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  • Hi Sifus,

    I would like some help in reading my bazi.

    As I started only learning Bazi a few months ago, there are so much information that is overwhelming. Hope to get some help here to read my bazi further, so I can learn from your point of views.  :)

    My natal chart forms two partial punishments that were / are activated by Luck Pillar (or Annual Pillar).  :'( I guess karma... :-[  Hmm, there is also a (XU-WEI) destruction in my natal chart.

    With the current luck pillar, it has formed a Bullying Punishment (CHOU XU WEI) as well as a clash to my spouse palace (CHOU-WEI). I can see all my LP has a lot of harm or clash too...  :(  :(

    Brief life history:
    In current luck pillar, I have made a huge change in profession from a 9-5 job to business (not successful yet), had health issue diagnosed, arguments with spouse (still does though this year had some breakthrough), problematic friends that are unnecessary and also cut ties with some of them, sprained ankle… and 2019 especially was a very bad year for me with too much ‘drama / chaos' :'( . I also feel like during this luck pillar, I chose solitary at home and not wanting to socialise much (peaceful). Anyways, no matter how bad my obstacles are, I always find there is somehow someone is lending a helping hand (not entirely sure… just an intuition).


    Question:
    1.   How bad is the punishment and clash? Does the clash activated as well when the punishment is activated?
    2.   Are both our charts compatible? I always feel we are opposite of each other hence the differences in expectation or actions.
    3.   I’m trying to run a business but can’t seem to get it going better. What are the obstructions?


    Mine: 20:20 22 May 1980
    His: 03:00 16 June 1974


    Please, any input is very much appreaciated.

    Thank you in advance.
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    Re: How bad is the punishment and clash? Pls help me to decode my bazi
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    « Reply #2 on: March 17, 2020, 11:30:56 AM »

    The obstruction is the Xu Chou Wei punishment formed by the luck pillar on weak dm. Chart dislikes 2 of the punishment to form the full punish. Normally is better to stay put and not take risks.

    Yes I am aware of those, thank you!
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  • Re: How bad is the punishment and clash? Pls help me to decode my bazi
    « Reply #3 on: March 18, 2020, 05:40:26 AM »
    Anyone?  :)
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  • Re: How bad is the punishment and clash? Pls help me to decode my bazi
    « Reply #5 on: March 18, 2020, 02:29:27 PM »

    @chewak , your chart is either extreme weak chart or normal weak chart.
    Were 2010 and 2011 mostly positive or negative? Do you recall anything major during those years?

    I agree, I am a weak day master (bazi-calculator somehow stating I am extreme weak chart ).

    2010 is where we registered for our marriage and had our wedding ceremony on 2011. I guess that would be the major events that had happened, positively. Other than that, the only negative things I've experienced are petty people at work where I went through a few 'bad experiences' however, I always felt that it turns out ok because there a quite a few that will help me out. But the petty people were very emotionally draining for me, hence the change of work job (2013).

    I realised 2010 is TIGER which is also formed the ungrateful punishment in the year + luck pillar.
    Hmm, interestingly 2009 was an OX year where it formed the bullying punishment. But this year was a major event for me too as I've migrated to Australia and found myself a new job, so I'll say positive.

    May I know what did you read from these two years that you've asked please?

    Many thanks!
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  • Re: How bad is the punishment and clash? Pls help me to decode my bazi
    « Reply #7 on: March 19, 2020, 02:27:59 PM »
    Your chart badly need Wood. That's why I was asking about the two Wood years (2010 and 2011).

    Punishment and Clash are not always bad. Combination is not always good. Depends on the chart.

    Just wondering what about water element? I read being weak wood day master, wood and water are consider good elements for me. Would more water means not too good for wood (floating wood, dampen the wood)? Hmm, I do have less water element.


    The Chou-Wei clash is not bad for you. It releases the Wood storage, which is beneficial for you, inside Wei.

    The Chou-Wei-Xu punishment is bad. It makes you not getting along with other people. You feel other people misunderstand you and treat you poorly. Other people do misunderstand you sometimes.

    Geng Zi year breaks that full punishment, so this year your relationship with people should be a little bit better.


    Ah, would the chou-wei clash shakes out the wealth storage? Something that I have read but yet to dwell further. I'll do more research on this.

    As for the chou-wei-xu punishment, I believe so too. I find friends kept misunderstanding me and in fact even my own spouse. I have to be more patience in this current pillar and make time to do a lot of explaining, but yet, many times the explanation is to no avail as it won't fit any purpose but further misunderstanding. At times like this, I find silence is gold. But patience is very challenging.

    Yes you are right, strangely this year Geng - Zi started out with better outcome from friends. Somehow 'people' are less intense for/towards me. Is it thanks to water element?

    May I ask, what about last year Ji Hai? Both years seems to have water elements, but I feel last year was pretty chaos for me.


    Personality wise, Yi Wei woman and Wu Zi man don't get along. It requires patience and better communication for this to work.

    Is your husband's birth hour definitely Jia Yin? Because the hour is borderline, and also was there Daylight sSavings at the time he was born?

    If his hour is Jia Yin, he's beneficial for you, because your chart badly need Wood. Even you don't get along, his presence is still favourable to you. Think of it like swallowing a bitter medicine. Taste bad, but good for you. He can help you with your business.

    If his hour is Gui Chou, he's less beneficial for you, because his Wood is not as strong as Jia Yin hour.

    How is his temper? If his temper is normal, it's likely to be Gui Chou hour. If his temper is bad, it's likely to be Jia Yin hour.

    Before this marriage, did he have a divorce before? or a break-up with a living-together girlfriend before?


    Yes, the trying moments are patience and communication between us. However, being WU ZI he choose to keep it in, then allow the issues to fester and lack the motivation for any communication. Always, I am the one that initiates it.

    If I use the Location Malaysia (via bazi-calculator), then hubby's Hour is GUI CHOU. Are you recommending this HOUR should be used instead?

    In terms of temper, it is very hard to deduce  :( because he seems to have short temper that burst every now and then, but never really towards me even if I may be the cause of it. Hmm, his temper can be scary at times but very short. But generally, he is ok and happy go lucky. So, I feel like it's borderline?

    Before marriage, he has one ex before me that they lived in together. In fact, I think the ex before latest one was the same too. So yes, they lived in together and he was never married. May I find out why the question? I would like to know which area did you see that brings the question.  :)


    Thanks so much for your time.  :) Apologies in advance for all the questions. Just intrigue to understand how you deduce your readings.





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    « Reply #9 on: March 21, 2020, 08:35:02 PM »


    The Zi broke the Chou-Wei-Xu punishment. Still has Wei-Xu, but without the Chou, the effect is lessened.

    Last year, the Hai combined with Wei, but clashed with Si in your Month Pillar (work pillar). More hostile work environment. Your output was clashed. The more you said something, the worse it got.
     

    Now that make sense. There were too much info from me to create more misunderstanding. I should have known.

    One more thing, I noticed there is ZI - WEI HARM. Any thoughts over this?  :)


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    I'm recommending local time (where was he born?) but without daylight savings or government adjustment time. For example: some countries in Northern Hemisphere has daylight savings in June. Some countries have government adjusted time. 

    If local time, he will be GUI CHOU. He is born in Malaysia. When you say not beneficial, would you mind to elaborate by example? Do you mean his chart will be controlling or contributing more problems or the other way around?

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    He has a clash in his Spouse Palace. 

    This is very interesting that you've point this. I have the XU-WEI destruction in my chart while his is the ZI-WU clash. I know there is a clash in his, but I wasn't sure if my own bazi is contributing more issues or his (of course both contributes to each other, however more so who's having the 'weight' on it).

    I understand there is some hierarchy to the clash, combo, punishment etc... Is it true Clash is highest? Not sure if I am making sense. I am trying to understand who's chart may have been contributing more intensity towards our marraige in hope that I can unravel it. Also, this will allow me to be more understanding to our destined charts too.

    Many thanks again @rainmaster ! Appreciate your input and time  :)



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    « Reply #11 on: March 24, 2020, 12:33:42 PM »

    You're still feeling irritated by your Spouse. You feel a lot of efforts aren't working. The feeling of efforts being sabotaged.
     

     ;D, yes that sentence explains my situation pretty much very well. Even when the sabotaged was actually unknowingly + unintentional.


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    Your chart needs Wood. If his hour was Jia Yin, he would've had so much Wood that you need.
    Gui Chou hour will make him very capable at work, but try to control his wife.
    Do you feel he's trying to control you?

    Yes, he is very capable at work.

    In terms of controlling, he has some sort of minor OCD and therefore unknowingly he can be controlling. So, to put him in one sentence, I would say he is dominating with mild controlling, but yet soft-hearted by nature. But I am thinking being Yi I am very accomodating therefore it is ok, however having a strong Output may puts him off/back as I don't like being controlled.

    I had a look through all my closer friends and realised not anyone has a lot of WOOD in their charts. Interestingly, I have more of DING in the day master friends (with peach blossom animals in any pillar). I am wondering if I compliment their chart, therefore they find me comforting.

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    If his hour is Gui Chou, aside from the Zi-Wu clash, he has Zi-Chou combine as well.
    Was the reason he split with ex-girlfriends because of third party?

    Hmm, I can't remember well the latest one (one before me), but I know the one before the latest ex was due to third party. I can't remember if he actually shared much about his latest ex.

    May I know what combo or clash (from his?) resulted the third party question please?

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    Clash is very direct, very front-on. People openly confront you or take direct actions against you.
    Punishment is less direct. People misunderstand you and do something that cause problems for you.
    Harm is also less direct. People knowingly or unknowingly sabotage your efforts.

    Which one is worst? Depends on the person.

    Some people are more afraid of clash, because they are scared of direct front-on confrontation.
    Some people are more afraid of punishment or harm, because harder to detect and more long-lasting.


    Well, this somehow sum up my cycle  ;D
    I clash with him (assuming hubby's bazi has that clash).
    People misunderstand me. [maybe I make them misunderstood  ::) ]
    People unknowingly sabotage my effort + all my efforts are in vain because it is misunderstood.

    Thanks for 'peeling my onions' together @rainmaster  :D If I have more queries, hope you don't mind me asking!

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