time adjustment
    « Reply #6 on: December 11, 2019, 11:36:04 PM »
    In my view south east asia no need adjust.
    Why?  ???
    If any of "south east asia" countries no use "own time" zone?
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    Re: Let's discuss about time adjustment
    « Reply #7 on: December 12, 2019, 12:14:58 AM »

    If any of "south east asia" countries no use "own time" zone?
     8)

    Most of my cases are in South East Asia. The country uses +8 on a +7 longitude. But when i adjust it goes horribly wrong in more than 95% of the time.

    When I took some European charts, all of them have to adjust to be correct. Only reason I could think is some European countries use timezone too far away and their DST is affecting.


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    « Reply #8 on: December 12, 2019, 01:34:25 AM »
    Most of my cases are in South East Asia. The country uses +8 on a +7 longitude. But when i adjust it goes horribly wrong in more than 95% of the time.
    Can you write two or three cases? Some DOB and the place of birth.
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    When I took some European charts, all of them have to adjust to be correct. Only reason I could think is some European countries use timezone too far away and their DST is affecting.
    This is NOT logical.
    This means that Europeans lives according to real solar time but Asians lives according to clock time.
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    « Reply #9 on: December 12, 2019, 03:19:27 AM »
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  • Re: Let's discuss about time adjustment
    « Reply #10 on: December 12, 2019, 10:38:30 AM »
    I think this is a good topic to discuss, depends on the calendar system used, but Bazi calendar is using the angle of the sun by the observer at the specific lat,lng,alt on earth, it's probably not about the amount of sunlight but I believe it's rather a reference to the astrology coordinates that discovered by our ancestors. In my opinion, bazi should always start using true solar time as a reference, (of course, there are other factors as well which is out of our measurement scope), if it's the coordinate system developed, does it apply to any place on earth? not necessary, so it might be good to be skeptical when somebody handover the birthtime. I usually observe the current & previous hour charts for those who born in SG & West Malaysia. Perhaps the following chart of solar angles at 3 locations on earth vs identical local timezone (GMT+8) average for 19 years can explain why the local timezone can distort your bazi chart.

    As you can see from the chart below, GMT+8 for Taiwan is pretty much identical between local timezone and solar time, solar noon is almost at 12PM for past 19 years, but Ipoh town located at west Malaysia is off about 1 hour as compared to Taipei. 




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    Re: Let's discuss about time adjustment
    « Reply #13 on: December 12, 2019, 07:04:49 PM »
    [Hidden post: You need login to forum to see it.]I use ZWDS + Bazi to verify its super accurate.
    So you use lunar calendar in Ba Zi ? OK, OK, your choice.  :)
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    People thought it works everywhere just because of some graphs or scientific in internet. You have to be on the ground to measure it.
    I think that you didn't be in Singapore March 31, 1996 to measure the time by sundial. So don't negate the adjusting of time in Ba Zi. >:(
    All what you "verify" was if the time of birth which was given you by your clients was correct.
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