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    « Reply #15 on: January 23, 2020, 02:22:37 AM »
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    « Reply #16 on: January 23, 2020, 05:17:44 AM »
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    « Reply #17 on: January 23, 2020, 09:28:24 AM »
    I don't know anything about ZWDS, so no comment there.

    Chou is Metal tomb. So the You + Chou won't change anything. When Si(Snake) shows up in the LP, it will combine with Chou & You to form a metal frame. There are schools out there saying that there must be Metal in the month branch or in the LP for it to transform. I disagree with that concept. The best way to confirm that is for you to not listen to me or anyone. Observe when that happens in your life and see which one is correct. No one knows your life better than yourself.   

    @gentlejoker No worries about the ZWDS part, I hope someone in that department could give me answers eventually.

    What should have happened if Si + You + Chou did combine together, but there wasn't any Metal elements in the HS?

    And what would happen if LP's HS eventually appears either a Xin / Geng Metal element, but without the Si (Snake) EB, apart from Annual Pillar passing by?

    For my future reference what should have and would have happened.

    Thank you!
    In my opinion, combination and transformation always take place. Many believe otherwise. You will have to pay close attention to see which one is correct.

    When Si + You + Chou meets will give you lots of Metal. Is Metal favorable to your DM? Yes. What is Metal in relation to your DM? Relationship & Authority.

    Yi Geng = Geng denotes a union or a bonding. As Geng is favorable to you, I can say it's a good one. This formation is afraid of Fire(Horse) because it will likely break it apart. Xin refers to lover & 7K.

    @gentlejoker what if Si + You + Chou meets Fire LP? Will it still be effective? Or is that going to hurt my relationship, since Fire elements hurt my Metal.

    Why would Horse in particular hurts the Yi + Geng combination? Would the Ding Fire in Horse EB be strong enough to affect the combo? Or is it because Horse's main Qi is Fire, that's why it will hurt the Metal transformation?
    Yes, Fire will always counter the Metal.

    Yes, Horse is in the middle of summer and has the strongest fire.

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  • Re: Self + Resource heavy chart meets Chang Shen LP = Death?
    « Reply #18 on: January 24, 2020, 07:05:02 PM »
    Hope the new year brings goodness to everyone...

    Based on https://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=2086.0 :

    生地相逢,壯年不祿。(此言劫印重重,又行日主長生之地,主死。)
    When the Jie and the Direct Resource is abundant and prosperous, and one’s self is undergoing the luck of Chang Sheng to self, denote death.

    Can someone please give some insight into the following chart:

                DM                     LP   (At Chang Shen)
    DING   YI     JIA  GUI    WU
    CHOU YOU  YIN  HAI    WU

    Will something bad happen?
    What are the favourable elements for this chart?

    Thank you!

    You translate it wrong the encrypted massage Cupid.
    生地相逢,壯年不祿。(此言劫印重重,又行日主長生之地,主死。)

    The translation of that writting is:
    Year pillar exactly appear in current LP. (生地 Birth spot is Year pillar. Because people only ask you born in what year).
    In AP year that make DM strong, is not carry prosperity meaning.
    This referring to configuration inside AP year pillar consist with RW+Resources - a very strong AP year for DM.
    And the last requirement, DM Chang Sheng in their own Day pillar.
    Timing of DM dead.



    Note.
    Hmm it's a formula need for further investigation.
    If I found it correct consistently in 3 BaZi, I will post again.
    In a mean time anyone please help to investigate this formula too ya.


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    Re: Self + Resource heavy chart meets Chang Shen LP = Death?
    « Reply #19 on: January 25, 2020, 12:44:27 AM »
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    I think Ren prefers chart from bazi-calculator.com

    Hi @tyc

    I do use that webpage at times, too. And I think that gives the chart I initially provided. I hope @ren can clarify whether the chart I provided is indeed incorrect.

    Thank you.

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    Re: Self + Resource heavy chart meets Chang Shen LP = Death?
    « Reply #20 on: January 25, 2020, 12:46:35 AM »
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    Sorry look like I may have a browser issue somewhere.

    @ren does that mean the chart I provided is indeed correct?
    If so, can you please give me some feedback based on the answers I'd provided previously in answer to your questions?

    Thank you.

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    Re: Self + Resource heavy chart meets Chang Shen LP = Death?
    « Reply #21 on: January 25, 2020, 12:51:06 AM »
    I don't know anything about ZWDS, so no comment there.

    Chou is Metal tomb. So the You + Chou won't change anything. When Si(Snake) shows up in the LP, it will combine with Chou & You to form a metal frame. There are schools out there saying that there must be Metal in the month branch or in the LP for it to transform. I disagree with that concept. The best way to confirm that is for you to not listen to me or anyone. Observe when that happens in your life and see which one is correct. No one knows your life better than yourself.   

    @gentlejoker No worries about the ZWDS part, I hope someone in that department could give me answers eventually.

    What should have happened if Si + You + Chou did combine together, but there wasn't any Metal elements in the HS?

    And what would happen if LP's HS eventually appears either a Xin / Geng Metal element, but without the Si (Snake) EB, apart from Annual Pillar passing by?

    For my future reference what should have and would have happened.

    Thank you!
    In my opinion, combination and transformation always take place. Many believe otherwise. You will have to pay close attention to see which one is correct.

    When Si + You + Chou meets will give you lots of Metal. Is Metal favorable to your DM? Yes. What is Metal in relation to your DM? Relationship & Authority.

    Yi Geng = Geng denotes a union or a bonding. As Geng is favorable to you, I can say it's a good one. This formation is afraid of Fire(Horse) because it will likely break it apart. Xin refers to lover & 7K.

    @gentlejoker what if Si + You + Chou meets Fire LP? Will it still be effective? Or is that going to hurt my relationship, since Fire elements hurt my Metal.

    Why would Horse in particular hurts the Yi + Geng combination? Would the Ding Fire in Horse EB be strong enough to affect the combo? Or is it because Horse's main Qi is Fire, that's why it will hurt the Metal transformation?
    Yes, Fire will always counter the Metal.

    Yes, Horse is in the middle of summer and has the strongest fire.

    @gentlejoker

    Thanks for the explanation!

    So Fire elements do have a conflicting interest in my chart?
    On the one hand it helps to weaken my strong chart, but it also counters my favourable Metal element. Is that why you mentioned Fire is quite difficult to classify if its favourable or unfavourable to my chart?

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    Re: Self + Resource heavy chart meets Chang Shen LP = Death?
    « Reply #22 on: January 25, 2020, 01:16:18 AM »
    Hope the new year brings goodness to everyone...

    Based on https://fivearts.info/fivearts/index.php?topic=2086.0 :

    生地相逢,壯年不祿。(此言劫印重重,又行日主長生之地,主死。)
    When the Jie and the Direct Resource is abundant and prosperous, and one’s self is undergoing the luck of Chang Sheng to self, denote death.

    Can someone please give some insight into the following chart:

                DM                     LP   (At Chang Shen)
    DING   YI     JIA  GUI    WU
    CHOU YOU  YIN  HAI    WU

    Will something bad happen?
    What are the favourable elements for this chart?

    Thank you!

    You translate it wrong the encrypted massage Cupid.
    生地相逢,壯年不祿。(此言劫印重重,又行日主長生之地,主死。)

    The translation of that writting is:
    Year pillar exactly appear in current LP. (生地 Birth spot is Year pillar. Because people only ask you born in what year).
    In AP year that make DM strong, is not carry prosperity meaning.
    This referring to configuration inside AP year pillar consist with RW+Resources - a very strong AP year for DM.
    And the last requirement, DM Chang Sheng in their own Day pillar.
    Timing of DM dead.



    Note.
    Hmm it's a formula need for further investigation.
    If I found it correct consistently in 3 BaZi, I will post again.
    In a mean time anyone please help to investigate this formula too ya.

    Hi @Han

    Thanks for providing an alternate translation of the above formula. Hopefully it doesn't really mean what I initially thought it might be, cause it can be quite terrifying...

    On top of that initial translation, my ZWDS LP Health is under attack by lots of Hua Ji & Self Ji stars... That kinda made me think it might not be a good sign... Hopefully its not as bad as what I think!

    Cheers!

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    Re: Self + Resource heavy chart meets Chang Shen LP = Death?
    « Reply #23 on: January 25, 2020, 01:26:37 AM »
    Happy Chinese New Year to everyone who celebrates!
    May the coming new year bring prosperity, health and happiness to everyone...

    Warm wishes.
    Thanks for all the feedback at the meantime.

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    « Reply #24 on: January 25, 2020, 10:19:35 PM »
    I don't know anything about ZWDS, so no comment there.

    Chou is Metal tomb. So the You + Chou won't change anything. When Si(Snake) shows up in the LP, it will combine with Chou & You to form a metal frame. There are schools out there saying that there must be Metal in the month branch or in the LP for it to transform. I disagree with that concept. The best way to confirm that is for you to not listen to me or anyone. Observe when that happens in your life and see which one is correct. No one knows your life better than yourself.   

    @gentlejoker No worries about the ZWDS part, I hope someone in that department could give me answers eventually.

    What should have happened if Si + You + Chou did combine together, but there wasn't any Metal elements in the HS?

    And what would happen if LP's HS eventually appears either a Xin / Geng Metal element, but without the Si (Snake) EB, apart from Annual Pillar passing by?

    For my future reference what should have and would have happened.

    Thank you!
    In my opinion, combination and transformation always take place. Many believe otherwise. You will have to pay close attention to see which one is correct.

    When Si + You + Chou meets will give you lots of Metal. Is Metal favorable to your DM? Yes. What is Metal in relation to your DM? Relationship & Authority.

    Yi Geng = Geng denotes a union or a bonding. As Geng is favorable to you, I can say it's a good one. This formation is afraid of Fire(Horse) because it will likely break it apart. Xin refers to lover & 7K.

    @gentlejoker what if Si + You + Chou meets Fire LP? Will it still be effective? Or is that going to hurt my relationship, since Fire elements hurt my Metal.

    Why would Horse in particular hurts the Yi + Geng combination? Would the Ding Fire in Horse EB be strong enough to affect the combo? Or is it because Horse's main Qi is Fire, that's why it will hurt the Metal transformation?
    Yes, Fire will always counter the Metal.

    Yes, Horse is in the middle of summer and has the strongest fire.

    @gentlejoker

    Thanks for the explanation!

    So Fire elements do have a conflicting interest in my chart?
    On the one hand it helps to weaken my strong chart, but it also counters my favourable Metal element. Is that why you mentioned Fire is quite difficult to classify if its favourable or unfavourable to my chart?
    When you reach that situation, handle it in a balanced way.

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    « Reply #25 on: January 26, 2020, 04:07:49 AM »
    Your resource are bad in your case hai yin,insicate that you move at least 1 time s in a new town
    But look at this
    Bing gui ren ding
    Chen si  zi mao
    Thought my chart is weak!wu shen lp plus ji hai is good!I loose everything due to a clash with w rich father.hope shen zi chen will help me!zi will nulllified hai year.

    In your case you will meet u half in 2021.your chart is very good with power and money in host position hour and day

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    « Reply #26 on: January 26, 2020, 04:10:22 AM »
    Your health is ok!with strong resorce=strong health.you are proctted by gui and ding.if you see 7k...your chart will like!

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    Re: Self + Resource heavy chart meets Chang Shen LP = Death?
    « Reply #27 on: January 26, 2020, 04:51:52 PM »
    I don't know anything about ZWDS, so no comment there.

    Chou is Metal tomb. So the You + Chou won't change anything. When Si(Snake) shows up in the LP, it will combine with Chou & You to form a metal frame. There are schools out there saying that there must be Metal in the month branch or in the LP for it to transform. I disagree with that concept. The best way to confirm that is for you to not listen to me or anyone. Observe when that happens in your life and see which one is correct. No one knows your life better than yourself.   

    @gentlejoker No worries about the ZWDS part, I hope someone in that department could give me answers eventually.

    What should have happened if Si + You + Chou did combine together, but there wasn't any Metal elements in the HS?

    And what would happen if LP's HS eventually appears either a Xin / Geng Metal element, but without the Si (Snake) EB, apart from Annual Pillar passing by?

    For my future reference what should have and would have happened.

    Thank you!
    In my opinion, combination and transformation always take place. Many believe otherwise. You will have to pay close attention to see which one is correct.

    When Si + You + Chou meets will give you lots of Metal. Is Metal favorable to your DM? Yes. What is Metal in relation to your DM? Relationship & Authority.

    Yi Geng = Geng denotes a union or a bonding. As Geng is favorable to you, I can say it's a good one. This formation is afraid of Fire(Horse) because it will likely break it apart. Xin refers to lover & 7K.

    @gentlejoker what if Si + You + Chou meets Fire LP? Will it still be effective? Or is that going to hurt my relationship, since Fire elements hurt my Metal.

    Why would Horse in particular hurts the Yi + Geng combination? Would the Ding Fire in Horse EB be strong enough to affect the combo? Or is it because Horse's main Qi is Fire, that's why it will hurt the Metal transformation?
    Yes, Fire will always counter the Metal.

    Yes, Horse is in the middle of summer and has the strongest fire.

    @gentlejoker

    Thanks for the explanation!

    So Fire elements do have a conflicting interest in my chart?
    On the one hand it helps to weaken my strong chart, but it also counters my favourable Metal element. Is that why you mentioned Fire is quite difficult to classify if its favourable or unfavourable to my chart?
    When you reach that situation, handle it in a balanced way.

    @gentlejoker  thanks for the advice! Will sure do!

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    Re: Self + Resource heavy chart meets Chang Shen LP = Death?
    « Reply #29 on: January 26, 2020, 05:18:17 PM »
    Your health is ok!with strong resorce=strong health.you are proctted by gui and ding.if you see 7k...your chart will like!

    Hi @nin99

    If strong resource = strong health, what would the unfavourable aspects of having too strong Resource elements have to my overall chart?
    How can Gui + Ding protect me? Woudn't both HS clash each other, apart from having Jia + Yi (Wood elements) standing in between them?
    Can you please explain to me how you come up with the conclusion that my chart will like 7K (Xin)?
    I'd come to understand that Metal elements are favourable to me, from gentlejoker's explanation, but could you please explain a bit more how you come up with the conclusion?

    Thank you.

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