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  • Re: Need help with birth chart reading
    « Reply #15 on: May 10, 2020, 12:58:42 AM »
    Hi,

    Hoping some Sifus can help in my brother’s birth chart reading ( either Bz or ZWDS) with regards to wealth and career especially next ten years. His DOB: 27/8/1983 13:59. Born in KL but based in Singapore. He’s a surgeon thinking of going into private practice after COVID 19 situation improves. Appreciate your help. Thanks.
    Your brother can start his business smoothly. Don't worry about that.

    Does he planed to have a child? Next year he has an opportunity to have a son.

    Hi Divinerchan, can I ask how u interpret to arrive at the conclusion so can get to learn? Is it because his chart has a lot of 7k and DW?
    Yes. I happy to share my opinion. But limited to my English, I afraid that I can't fully explain what I think.

    First of all, you are right. This Bazi 7k is strong (but not "a lot", it has a little bit difference), and wealth in whole piller on month to produce 7k. 7k is becomes more strong. It is the problem in this Bazi. That say its DM is weak.

    But it has other factors to remedied.

    First, what the solving way with 7K is Zhèng Yìn and Pian Yin, right? In this Bazi, Yin stars (wood) is enough to treat 7K. Second, LP has full of Word and Fire to help DM. That means the owner has a good education (Yin star) and can apply it in his career.

    Too many good factors in this Bazi.
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    « Reply #16 on: May 10, 2020, 01:28:49 AM »
    Hi,

    Hoping some Sifus can help in my brother’s birth chart reading ( either Bz or ZWDS) with regards to wealth and career especially next ten years. His DOB: 27/8/1983 13:59. Born in KL but based in Singapore. He’s a surgeon thinking of going into private practice after COVID 19 situation improves. Appreciate your help. Thanks.
    Your brother can start his business smoothly. Don't worry about that.

    Does he planed to have a child? Next year he has an opportunity to have a son.

    Hi Divinerchan, can I ask how u interpret to arrive at the conclusion so can get to learn? Is it because his chart has a lot of 7k and DW?
    Yes. I happy to share my opinion. But limited to my English, I afraid that I can't fully explain what I think.

    First of all, you are right. This Bazi 7k is strong (but not "a lot", it has a little bit difference), and wealth in whole piller on month to produce 7k. 7k is becomes more strong. It is the problem in this Bazi. That say its DM is weak.

    But it has other factors to remedied.

    First, what the solving way with 7K is Zhèng Yìn and Pian Yin, right? In this Bazi, Yin stars (wood) is enough to treat 7K. Second, LP has full of Word and Fire to help DM. That means the owner has a good education (Yin star) and can apply it in his career.

    Too many good factors in this Bazi.

    Thank you DivinerChan.

    Mandarin is fine too. I can still read a bit. Just don't know how to type much.

    His birth bazi is Ding Wei, Ding Hai, Geng Shen and Gui Hai right? So that is 3 7k, 2 DW, 1 EG and 1 Friend?

    Q1.
    When you say the owner has a good education, that is by looking at the hidden stems under the Wei and the Hai branches? Because I dont see them in the main stem and branches.

    In the main stem and branches, the metal (Geng and Shen) which is 财 is good for his 7k because 财 gives rise to 官 right?

    But does the Hai under the day pillar weaken the day master alot? Because metal (shen) enhances water (hai) which sits below DM which is Ding? Or Because the Wei (earth) weakens the Hai (water) so DM is safe?

    Q2
    I am trying to understand the LP wood.
    His LP is Bing Chen (Fire and Earth)? OR also considering the Yi in the hidden stem as the wood?

     

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    « Reply #17 on: May 10, 2020, 02:38:31 AM »
    Hi,

    Hoping some Sifus can help in my brother’s birth chart reading ( either Bz or ZWDS) with regards to wealth and career especially next ten years. His DOB: 27/8/1983 13:59. Born in KL but based in Singapore. He’s a surgeon thinking of going into private practice after COVID 19 situation improves. Appreciate your help. Thanks.
    Your brother can start his business smoothly. Don't worry about that.

    Does he planed to have a child? Next year he has an opportunity to have a son.

    Hi Divinerchan, can I ask how u interpret to arrive at the conclusion so can get to learn? Is it because his chart has a lot of 7k and DW?
    Yes. I happy to share my opinion. But limited to my English, I afraid that I can't fully explain what I think.

    First of all, you are right. This Bazi 7k is strong (but not "a lot", it has a little bit difference), and wealth in whole piller on month to produce 7k. 7k is becomes more strong. It is the problem in this Bazi. That say its DM is weak.

    But it has other factors to remedied.

    First, what the solving way with 7K is Zhèng Yìn and Pian Yin, right? In this Bazi, Yin stars (wood) is enough to treat 7K. Second, LP has full of Word and Fire to help DM. That means the owner has a good education (Yin star) and can apply it in his career.

    Too many good factors in this Bazi.

    Thank you DivinerChan.

    Mandarin is fine too. I can still read a bit. Just don't know how to type much.

    His birth bazi is Ding Wei, Ding Hai, Geng Shen and Gui Hai right? So that is 3 7k, 2 DW, 1 EG and 1 Friend?

    Q1.
    When you say the owner has a good education, that is by looking at the hidden stems under the Wei and the Hai branches? Because I dont see them in the main stem and branches.

    In the main stem and branches, the metal (Geng and Shen) which is 财 is good for his 7k because 财 gives rise to 官 right?

    But does the Hai under the day pillar weaken the day master alot? Because metal (shen) enhances water (hai) which sits below DM which is Ding? Or Because the Wei (earth) weakens the Hai (water) so DM is safe?

    Q2
    I am trying to understand the LP wood.
    His LP is Bing Chen (Fire and Earth)? OR also considering the Yi in the hidden stem as the wood?
    >His birth bazi is Ding Wei, Ding Hai, Geng Shen and Gui Hai right? So that is 3 7k, 2 DW, 1 EG and 1 Friend?
    Sorry I don't know it very well about "DW" & "EG". What does it means?

    >When you say the owner has a good education, that is by looking at the hidden stems under the Wei and the Hai branches? Because I dont see them in the main stem and branches.
    It is not easy to say it clear. I may say you are right. Wood is hided under Wei and Hai branches. But actually Hidden Stem is used for combine(合), arch(拱) in many cases. For Arch usage under this Bazi, it has a hidden Mǎo between Wei and Hai, see? That means it has a hidden triple combination for Wood (三合木局) inside this Bazi.

    >In the main stem and branches, the metal (Geng and Shen) which is 财 is good for his 7k because 财 gives rise to 官 right?
    Yes.

    >But does the Hai under the day pillar weaken the day master alot? Because metal (shen) enhances water (hai) which sits below DM which is Ding? Or Because the Wei (earth) weakens the Hai (water) so DM is safe?

    No. Don't apply so complicated calculation between Stems and Branches. Such these oddly processes is just for fill up gaps for some wrong theory. For this question, three things I want to point out:
    1. Ding is not quite scare in weakness. Impact is small. Once it has a little bit Wood, Ding can be easy to recover. This is that the Classic Book said "丁火柔中, 內性昭融, 旺而不烈, 衰而不窮....".
    2. Hai doesn't hurt Ding to much, except that Hai is on Month Branch. Because Hidden stem water Ren is not 7K but Zheng Guan. Guan for DM is a conflict with care, it is not hard attack as 7K. Thank about the meaning in combination of Ding & Ren (丁壬合).
    3. It has Jia stem hided in Hai, it can mediate between Water and Fire. For this Hai of day branch, its hidden stem Jia is stronger than Ren. So that Jia is do mediation very well for Ding and let it safe.

    >His LP is Bing Chen (Fire and Earth)? OR also considering the Yi in the hidden stem as the wood?
    Now his LP is under Bing Fire. Of cause it is lucky period for him. And Chen will get better on top of Bing.
    « Last Edit: May 10, 2020, 02:44:53 AM by divinerchan »
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    « Reply #18 on: May 10, 2020, 09:17:59 AM »
    >His birth bazi is Ding Wei, Ding Hai, Geng Shen and Gui Hai right? So that is 3 7k, 2 DW, 1 EG and 1 Friend?
    Sorry I don't know it very well about "DW" & "EG". What does it means?


    DW meaning Direct wealth / Zhen Cai
    EG meaning Eating God or Shi Shen

    >When you say the owner has a good education, that is by looking at the hidden stems under the Wei and the Hai branches? Because I dont see them in the main stem and branches.
    It is not easy to say it clear. I may say you are right. Wood is hided under Wei and Hai branches. But actually Hidden Stem is used for combine(合), arch(拱) in many cases. For Arch usage under this Bazi, it has a hidden Mǎo between Wei and Hai, see? That means it has a hidden triple combination for Wood (三合木局) inside this Bazi.


    Qn: You are referring to the 亥卯未合木局 combination? I see 亥and未 but I don't see 卯? So even as long as 2 characters in a 三合 is present, will still be usable, just not as strong?


    >But does the Hai under the day pillar weaken the day master alot? Because metal (shen) enhances water (hai) which sits below DM which is Ding? Or Because the Wei (earth) weakens the Hai (water) so DM is safe?

    No. Don't apply so complicated calculation between Stems and Branches. Such these oddly processes is just for fill up gaps for some wrong theory. For this question, three things I want to point out:
    1. Ding is not quite scare in weakness. Impact is small. Once it has a little bit Wood, Ding can be easy to recover. This is that the Classic Book said "丁火柔中, 內性昭融, 旺而不烈, 衰而不窮....".


    Qn: Here Ding fire benefits from the Jia wood in the hidden stem (and the Geng in the hidden stem under Shen?)?

    2. Hai doesn't hurt Ding to much, except that Hai is on Month Branch. Because Hidden stem water Ren is not 7K but Zheng Guan. Guan for DM is a conflict with care, it is not hard attack as 7K. Thank about the meaning in combination of Ding & Ren (丁壬合).

    Qn: Why is Guan a conflict for DM? Water-Fire?
    And how come the hidden stem of the branch here is more important, ie why is Zheng Guan in the hidden stem more important than the 7k in the branch? Isn't hidden stem a sub component of the branch?

    3. It has Jia stem hided in Hai, it can mediate between Water and Fire. For this Hai of day branch, its hidden stem Jia is stronger than Ren. So that Jia is do mediation very well for Ding and let it safe.

    Got it. So Jia "Tong" and mediates

    >His LP is Bing Chen (Fire and Earth)? OR also considering the Yi in the hidden stem as the wood?
    Now his LP is under Bing Fire. Of cause it is lucky period for him. And Chen will get better on top of Bing.

    Qn:
    Sorry this part i don't quite understand and forgive me for asking basic question:
    Bing Fire is good for his chart because it adds to the Ding fire his DM?
    Why Chen get better on top of Bing? Because Fire give birth to Earth?

     

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    « Reply #19 on: May 10, 2020, 11:41:08 PM »
    >His birth bazi is Ding Wei, Ding Hai, Geng Shen and Gui Hai right? So that is 3 7k, 2 DW, 1 EG and 1 Friend?
    Sorry I don't know it very well about "DW" & "EG". What does it means?


    DW meaning Direct wealth / Zhen Cai
    EG meaning Eating God or Shi Shen

    >When you say the owner has a good education, that is by looking at the hidden stems under the Wei and the Hai branches? Because I dont see them in the main stem and branches.
    It is not easy to say it clear. I may say you are right. Wood is hided under Wei and Hai branches. But actually Hidden Stem is used for combine(合), arch(拱) in many cases. For Arch usage under this Bazi, it has a hidden Mǎo between Wei and Hai, see? That means it has a hidden triple combination for Wood (三合木局) inside this Bazi.


    Qn: You are referring to the 亥卯未合木局 combination? I see 亥and未 but I don't see 卯? So even as long as 2 characters in a 三合 is present, will still be usable, just not as strong?


    >But does the Hai under the day pillar weaken the day master alot? Because metal (shen) enhances water (hai) which sits below DM which is Ding? Or Because the Wei (earth) weakens the Hai (water) so DM is safe?

    No. Don't apply so complicated calculation between Stems and Branches. Such these oddly processes is just for fill up gaps for some wrong theory. For this question, three things I want to point out:
    1. Ding is not quite scare in weakness. Impact is small. Once it has a little bit Wood, Ding can be easy to recover. This is that the Classic Book said "丁火柔中, 內性昭融, 旺而不烈, 衰而不窮....".


    Qn: Here Ding fire benefits from the Jia wood in the hidden stem (and the Geng in the hidden stem under Shen?)?

    2. Hai doesn't hurt Ding to much, except that Hai is on Month Branch. Because Hidden stem water Ren is not 7K but Zheng Guan. Guan for DM is a conflict with care, it is not hard attack as 7K. Thank about the meaning in combination of Ding & Ren (丁壬合).

    Qn: Why is Guan a conflict for DM? Water-Fire?
    And how come the hidden stem of the branch here is more important, ie why is Zheng Guan in the hidden stem more important than the 7k in the branch? Isn't hidden stem a sub component of the branch?

    3. It has Jia stem hided in Hai, it can mediate between Water and Fire. For this Hai of day branch, its hidden stem Jia is stronger than Ren. So that Jia is do mediation very well for Ding and let it safe.

    Got it. So Jia "Tong" and mediates

    >His LP is Bing Chen (Fire and Earth)? OR also considering the Yi in the hidden stem as the wood?
    Now his LP is under Bing Fire. Of cause it is lucky period for him. And Chen will get better on top of Bing.

    Qn:
    Sorry this part i don't quite understand and forgive me for asking basic question:
    Bing Fire is good for his chart because it adds to the Ding fire his DM?
    Why Chen get better on top of Bing? Because Fire give birth to Earth?

    >Qn: You are referring to the 亥卯未合木局 combination? I see 亥and未 but I don't see 卯? So even as long as 2 characters in a 三合 is present, will still be usable, just not as strong?

    Yes. That so call Arch "拱". How strong does Arch formed? It is case by case. One of the important symtum is that, when two Branch are two adjacent pillers, it is quite strong. If two Branch has distance, Arch power will be reduced.

    >Qn: Here Ding fire benefits from the Jia wood in the hidden stem (and the Geng in the hidden stem under Shen?)?

    Sure. It is based on my experience.

    >Qn: Why is Guan a conflict for DM? Water-Fire?
    Sorry for my bad english. All I means that Guan(官星) is "剋而有情". So that Ren(壬) doesn't hurt DM(丁) too much.

    >And how come the hidden stem of the branch here is more important, ie why is Zheng Guan in the hidden stem more important than the 7k in the branch? Isn't hidden stem a sub component of the branch?
    Sorry I didn't means hidden stem more important than branch. And 7k doesn't in branch for this Bazi.

    >Bing Fire is good for his chart because it adds to the Ding fire his DM?
    yes.

    >Why Chen get better on top of Bing? Because Fire give birth to Earth?
    Because Wood is good for DM also. Trees need warm soil for growing, right?
    « Last Edit: May 10, 2020, 11:44:16 PM by divinerchan »
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    « Reply #20 on: May 11, 2020, 03:00:33 AM »
    >And how come the hidden stem of the branch here is more important, ie why is Zheng Guan in the hidden stem more important than the 7k in the branch? Isn't hidden stem a sub component of the branch?
    Sorry I didn't means hidden stem more important than branch. And 7k doesn't in branch for this Bazi.


    Ok, sorry for confusion. When i run the bazi through https://bazi-calculator.com/ - I thought HAI itself has an assigned 7k (Qi Sha) and then you have the three hidden stems (Wu, Jia, Ren) below this 7k


    >Why Chen get better on top of Bing? Because Fire give birth to Earth?
    Because Wood is good for DM also. Trees need warm soil for growing, right?


    Óh Ok so the Chen earth helps the Jia wood which warms up the fire more?

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    « Reply #21 on: May 11, 2020, 08:52:59 AM »
    >And how come the hidden stem of the branch here is more important, ie why is Zheng Guan in the hidden stem more important than the 7k in the branch? Isn't hidden stem a sub component of the branch?
    Sorry I didn't means hidden stem more important than branch. And 7k doesn't in branch for this Bazi.


    Ok, sorry for confusion. When i run the bazi through https://bazi-calculator.com/ - I thought HAI itself has an assigned 7k (Qi Sha) and then you have the three hidden stems (Wu, Jia, Ren) below this 7k


    >Why Chen get better on top of Bing? Because Fire give birth to Earth?
    Because Wood is good for DM also. Trees need warm soil for growing, right?


    Óh Ok so the Chen earth helps the Jia wood which warms up the fire more?

    >Óh Ok so the Chen earth helps the Jia wood which warms up the fire more?
    That depends. Chen doesn't always have an effect as warm soil. From this case, Chen is in LP, it fell in a trend from Southland to Eastland. So that it is seen as warm soil.

    And it doesn't mean that Chen not Arch to Shen, it has another meaning for the Bazi. One word can have many meanings in Bazi.
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