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  • [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « on: May 16, 2020, 12:27:54 PM »
    Dear All Shifu,


    If you could ever so kindly decode my zwds or bazi as I am deadly curious to know about my love life journey and  what my future husband will be like
    i have noticed that my zwds chart has an empty star in spouse palace, what is that mean?

    here's i attached my zwds and bazi chart

    Any potential masters-soon-to-be please go ahead to decode, highly appreciated ;D


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  • Re: [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « Reply #1 on: May 16, 2020, 01:45:33 PM »
    place of birth?

    empty palace meaning you have to take main stars from the opposite.

    your parents seems to be wealthy, at least above average...

    you have at least a brother..

    have you moved abroad yet? i would say u did

    correct me if am wrong

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  • Re: [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « Reply #2 on: May 16, 2020, 01:51:44 PM »
    place of birth?

    empty palace meaning you have to take main stars from the opposite.

    your parents seems to be wealthy, at least above average...

    you have at least a brother..

    have you moved abroad yet? i would say u did

    correct me if am wrong

    hey @flawlesflower i am happy you reach me
    i was born in Jakarta

    and the opposite palace is career palace? i know nothing about ZWDS and i am interested in it

    my parents were comfortable, my dad from quite noble family and my mom once had a good career
    but my mom already passed away last year

    yes correct i have 1 brother and 1 sister

    well i do not live in the same city with my family, never move abroad for living just for holiday

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  • Re: [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « Reply #3 on: May 17, 2020, 01:20:45 PM »
    yes you take main stars from career palace which is jumen tian ji.

    u have very good life.. love will come later but still very good chart



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  • Re: [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « Reply #4 on: May 17, 2020, 01:31:07 PM »
    yes you take main stars from career palace which is jumen tian ji.

    u have very good life.. love will come later but still very good chart

    Thanks @flawlesflower , according to http://zwdsastrology.blogspot.com/2011/09/tian-ji-in-spouse.html

    A woman having Tian Ji in Spouse can marry a man who has accomplishments relating to learning, science, academia. The older he is, the better.


    does it mean that i will marry someone much older than me?

    and by you mean later in life, is it after 30? in wester astrology i have saturn in my 7th house, so i know deep down that i will marry late but you know in asian society somehow late marriage consider bad for a woman




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  • Re: [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « Reply #5 on: May 17, 2020, 01:41:35 PM »
    not necessary older, but he has accomplished something, educated or i mean he has a good background...

    my guess is asian 30years old which is 2023 but it could be 29

    nowadays society women have more rights and freedom therefore career should come first... before in asian society women were just staying home and taking care of children but time is different now. ..

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  • Re: [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « Reply #6 on: May 17, 2020, 01:48:42 PM »
    yea you right @flawlesflower

    i should worry less about spouse and marriage stuff and focus on my career and accomplishment
    thank you for answering my curiousity, bless you

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  • Re: [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « Reply #7 on: May 18, 2020, 10:27:11 AM »
    let me read from bazi perspective, if the hour is correct

    Zi can be seen as spouse star as it combine with shen(spouse palace), this Zi is in hour pillar and above it is WU (output), looking from 3 sign we can say this person may be younger than you , also as bing and shen support the hour pillar (bing > wu) (Shen > Zi) we can see also that in marriage you may be help/support him, Also as you have a lot of output control and surround him, the relationship should be smooth  but mostly you were in control.

    this year you can get a relationship, btw i see your birth time is in borderline between days should be careful in chart correction
    « Last Edit: May 18, 2020, 10:31:50 AM by mellybau »
    Good and bad are concepts that humans decide, and these do not apply to non-human. This kind of thinking occurs when, for example, she decides not to intervene to prevent someone from their mistakes or endangerment, .since "everything is a matter of fate"

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  • Re: [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « Reply #8 on: May 18, 2020, 12:29:10 PM »
    let me read from bazi perspective, if the hour is correct

    Zi can be seen as spouse star as it combine with shen(spouse palace), this Zi is in hour pillar and above it is WU (output), looking from 3 sign we can say this person may be younger than you , also as bing and shen support the hour pillar (bing > wu) (Shen > Zi) we can see also that in marriage you may be help/support him, Also as you have a lot of output control and surround him, the relationship should be smooth  but mostly you were in control.

    this year you can get a relationship, btw i see your birth time is in borderline between days should be careful in chart correction

    hey @mellybau it is nice to e-meet you

    thanks for your perspective in bazi,

    "this year you can get a relationship"

    hopefully, tbh honest i am kind of tired of relationship and keep breaking my heart, but somehow i realize it is a journey to finally meet the one

    do you think my output control DO or 7k too much? so it could affect my relationship in a bad way?

    do you think my time of birth is in borderline?
    based on bazi calculator online, they said i was born in zi hour
    btw i ever have a master check my bazi quick and he gave my chart as i attached below, with my LP and he said i have a chance to have a relationship this year and i could marry in year 2023

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  • Re: [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « Reply #9 on: May 18, 2020, 02:19:37 PM »
    let me read from bazi perspective, if the hour is correct

    Zi can be seen as spouse star as it combine with shen(spouse palace), this Zi is in hour pillar and above it is WU (output), looking from 3 sign we can say this person may be younger than you , also as bing and shen support the hour pillar (bing > wu) (Shen > Zi) we can see also that in marriage you may be help/support him, Also as you have a lot of output control and surround him, the relationship should be smooth  but mostly you were in control.

    this year you can get a relationship, btw i see your birth time is in borderline between days should be careful in chart correction

    hey @mellybau it is nice to e-meet you

    thanks for your perspective in bazi,

    "this year you can get a relationship"

    hopefully, tbh honest i am kind of tired of relationship and keep breaking my heart, but somehow i realize it is a journey to finally meet the one

    do you think my output control DO or 7k too much? so it could affect my relationship in a bad way?

    do you think my time of birth is in borderline?
    based on bazi calculator online, they said i was born in zi hour
    btw i ever have a master check my bazi quick and he gave my chart as i attached below, with my LP and he said i have a chance to have a relationship this year and i could marry in year 2023

    not in a bad way, does give a bit pressure / control over the husband but other than that no negative or what so ever

    unfortunately , i dont have much knowledge about birth hour reading, if most master gave the chart is it possible they are the correct chart

    2023 is possible , year luck interact with decade luck to bring the event to happen
    Good and bad are concepts that humans decide, and these do not apply to non-human. This kind of thinking occurs when, for example, she decides not to intervene to prevent someone from their mistakes or endangerment, .since "everything is a matter of fate"

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  • Re: [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « Reply #10 on: May 18, 2020, 04:54:19 PM »
    well noted @mellybau

    thanks a lot!
    bless you

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  • Re: [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « Reply #11 on: May 20, 2020, 01:18:26 PM »
    I'm sorry for asking but is it possible to see zi wei dou shu without birth hour?

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  • Re: [ ZWDS/Bazi Help ] Empty spouse palace
    « Reply #12 on: May 20, 2020, 01:24:25 PM »
    i do not think it is possible
    or it is possible but will be less accurate?
    maybe @mellybau and @flawlesflower can help? :P

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    « Reply #13 on: May 20, 2020, 05:32:26 PM »
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    « Reply #14 on: May 20, 2020, 05:34:39 PM »
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